Time Trial Discussion

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My initial laptime (from last weekend) was 1:43.4 - done with Ford GT Race Car, also tried the BRZ then, but I only managed to do the same time with it (almost).
Had a few days off console and today I tried the RSR, improved over a second to 1:42.2xx - it just fits my binary driving style (directional buttons and X/square). If I was to race a car I would always choose Subaru over Porsche, but it seems this TT favours the "on rails" style of the Porsche.

If I am to drop my time to gold territory I need to nail every corner nearly perfect and I think my time margin over gold time will be razor thin.
 
To blow off some steam from non-driving life, I hopped back into the Ford GT LM Spec II.

The Spec II can also get gold!

1:41.821

But it is slow in similar ways to the Mclaren 650S.

Great handling. The car goads you into attacking curbs. Turn in is very good, and you don't need to rely on the gearbox as much to get the car turned in.

However traction under full power is iffy and gearing hurts the Ford's potential, IMO. Second gear over-rotates the car and causes slides if you're too early / aggressive with the throttle. But 3rd gear is a bit tall - in slow corners, that gear makes the Ford want to take a nap. You can stay in 2nd and drive more traditionally, balancing steering and throttle. Otherwise you can get on the power then time your upshift to mitigate wheelspin. The timing to get this right feels much tighter than with the BRZ though.

There is push on full throttle through high speed turns, but as usual, it's not nearly as pronounced as the 911. Bonus: you can grab the curbs with near reckless abandon to get extra turn-in!

Be warned, the brakes are noticeably average.

Despite its slowness, I still adore this car.



Take that cones!!
 
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tmtk
My initial laptime (from last weekend) was 1:43.4 - done with Ford GT Race Car, also tried the BRZ then, but I only managed to do the same time with it (almost).
Had a few days off console and today I tried the RSR, improved over a second to 1:42.2xx - it just fits my binary driving style (directional buttons and X/square). If I was to race a car I would always choose Subaru over Porsche, but it seems this TT favours the "on rails" style of the Porsche.

If I am to drop my time to gold territory I need to nail every corner nearly perfect and I think my time margin over gold time will be razor thin.
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I am d-pad and box/X too and got my best time with the Subaru. Set the controller high, like 8. I turn off all assists except weak CSA, AT gears.

RSR i ran a 41.8, Subaru 41.6. These cars are polar opposites, the RSR turns in really well but understeers on exit, the roo turns in okish and slips just enough to be less understeery on exit. You have to trust the subaru on exit, get your foot flat, don't lift.

Neither car enjoys being asked too much of on entry, just hit the apex and power out. If you overdrive you lose time at this track, it's merciless.
 
Barareklam
OK session tonight. Shared my lap if someone is interested to see it. DualSense motion sensor steering. BRZ
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That is a great time especially with your set-up. I'm just curious how many attempts it took to get the time?

I can get silver within a couple of laps but gold times usually take me 70-90 laps with a wheel.
 
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D Quick
That is a great time especially with your set-up. I'm just curious how many attempts it took to get the time?

I can get silver within a couple of laps but gold times usually take me 70-90 laps with a wheel.
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I haven't counted laps but I think I got gold after 3 times one hour session. Then maybe it took 3 times an hour session again to lower that gold 0.300 then maybe three hours more to lower gold even more and maybe five sessions more, which last sessions might be half an hour to lower gold to 1:41:316
I was thinking about that myself, if I could work somehow on my mental focus, because we all know how it can go with life, so because of reasons some days I am not near my PB time, and yesterday, I got this time in third lap. ( But i did had two attempts yesterday before this one, I got penalty or something, and pressed retry)
EDIT* I should have mentioned that I was testing five ten different cars from the start, that time is included in all these sessions I mentioned
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I didn't save the lap unfortunately. If I get a similar time when I next try, I'll save and share.
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Messy turns 1-3 as interval 1 time shows (I've been under 30 sec), and slide in the last turn, but this is my best time to date.

I've showed bumper cam which I use as well as chase cam.

 
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Messy turns 1-3 as interval 1 time shows (I've been under 30 sec), and slide in the last turn, but this is my best time to date.

I've showed bumper cam which I use as well as chase cam.

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That was fast lap!. I see you are in general in higher gear compared to me. Maybe I can try and see if I can gain some time. You gained 0.500 in two last sectors compared to my time.
 
half_sourly
Messy turns 1-3 as interval 1 time shows (I've been under 30 sec), and slide in the last turn, but this is my best time to date.

I've showed bumper cam which I use as well as chase cam.

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Lovely clean lap! I kick myself for not being quick enough but looking at that lap I thought you’d be right up there with the WR.. just shows how much time these guys make somewhere

I’m back in the Crocadubaru, I’ve worked it out now but it’s still an odd car that doesn’t make sense to me and polar opposite to the RSR, driving them side by side is a terrible idea and you just end up going slowly in both. I couldn’t hook up a decent lap today (turn 7/8 doing me dirty) but a new PB and a belief that can make time up with this thing. Sector 1 is pretty much nailed down now but everything else is hit and miss. I might leave it for a bit as my mind is turned to mush but nice to feel a bit of optimism after days at a brick wall!


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The amount of track limit penalties at turn 7, jesus christ, man... :banghead:
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I feel your pain. I've become intimately aware of where all the penalty zones are, and I've picked up so many that I can now sense when one is coming. I just cut throttle, bury the urge to take a bite out of my controller and prepare for the next lap.

That high speed, blind right hander after the uphill chicane is a stupid corner.

You're forced to take a narrow line because the outside edge unsettles the car under braking / initial turn-in. Meanwhile, if you get too aggressive, the inside rumbles grab the car and cause a best-lap-destroying slide.

- Misjudge and run wide trying to salvage some exit speed? Penalty and next lap ruined.

- Go too deep inside because the rumbles grabbed the car and you jumped on the throttle to save it? Penalty and next lap ruined.

Stupid, stupid all-or-nothing corner.

Dan_Tes
Sometimes I’ve had penalties there where I haven’t even gone off the track!? Catalunya literally doesn’t like you existing and I have to say, I don’t like Catalunya existing either..
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Agreed. I'm in that weird mental place where I'm still running this event because solving the problem of going fast and figuring the cars out is vastly more entertaining than the flow of this (stupid, stupid) track.
 
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D Quick
Magic 8-ball. I have gold by 0.031. Will it hold?

I doubt it but at least I have something in the bank while I keep trying to improve.
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New time of 1:41.48. I think I'm safe now.

I finally got one good lap and improved all my sectors by a little.

Does anyone know if you start out on cold tires after you hit retry? I usually crossed the start line around 132mph on my first lap and 134ish on the second.

I hit retry a lot so the data point is pretty solid.

Using the Brz
 
I think I've hit my beyond frustrated point. Had the 1:41.372 on Monday. No gain on Tuesday. Small gain on Wednesday to 1:41.361. Couldn't get anything going on Thursday with just rubbish after rubbish lap. Decided to take Friday off. And today the best I can do is 1:41.367. My optimal is a 1:40.9xx.

It doesn't seem to matter the shifting strategy. My times all seem to be the same. It's just so difficult to hit every corner perfectly. I always leave time on the table somewhere, whether it's being too tentative or the opposite and getting a bit sideways. Then what feels like a perfect corner gets ruined by a penalty because my tires are evidently 1 millimeter over whatever boundary line PD has set for the track limits.

Unlike many others, I do enjoy the track. It feels like it flows much better without that horrid final chicane.
 
Dolph Drago
I think I've hit my beyond frustrated point. Had the 1:41.372 on Monday. No gain on Tuesday. Small gain on Wednesday to 1:41.361. Couldn't get anything going on Thursday with just rubbish after rubbish lap. Decided to take Friday off. And today the best I can do is 1:41.367. My optimal is a 1:40.9xx.

It doesn't seem to matter the shifting strategy. My times all seem to be the same. It's just so difficult to hit every corner perfectly. I always leave time on the table somewhere, whether it's being too tentative or the opposite and getting a bit sideways. Then what feels like a perfect corner gets ruined by a penalty because my tires are evidently 1 millimeter over whatever boundary line PD has set for the track limits.

Unlike many others, I do enjoy the track. It feels like it flows much better without that horrid final chicane.
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My lap was sheer luck. Like you, I usually choke somewhere, and am not able to string together the optimal lap. But on my lap I really felt like I pretty much nailed every corner the best I could. And surprisingly it didn't even take that long. I think I only spent somewhere between 1-2 hours total on this TT.
 
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Gave Barcelona no chicane a second go of 45 min. I still feel like I could improve, but getting from 1.41.912 to a 1.41.730 was good enough for now, very tough to string the perfect lap. I feel like despite the Huracan is tough to drive, it still does have potential on one lap, even with the default setup. 1.41.5's could be possible for me with a perfect lap.

Kind of weird two time trial sessions, doing like low 1.43's first 20 minutes or so and feeling clueless as to where the pace is. And then first lap you get to a low 1.42, then you start to get consistently to that type of lap, and quicker. My ghost helps me memorize some corners and apexes better I think 😁 Always been helpful in time trials and daily race quali.
 

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I am d-pad and box/X too and got my best time with the Subaru. Set the controller high, like 8. I turn off all assists except weak CSA, AT gears.

RSR i ran a 41.8, Subaru 41.6. These cars are polar opposites, the RSR turns in really well but understeers on exit, the roo turns in okish and slips just enough to be less understeery on exit. You have to trust the subaru on exit, get your foot flat, don't lift.

Neither car enjoys being asked too much of on entry, just hit the apex and power out. If you overdrive you lose time at this track, it's merciless.
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Thank you for this push!
I sat with Subaru again to work it out. First chasing my Porsche ghost, identyfing where I could gain time. I'm braking a fraction earlier with BRZ, but then when the car is in the right position on the track I can really floor it way, way earlier. One thing is knowing that and the other making it so.
But step by step I bettered my time, first by hundreths then I finally broke out into 41s, but yeah, razor thin - on the wrong side:
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Some problems still persist, can't always replicate fast running over kerbs at turns 2 and then 7/8 (the little switchbacks), sometimes when I go full gas the car slids off them loosing rear grip. Lifting there helps, but I loose speed and I did those places few times with full gas so it's possible, yet I still didn't learn how I did that.
Last two corners of my best lap I did too cautiously loosing there easily over a tenth.

Will continue to try until time permits.
 
NevilleNobody
This is the best TT so far. Two genuine options car wise, a technical track that demands you hit your lines but there's no Mikey mouse video game corner like the COD at seaside.
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Though I dislike the track, whatever adjustments PD made to BoP made this event super interesting. The BRZ is clearly the dominant force here, but most of, if not all, the cars can get gold.

Functionally, we're still running under the rule "it's a GR.3 time trial; everyone must drive the GT-R BRZ or 911," but the other cars actually don't feel hopelessly locked out of gold. They're all viable in their own way.

Well, maybe except the Mclaren F1... :lol:
 
tmtk
Thank you for this push!
I sat with Subaru again to work it out. First chasing my Porsche ghost, identyfing where I could gain time. I'm braking a fraction earlier with BRZ, but then when the car is in the right position on the track I can really floor it way, way earlier. One thing is knowing that and the other making it so.
But step by step I bettered my time, first by hundreths then I finally broke out into 41s, but yeah, razor thin - on the wrong side:
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Some problems still persist, can't always replicate fast running over kerbs at turns 2 and then 7/8 (the little switchbacks), sometimes when I go full gas the car slids off them loosing rear grip. Lifting there helps, but I loose speed and I did those places few times with full gas so it's possible, yet I still didn't learn how I did that.
Last two corners of my best lap I did too cautiously loosing there easily over a tenth.

Will continue to try until time permits.
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Bravo mon ami !!!!👏👏👏👏💪💪💪.
 
I was gonna say that I just don't have the time to get into the 40's, but i did spend 600km today trying to.....without succes 🤣
I think I'm giving up now, and take my 41.077 🤣, I see lots of room for improvement on this lap but then again, I saw that already before the 600km's today 🤣🤣, you won @Dan_Tes ......again..... 🤣🤣

Fastest lap in the 911 maby someone can use it,good luck guys!

 

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