Time Trial Discussion

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I’m sweating bullets over here, hanging on to my $2 million ranking by the skin of my teeth.

I would appreciate it if no one else attempts this time trial. Ever.

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Tried the Porsche today and down to 53.506...... silver is looking possible, perhaps do-able!
Yeah I did best with the Porsche as well. Import ghosts if you haven’t already, they really help. Find one of the same car you are using and just do what they do.
 
I can see why the Supra is used by more people in the new TT; shaved around 3 tens off my 911 time.



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I switched to the Supra yesterday for 100km or so, and could almost match my RSR time, the hairpin is doable but difficult to exit right but banky boy is a nightmare with it compared to to RSR, I think that if I put some real time in it I could be faster with the Supra indeed 😁 I'll try 🤣

Your lap seems so steady, effordless and smooth .... seriously jaleouse 🤣🤣
 
I switched to the Supra yesterday for 100km or so, and could almost match my RSR time, the hairpin is doable but difficult to exit right but banky boy is a nightmare with it compared to to RSR, I think that if I put some real time in it I could be faster with the Supra indeed 😁 I'll try 🤣

Your lap seems so steady, effordless and smooth .... seriously jaleouse 🤣🤣
It's definitely a different driving experience; takes some time getting used to. You also need to be more careful on exit with the Supra. And entry is a bit more tricky too; it feels less eager to turn in. Actually overall you need to manhandle it more than the Porsche.
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Two cars I cannot really embrace :(

Do you mind to summarize what approach should a driver have with them compared to the nismo?
I've not driven the Nismo, but hopefully the above (and Djollie's post a few above) helps. 911 is easier and more forgiving; Supra is probably a bit quicker and if you drive that you can skip upper body day at the gym.
 
The new TT seems to be a tough one for me, with FR too much understeer and the MR cars have too much snap in the banked right hander 🤔 52.110 in the Lambo, but I know I could break 52 if the car would behave in the banked corner 😮‍💨 I will try I guess the more stable MR cars next (911, 650s, RCZ).
 


Here is my BB walkthrough. As you can see the first part keeps throwing me off, I try to gain speed on the far left and as I go further I try to get to the right side, but the car is not cooperating, it slides to the left causing me to either hit the wall under the bridge thing or i'll go offtrack to the far right.

The last right turn before the finish keeps messing me up too cause i'll either go too qucik and hit the wall or i'll brake early and lose time. So it's an enigma puzzle to figure out. Anybody got any ghosts or videos I can look at? I was in the silver range but apparently more people got better times which reduced the silver time even more so now I'm back in the bronze group, ugh!!
 
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Here is my BB walkthrough. As you can see the first part keeps throwing me off, I try to gain speed on the far left and as I go further I try to get to the right side, but the car is not cooperating, it slides to the left causing me to either hit the wall under the bridge thing or i'll go offtrack to the far right.

The last right turn before the finish keeps messing me up too cause i'll either go too qucik and hit the wall or i'll brake early and lose time. So it's an enigma puzzle to figure out. Anybody got any ghosts or videos I can look at? I was in the silver range but apparently more people got better times which reduced the silver time even more so now I'm back in the bronze group, ugh!!

I just watched the first 20 seconds or so, but would advice the opposite line to what you take now into turn 1. Start really tight, go out to the top, then turn in late back toward the gantry part, so that you are far to the right, making the left easier and it less likely you'll fall off to the right there. Being on the track before that 2nd last right is then easier, meaning you can get back on throttle quicker. Basically turn 1 and turn 2 are just ways to ensure you do turn 3 right. I'll upload a lap to show what I mean.

EDIT: Here is a clip. I use the chequered paint on the peak of turn 1 as a turn-in guide; turn in slightly as you pass the second one of those two, then increase your steering angle as you go (check the red dot) until you are on full lock. Then just before the gantry there is a black square on the ground. I aim to treat it as a cone I have to go around. Turn in 80% or so for a split second, then fully, to help not slide. Be patient on turn 3. Brake slightly earlier and again turn in increments (you'll see I had a bit of a slide first). Hope that helps.

 
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It's definitely a different driving experience; takes some time getting used to. You also need to be more careful on exit with the Supra. And entry is a bit more tricky too; it feels less eager to turn in. Actually overall you need to manhandle it more than the Porsche.

I've not driven the Nismo, but hopefully the above (and Djollie's post a few above) helps. 911 is easier and more forgiving; Supra is probably a bit quicker and if you drive that you can skip upper body day at the gym.
I also has success with the genesis
 
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I'm very happy about my run today, I lowered my time at Lago Maggiore and I did it with the 911, which for the community is a meta, but I wasn't able to get results from

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Back to study now, I have to better the hairpin and its approaching turn
Just posted this elsewhere but relevant to your comment:

It seems any time I’m debating a car the whole world says is quicker vs a car that I feel more comfortable with, invariably I am faster in the car everyone is using. I think me feeling more comfortable with a car has nothing to do with being fast in it.

I think what makes me like a car or feel more comfortable in it is more do to it being more forgiving, so I am more consistent in the car with fewer costly errors. But not faster.
 


Here is my BB walkthrough. As you can see the first part keeps throwing me off, I try to gain speed on the far left and as I go further I try to get to the right side, but the car is not cooperating, it slides to the left causing me to either hit the wall under the bridge thing or i'll go offtrack to the far right.

The last right turn before the finish keeps messing me up too cause i'll either go too qucik and hit the wall or i'll brake early and lose time. So it's an enigma puzzle to figure out. Anybody got any ghosts or videos I can look at? I was in the silver range but apparently more people got better times which reduced the silver time even more so now I'm back in the bronze group, ugh!!

Load a ghost for one of the top times. I used Laporty. Within about ten laps following his line I dropped my time. Another twenty and I had gold. You only actually need to brake twice and you never shift out of 4th except for the last corner. I use the D-pad and x and square for gas and brake and usually just use auto because shifting is difficult for me with the dualsense and my busted old man hands but manual is easy on this one. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
 
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Just posted this elsewhere but relevant to your comment:

It seems any time I’m debating a car the whole world says is quicker vs a car that I feel more comfortable with, invariably I am faster in the car everyone is using. I think me feeling more comfortable with a car has nothing to do with being fast in it.

I think what makes me like a car or feel more comfortable in it is more do to it being more forgiving, so I am more consistent in the car with fewer costly errors. But not faster.
This is a good point, I'd probably add talking about me, that the car more comfortable is possibly the one that forgives and "ignores" my input errors with the pedals
 
I've been switching between the Supra and the 911 at Lago Maggiore and keep getting slightly faster lap times in the 911 even though I'm sure the Supra is ultimately faster. Driving the 911 feels so effortless vs the Supra and the view in VR is better. The Supra has more potential but it's also more difficult to get just right. PB 0:51.024 (in the 911).

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I tried the 911 RSR first, then improved with the Supra, managing a 52.5xx... but after reading your post, I switched back to the 911 and I got within 0.2s of my best on my very first lap, which was very surprising - I also just prefer the 911 RSR for some reason, and I managed to break into Gold after a 20 minute session. That said, I doubt it will hold for a gold, and I'm not sure I have much in the way of improvement, but at least I managed to break the 52s barrier... :lol:

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Bob has created a video comparing the input devices with the BB Raceway TT, wheel, motion controls and standard controller. It's a really good comparison since it shows how slow the steering is and how the pad players can only get 70% of the steering the wheel users do in some of the corners:

 
I tried the 911 RSR first, then improved with the Supra, managing a 52.5xx... but after reading your post, I switched back to the 911 and I got within 0.2s of my best on my very first lap, which was very surprising - I also just prefer the 911 RSR for some reason, and I managed to break into Gold after a 20 minute session. That said, I doubt it will hold for a gold, and I'm not sure I have much in the way of improvement, but at least I managed to break the 52s barrier... :lol:

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Your score is impressive and it's exactly my objective here. I gave another chance to the RSR (more than 50 laps in 6 or 7 sessions, I would say) and the verdict is clear: I can't gold this TT with the Porsche. My best lap was 0:52.4xx :guilty:

May Miss Godzilla GT-R be fair and fast enough to give me another yellow medal in 10 days.


If anyone have an idea to turn off electricity in Saudi for the next 10 days, it would be very helpful and much appreciated... :D
 
Had an hour to try the Supra again, I slowly try to understand it, and when I load Jeddah's ghost I can keep up until the corner before the hairpin, then when I nail it, I'm very close to him, but the way he gains speed out of the hairpin is bizar, I have no idea how he manages that..and I loose al my time in the last 2 corners ...

1:51.489 for now in my M&M voiture 🤣
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Bob has created a video comparing the input devices with the BB Raceway TT, wheel, motion controls and standard controller. It's a really good comparison since it shows how slow the steering is and how the pad players can only get 70% of the steering the wheel users do in some of the corners:


Thanks for sharing this video. I think many that follow this thread already realized small differences in what one can achieve by steering with this or that. If PD could push the limit a bit more to try to improve steering on controller, both with joystick and motion sensor, that would be such a great thing for already great game!
 
Had an hour to try the Supra again, I slowly try to understand it, and when I load Jeddah's ghost I can keep up until the corner before the hairpin, then when I nail it, I'm very close to him, but the way he gains speed out of the hairpin is bizar, I have no idea how he manages that..and I loose al my time in the last 2 corners ...

1:51.489 for now in my M&M voiture 🤣
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Hey man, that's a nice ride and killer design, how long did it take for you to create it. I may need some of your art skills in the future.
 
Enjoyed the Maggiore TT much less than I thought I would... especially with the Supra. That car feels like a bull in a China shop here. I was enjoying the Porsche much more, but did set my best time in the Supra (51.6).

Regardless, all three accounts safely in gold and likely won't be going back. Might try the RCZ since some of you liked it so much, but we'll see...
 
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Enjoyed the Maggiore TT much less than I thought I would... especially with the Supra. That car feels like a bull in a China shop here. I was enjoying the Porsche much more, but did set my best time in the Supra (51.6).

Regardless, all three accounts safely in gold and likely won't be going back.
Oh, you're using the Supra? Does it have more punch/power than the Porsche RSR? All that's killing my time is that sharp right turn, I'm trying to find a line to give me a high exit speed from the curb.
 

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