Time Trial Discussion
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Despite the long weekend here in the US, I’m not getting as much track time as I’d hoped for, with a long list of jobs to do around the house.
Had a quick run yesterday at BH but to be honest my heart isn’t in it as I’m well into gold and sitting on a 1:40.890 at 1.84%. The track is fun but the car is a little too unwilling at times, and with the AM waiting it didn’t take me long to switch to the RBR - after 30 mins I was sitting just outside gold on a 1:18.9.
Fast forward to this morning and I had a couple of goes at the new Race B, but as is usual, it was mixed lobbies and unpredictable driving. After being dive bombed out of a podium on two successive races, I moved back to the RBR, and got down to a 1:18.466 and into gold.
Off to pull a tree stump out now but will be on track later!
Had a quick run yesterday at BH but to be honest my heart isn’t in it as I’m well into gold and sitting on a 1:40.890 at 1.84%. The track is fun but the car is a little too unwilling at times, and with the AM waiting it didn’t take me long to switch to the RBR - after 30 mins I was sitting just outside gold on a 1:18.9.
Fast forward to this morning and I had a couple of goes at the new Race B, but as is usual, it was mixed lobbies and unpredictable driving. After being dive bombed out of a podium on two successive races, I moved back to the RBR, and got down to a 1:18.466 and into gold.
Off to pull a tree stump out now but will be on track later!
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How does the penalty on the first corner of Red Bull ring work??
If I cut the corner exactly the same as the top drivers on the board I get hit with .500
If I cut the corner exactly the same as the top drivers on the board I get hit with .500
maybe you are out before on the left side...
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I was wondering the same thing. It's unbelievably inconsistent. I have run wide all four wheels in the red and don't get one and like you have maybe been a hair off the ghost line and get hit with one
GlockPants
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- GlockPants
Decent gains at the RBR today.
1.1 seconds over my time from yesterday and about 0.6 seconds to gold.
My biggest issue I seem to have with the Valkyrie is the braking distance. I'm having to brake about 25-50 meters before the aliens to get a good line on the first three turns.
1.1 seconds over my time from yesterday and about 0.6 seconds to gold.
My biggest issue I seem to have with the Valkyrie is the braking distance. I'm having to brake about 25-50 meters before the aliens to get a good line on the first three turns.
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- nope_not_here
Errgh ..might have to do the RBR again. But I just drove 500 miles (800 kms) in the last 3 days. Don't feel like driving more today....maybe tomorrow 
- 2,283
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- Espanjolicos
Lomic
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- Concarneau
- Lomic2
Done 12 laps around RBR and improved a bit. Best lap was 0.5s better than previous 1:20.7xx improvement in this session, but lost nearly everything in the last corner, ended up improving from 1:21.024 to 1:20:588 (optimal 1:19.632)
BH lap count : 12
RBR lap count : 36
BH lap count : 12
RBR lap count : 36
- 4,440
- Indiana
- DolphDrago
My first gain since day 1. Day ONE! I felt much more comfortable tonight though still somewhat disappointed because I left a lot of time on the table. My optimal lap was a 1:39.533. 
If I can string together enough good sectors over the next two days, I might...just might...dip into the 39's. @Gomario JSP's story is an inspiration. I want to do the same.
Sectors 2 and 4 were painful. How can Westfield Bend be so difficult? I feel like I either cut it too much and pick up a penalty or end up wide and scrub off speed in the gravel. Also, I've done so many laps around the track through the years and have yet to figure out Surtees.
If I can string together enough good sectors over the next two days, I might...just might...dip into the 39's. @Gomario JSP's story is an inspiration. I want to do the same.Sectors 2 and 4 were painful. How can Westfield Bend be so difficult? I feel like I either cut it too much and pick up a penalty or end up wide and scrub off speed in the gravel. Also, I've done so many laps around the track through the years and have yet to figure out Surtees.
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Nice to see aliens having fun taking turns in the lead at RBR , my .212 cushion slowly disappeared then today i find myself .043 out of the gold.
Managed a new PB today, 👽's go away!!
, my .212 cushion slowly disappeared then today i find myself .043 out of the gold.Managed a new PB today, 👽's go away!!
- 3,146
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- GTP_CarlosF
50 miles in the Aston Martin this evening. 0.11 found for a (slightly) larger buffer to the drop zone into silver. Still not feeling safe though. Will take another run in the morning before the family gets up
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- TPC_Raccooon23
- CRaccoon23
I did my one and only run with the Genesis at Brands Hatch today. Managed to beat the gold time in a few laps, but I wanted to keep going and this is what I ended up with after an hour. Glad that I don’t have to put anymore time into this because the Genesis isn’t exactly a joy to drive, even for a road car.
- 1,006
- United Kingdom
- theufc33
As expected, my 1:18.4 at RBR from early yesterday morning started slipping, so I went in for some more laps - struggled to get close, was consistently 2-4 tenths off, with one lap 1 tenth off.
Looked up some lap guides to see where I could make up some time - 4th gear out of turn 3 really helps quell the wheelspin. So far, my biggest gains lap time wise today, were:
Turn 1, not so hot in, and as the guide suggested, shift into 4th right away. That keeps wheelspin at bay. That, combined with accelerating as soon as possible out of the corner netted me a couple of tenths over how I previously approached it.
Turn 3, 4th gear on exit, probing the throttle as the car finishes turning, then stepping on it. Important to time when you use overtake, else the rear slippage will drive the revs up.
The infield section with the double left hander - going a little deeper on entry, but not holding the brake too long, so you get the rotation. Again into 4th as it opens up a little, where you can get on the throttle without going too wide.
Finally, the last corner. I’d been going too wide there all the time, but saw in the guide that the driver went in quite early - not unlike the lines F1 drivers take.
I found it a bit risky, but ultimately faster. Danger is, if you don’t commit enough, the car will just not turn enough after bouncing over the curb.
All that to say, after 90/120 mins of driving, I managed a 1:18.308! Gonna see how it holds over the next few days, hoping the aliens have found the majority of their gains, haha. This would be my first gold, so if need be, I’m gonna try and stay within reach. There’s still some time I feel I can find, just a case of stringing it all together.
If anyone is curious, here is the lap guide.
Looked up some lap guides to see where I could make up some time - 4th gear out of turn 3 really helps quell the wheelspin. So far, my biggest gains lap time wise today, were:
Turn 1, not so hot in, and as the guide suggested, shift into 4th right away. That keeps wheelspin at bay. That, combined with accelerating as soon as possible out of the corner netted me a couple of tenths over how I previously approached it.
Turn 3, 4th gear on exit, probing the throttle as the car finishes turning, then stepping on it. Important to time when you use overtake, else the rear slippage will drive the revs up.
The infield section with the double left hander - going a little deeper on entry, but not holding the brake too long, so you get the rotation. Again into 4th as it opens up a little, where you can get on the throttle without going too wide.
Finally, the last corner. I’d been going too wide there all the time, but saw in the guide that the driver went in quite early - not unlike the lines F1 drivers take.
I found it a bit risky, but ultimately faster. Danger is, if you don’t commit enough, the car will just not turn enough after bouncing over the curb.
All that to say, after 90/120 mins of driving, I managed a 1:18.308! Gonna see how it holds over the next few days, hoping the aliens have found the majority of their gains, haha. This would be my first gold, so if need be, I’m gonna try and stay within reach. There’s still some time I feel I can find, just a case of stringing it all together.
If anyone is curious, here is the lap guide.
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- Espanjolicos
My first gain since day 1. Day ONE! I felt much more comfortable tonight though still somewhat disappointed because I left a lot of time on the table. My optimal lap was a 1:39.533.
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Sectors 2 and 4 were painful. How can Westfield Bend be so difficult? I feel like I either cut it too much and pick up a penalty or end up wide and scrub off speed in the gravel. Also, I've done so many laps around the track through the years and have yet to figure out Surtees.
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Surtees is indeed a real weird one and the most weird thing about it is that i was faster coasting the car than trying to trailbrake ( wich i suck at
) my brain tells me to apex earlier and throttle out as a normal turn,What i did notice is if i stay very close to the left side my sector time is way quicker but my topspeed on the end of the straight is lower than when i let the car drive out a little earlier on Surtees, sounds logical ofcourse but tell the brain
, but that means that i had 35.9's on S2 on 40.1 laps but also 35.390 and 40.1 laps But the one thing that made me more consistent on the overal lap was going back to third before Westfield, i always stayed in 4th but the car is just more stable if i downshift there and you can realy make up for a bad S2 here
so only did restarts if S2 was below 35.9 For me Sheen is a real roulette, it's 5/10 plus i gained some real time on Stirling, after those gazillion miles i found out that if you cut it all the way you can be on the throttle before the apex.
But you are almost there, you are a way faster driver than me so i'm positive you will kick me to place 65
I didn't touch BH's this morning, tried RBR again but i struggle so much with it, still at a 18.2 and could not get in a clean lap with the furries hanging in all plants the whole morning....., to be continued ...
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This is what i dont get. How are the aliens braking that they can brake way later than us? 😩
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- ScottPuss20
- CheetahsMeow
I don't know how but I improved my time on the Red Bull Ring to a 1:18.139, which puts me well within the gold bracket. For the Brands Hatch time trial I did a 1:40.984. I think.
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- Espanjolicos
I'm very curious what everybody uses for the RBR, with or without TCS?
I still haven't figured it out
I still haven't figured it out
Nice one! Identical times for us both haha
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- IngRobNy
I'm always use TCS on 3 and I'm over a second behind gold, ca 3 tenths of a second into silver, I'm not sure I can improve if pushed out of current position, but I don't think TCS on 0 would be any help for me, my throttle is either off or full on my controller.I'm very curious what everybody uses for the RBR, with or without TCS?
I still haven't figured it out
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- theufc33
Without TCS here, but the Valkyrie is very lurchy in anything below 3rd. In fact, I’d avoid 1st and 2nd altogether for corner exits - except maybe the last corner, but even then, I’d recommend getting up into 4th as quick as possible. 4th works well to cull almost all wheelspin, and you can pin the overtake button pretty soon into the gear.I'm very curious what everybody uses for the RBR, with or without TCS?
I still haven't figured it out
A technique I saw from a video was to pulse the throttle on exit, just for maybe 3/4s of a second in total, just to get past the car’s initial want to spin up the rears if you use overtake right away, then floor it.
You can also tap overtake as you rise through the revs to feel when it’ll break loose, and when it’ll hold stable. But so far, the throttle pulse has generally done that job for me.
I don’t think TCS is a very limiting speed wise since there isn’t much wheelspin in 4th anyhow, and the car is fairly stable in third once you’re up the revs a bit.
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- half_sourly
Thank you to @tmtk for helping out with organising the consent and interest for his leader board idea. Here is what it would look like, using the previous TT. Let me have your feedback and if you wish to be added to future leader boards, let me know.
I will publish the GTP leader board along with my weekly results posts.
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- Todt
Great job, i would love to be part of it 🙏
THANKS
Thank you very much for your work! I like it so far and know who will get invited next... (BH looked great on paper but I don't like the car and can't get a decent lap.) Phantastic driving everyone!
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Haven'rt tried with TCS. I may switch it on in the quest for 1:17, but I don't like it as it slows me down. I think the car handles well with decent throttle control.I'm very curious what everybody uses for the RBR, with or without TCS?
I still haven't figured it out
While wheelspin is less of an issue for me, I'm having trouble finding the right line and could use more of the track. My lap times would also benefit from smoother braking and turning in.
@half_sourly thank you for taking the time. Unfortunately'I don't see myself on the list, albeit giving my consent. Maybe you could include me in the next update?
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