Time Trial Discussion

[P-Courty]

Well looking at everyone at DTG improving rapidly, it's a good job I'm working away this week and brought the PS4 with me to keep up with you all 😝

I do still need to do the VGT before that ends too, will probably be gold and run on that one.

Edit: pictures from the weekend run...

Spoiler

I was also very kindly gifted this from my daily workout 4-star ticket

I got an AMG in last weeks 4-star ticket too 🙂

 

[Todt]

So in my opinion the Aliens discovered a new galaxy with a new fossil energy better than oil !!! Aside from the incredible battle happening at Dragon Trail, I don't understand how it's possible that the level to reach gold at Lake Louise is so alienated ???

Maybe @half_sourly a mathematical answer ? In general I don't do so bad on the snow but here i find the level really high and fortunately it's only Europe !

 

[Metalgear9493]

So in my opinion the Aliens discovered a new galaxy with a new fossil energy better than oil !!! Aside from the incredible battle happening at Dragon Trail, I don't understand how it's possible that the level to reach gold at Lake Louise is so alienated ???


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Are they wall riding at Lake Louise by any chance? I am thinking of trying it out on my European account.

It certainly is an epic battle at Gardens, I'll let the 3 amigos battle it out though, I achieved my goal time there. I watched Adams lap, his T2 split was simply scary fast (xx.410)😳

 

[Todt]

It's crazy, Ebrahim won another hundredth by 1:47.730 ! maybe as you say there is a wall riding ! The first replay you can see is 1:37.403 and the record 1:36.778 there is a lot of difference you are probably right with wall riding !

 

[Talon16]

I just can't get motivated to do these TTs. The Genesis isn't a fun drive and the BMW one is a virtual carbon copy of the same TT we had back in February with the 190E (which felt like I was fighting the track/car the whole time). Fortunately I am no longer motivated by credits in the game so I'm hoping the next one is a little more up my alley. Good luck, all!

 

[half_sourly]

Maybe @half_sourly a mathematical answer ?

The previous one there had a similar low gold (0.96%). Very small group of people excel at snow, maybe because it's used so infrequently.

Are they wall riding at Lake Louise by any chance?

No. Look at a wall and lap is invalidated.

 

[Barareklam]

Are they wall riding at Lake Louise by any chance? I am thinking of trying it out on my European account.

It certainly is an epic battle at Gardens, I'll let the 3 amigos battle it out though, I achieved my goal time there. I watched Adams lap, his T2 split was simply scary fast (xx.410)😳

Nope, wall contact is deleting the lap, you can touch bollards.

 

[Pesselles]

....and the BMW one is a virtual carbon copy of the same TT we had back in February with the 190E (which felt like I was fighting the track/car the whole time)....

100% agree about the TT with the 190E we had here, same unpleasant experience/feeling to "fight" constantly with the car/the track.

My perception is lightly different than yours with the M3 which I feel it much more fun to drive (new physics?) than the Mercos.

 

[Todt]

The previous one there had a similar low gold (0.96%). Very small group of people excel at snow, maybe because it's used so infrequently.

But if few people excel it should be more accessible times in theory, or not ?

 

[Gorefast]

But if few people excel it should be more accessible times in theory, or not ?

Only one extraterrestrian or scandinavian participant is enough to put the shiny metal out of reach. It is still only 3% of the fastest time and not the Meridian or something like that... (I don't like math, I like driving.)

 

[Todt]

Only one extraterrestrian or scandinavian participant is enough to put the shiny metal out of reach. It is still only 3% of the fastest time and not the Meridian or something like that... (I don't like math, I like driving.)

Indeed you are right but I just told myself that a less used track there would be less experience on it !
But perhaps on Uranus or Neptune where it is very cold he only plays on Lake Louise.

 

[half_sourly]

But if few people excel it should be more accessible times in theory, or not ?

I've never metaphor I didn't like, so here is one. Consider tarmac TTs to be 100m sprints. We all train to be sprinters and sprint every week. About 10% of us on average end each race within 3% of the fastest sprinter.

Then along comes a curveball (who doesn't like a mix metaphor?) and the organisers decide this week we're doing hurdles. The vast majority of us can do the sprinting between hurdles just fine, so set decent times, but struggle with the technical part, the hurdles. Except for a handful of guys who have some hurdling experience; they streak ahead.

So they are much better than the vast majority of us, spreading the field at the front and leaving only 1% of us able to be within 3% of them.

 

[ZevZoq]

I don't know what any of you are talking about! What is this snow TT I keep hearing about???

 

[Barareklam]

I don't know what any of you are talking about! What is this snow TT I keep hearing about???

MICHELIN Alpin Challenge 2024 Time Trial Opening on Friday, 18 October! - Gran Turismo™ 7 - gran-turismo.com

The MICHELIN Alpin Challenge, a time trial event from Michelin, will get underway on Friday, 18 October.Returning for its second year, this year’s Michelin time trial will be a European-exclusive competition, open to participants from certain European countries/territories. The player who...

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Edit. * Ah sorry, remembered you said you were from Canada and could not see it

 

[ZevZoq]

MICHELIN Alpin Challenge 2024 Time Trial Opening on Friday, 18 October! - Gran Turismo™ 7 - gran-turismo.com

The MICHELIN Alpin Challenge, a time trial event from Michelin, will get underway on Friday, 18 October.Returning for its second year, this year’s Michelin time trial will be a European-exclusive competition, open to participants from certain European countries/territories. The player who...

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lol...I know. Hence the winky. But it's a TT that isn't available to everyone (including ME, a Canadian of all things who is about to be driving on snow for the next 6 months! ) so discussing it was off-loaded to the thread specifically related to it.

 

[Pesselles]

Hi guys (and Greek)

Lucky you, it's me again

Guess what?

Yesterday, I finished in 1:50.834 with my M3 Alpina at Dragon Trail.

Today, I was really motivated for performance. So, here we are:
1st improvement: 1:50.787
2nd improvement: 1:50.749
3rd improvement: 1:50.653

S1: 39.283 - I left more than 2 tenths here, mainly in the quadri-left-of-death
S2: 36.000 - My best S2 so far, thanks to a very good hairpin
S3: 35.370 - Still delicate chicane (and exit) but I'll keep on working on this point.

Almost 2 tenths gained on my previous PB and I feel I can (really) lower this score with patience and dedication.

Spoiler: for all except Jeje...

ATTACK!!!!

 

[JasonMcDonald]

1.50.390 🎮 Dragon Tail

Shaped another two tenths.
Still very inconsistent with last two sausages many times i just butcher them or took a fly in the air ..😂

 

[newmedia_dev]

I can't find anymore time so a 1.50 flat is me done.

I need exibit to come pimp my ride because the poor 316i just doesn't have it in her

 

[TheNormsk]

Are you sure you weren't on wet tires?

As no. My whole evening was off though, so it must have just been me...

 

[newmedia_dev]

I've never metaphor I didn't like, so here is one. Consider tarmac TTs to be 100m sprints. We all train to be sprinters and sprint every week. About 10% of us on average end each race within 3% of the fastest sprinter.

Then along comes a curveball (who doesn't like a mix metaphor?) and the organisers decide this week we're doing hurdles. The vast majority of us can do the sprinting between hurdles just fine, so set decent times, but struggle with the technical part, the hurdles. Except for a handful of guys who have some hurdling experience; they streak ahead.

So they are much better than the vast majority of us, spreading the field at the front and leaving only 1% of us able to be within 3% of them.

If ever mixed metaphors deserved using that was the best ever.

The other way to look at it is we have a lot of fast generalists, they adapt to the car probably know the tracks extremely well so can initially go very quick. Then there is the fast generalists that drive cars differently to us when they need to, they get the rub of the road/snow and it clicks, but because they were are will be fast generalists anyway they can just excel or see something we don't quicker and do it better.

 

[Ian JB]

Hi,

This current Time Trial at Dragon Trail in the BMW sums up my Time Trial experience perfectly!...

My average placing is around the 15,000 mark over the whole of the TT's. I have not competed in every one of them. My last 4 completed events have averaged around the 3,000 mark. "Progress indeed!" I hear you all declare. I am currently at around 2700. Chasing a variety of ghosts, I am, incrementally, learning the circuit...

Ghost 1 - Right on his tail through the first right hander and all over him on the 4 apex section. Under the bridge - fall back some. Hair pin - lose some more. The Chicane - close but no cigar. The last big right hander - Might as well have just gone home here! I cannot, for all my sins, get this right at all.

Ghost 2 - All over the place. Sliding, crashing, red lapping. The last big right hander - I am wayyy in front!

Now all I have to do is string a lap together, combining Ghost 1 and 2 and I will be at 1:49:999 which is all I want to achieve here.

Ohhh. I almost forgot... "Yeeting it"....

@Gomario JSP....

Following the discussion about stealing cars and being chased by drug dealers. I am returning the BMW you leant me. Most of the damage will "buff out" I am sure. I have left the keys in the pile of debris just to the left of the photo. No more Yeeting for me pal!!!


(Note - The driver of the vehicle escaped with minor injuries. NO other people were harmed. It actually is a BMW M3!)


Best regards to all here.

Ian.

 

[Famine]

It actually is a BMW M3!)

Looks like an i8...


Also, yes, for those discussing the Lake Louise event I did already say to do so in the dedicated thread so as not to ram this one full of posts when half the people in the thread can't even see the event.

 

[Dan_Tes]

Hi friends!

Quick update, tomorrow is a big day so a bit of racing cockpit ASMR before bed

Took the big Genesis VGT around StC and found some nice lines, my new PB lap got nerfed by stuffing up the two last corners; mainly because I got such a good run on the double left hander. I think that cost me a good three tenths of a second but looking at the leaderboard that improvement won’t make me many places so I might just leave it there. Looking forward to jumping back into the unrealistic-but-fun M3 tomorrow maybe 😊

Until then, adios amigos!

 

[Chris30]

Hi friends!

Quick update, tomorrow is a big day so a bit of racing cockpit ASMR before bed

Took the big Genesis VGT around StC and found some nice lines, my new PB lap got nerfed by stuffing up the two last corners; mainly because I got such a good run on the double left hander. I think that cost me a good three tenths of a second but looking at the leaderboard that improvement won’t make me many places so I might just leave it there. Looking forward to jumping back into the unrealistic-but-fun M3 tomorrow maybe 😊

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Until then, adios amigos!

Incredible time Dan, you know I'm gonna do some last minute grinding on this TT and see if I can get my time down in the 2'45.000's. I would like to reach silver if I can. My last lap was really good. I was alert and focused and was able to navigate all the turns and corners rather quickly. So I'm gonna have faith and not give up. You're making great progress,

 

[Dan_Tes]

Incredible time Dan, you know I'm gonna do some last minute grinding on this TT and see if I can get my time down in the 2'45.000's. I would like to reach silver if I can. My last lap was really good. I was alert and focused and was able to navigate all the turns and corners rather quickly. So I'm gonna have faith and not give up. You're making great progress,

You’ve got this Chris, keep us posted on your progress and good luck!

 

[skydragon49]

Hello there!

Tonight I got a tiny improvement on my PB with the lovely lovely M3. From 1:50:980 down to 1:50:976.

Not much, I know. However in this stint I had several S1 splits under the 39's and S2 splits under 1:15. Which makes me think I may still have another tenth left to be found.

Now.... If I'm able or not to pull it all together is something else entirely. 😅

 

[GT5 Level 41]

Managed to log a bronze lap on the VGT one. 421 people below me for the cut line. Curious to see if I stay above it. Thumbs hurt too much to keep trying it. I think I about pushed the throttle button through the controller on that backstretch.

 

[2cam16]

Gave St. Croix a try and what do you know, I actually eeked myself into Bronze. Hope it holds.
Gran Turismo® 7_20241022155152 by 2cam16, on Flickr
Circuit de Sainte-Croix - A_ (8) by 2cam16, on Flickr

 

[Dolph Drago]

I really didn't want to revisit St. Croissant, but I was wanting to at least get into the 2:39's. I had a couple of 40.1's but wasn't satisfied. Even more frustrating were the multiple, potential 39's that went to waste in the final sectors (I DESPISE the right-left after the bridge). But I finally achieved my goal quite easily when I didn't completely poop the bed. Still, could have been better. If you take my fast lap and the one prior, my optimal was 3 tenths faster. Oh, well. There's one day left and definitely still time to gain, but I'm not sure I'll go back there tomorrow or not.

 

[TheNormsk]

Not sure if I fell into an alternate universe or something but I utterly can’t drive this now. Before I got to 2:41.970 fairly easily and I was enjoying myself.

This time I could not even beat 2:53. 12 seconds slower!! Like wtf! This time the car want to under steer everywhere and I feel it has not get up and go.

Are you sure you weren't on wet tires?

No but I found the cause!

Tried again tonight and could not beat 1:52. Car felt like a dog. Then I tried bumper cam instead of VR and noticed something…..

First, the hybrid system was not working at all. The battery was stuck on full and was never discharging.

Second I noticed my brake registering around 0.6% all the time.

I went into controller set up and found my brake settings messed up. It had reset to a 5% to 15% range but worse was registering around 6% all the time. I reset it to 10-100% but it looks like I need to service my V2 pedals…

So what was happening to the car was that, there was a constant brake drag but more importantly, registering the brake caused the car to go into regen mode and so never used the battery to boost the car. That is why it was so slow in acceleration and why I was 10s off the lap pace and the ghost would just leave me in the dust.

Fixing that I then got gold again. Finally! 😀. The last 24 hours had been so frustrating, what with coming in last in sport races and being slow in QT and TTs. But finally redemption.

Now to fix my brakes.