Time Trial Discussion

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I see this week we have DailyA in the same TT track but with different car (Lago Maggiore west + Gr3/Lancer EVO)

Do you feel exercizing DailyA will leverage from the TT learning and viceversa or that the difference in car behave will make average drivers (aka me...) difficult to adapt and generates wrong habits on both?
 
This morning I barely had 1 hour to redo the laps on Lake Maggiore with the DS4 in manual mode and with the TC at 0. I was able to try out 2 different cars from the Porsche RSR.
First with the Ferrari 458. Nice car on this circuit, I was able to do a time of 0'52'124 very close to my best time with the Porsche (0'52'001). A Ferrari that has roughly the same behavior as the Porsche. A time that can be improved with the steering wheel.
Then I took the Toyota Supra for a test drive. I really don't get used to this car. Yet I find it better than on other circuits. I was able to do a time of 0'52'217. To see tomorrow with the steering wheel if I can improve this time.
 
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Do you feel exercizing DailyA will leverage from the TT learning and viceversa or that the difference in car behave will make average drivers (aka me...) difficult to adapt and generates wrong habits on both?
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They are so different that it barely matters that it's the same track.

I'm loving the Gr.3 TT, but the Daily A race is absolutely horrible (with the wheel anyway)... the latter should be better with a controller though.

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Speaking of the Gr.3 TT, Jeddah_Racing has chipped another few thousands off and has put my time up to 2.85%... I doubt my time will hold on for a gold, but I've reached my limit - the Supra just isn't doing it for me, and hence my best time is not going to improve any further.
 
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The 31 second Bean lap is so close, yet so far away!

I'm still losing time in T3. I can't figure it out.

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I don’t know how to find consistency with the Supra, I spent another hour on it this evening and got down to a 51.75, but I can see so many mistakes in the replay and my optimal is a tenth better.

The idea of a wheel gets more and more compelling if it means I can hit an apex with a better than 50% success rate lol. Doing full lock on the pad really puts it all on timing.
 
Ok, Lago TT. 50.949 so p42 atm. I think that .8 is there, well my optimum was low.8 so. 👍

I really like the tune on the Supra. Must say, that in these resent TTs, tunes have been quite good.

Now, PD, could you give us better tire temp meters? As it seems that you have implemented the tire temps in the TTs also. 😄
 
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That awkward moment when you are 61st in the world and only 6th on your friends leaderboard 😂😂

I’m back after a busy week away with work. Enjoyed checking in and reading the thread in quiet moments. Without going in to too much detail this is definitely the worst time trial for steering wheel/pedal advantage. This car is one of the worst I’ve driven for deliberately being able to understeer the car to go quicker.

For anyone not familiar with a wheel/pedals on GT7, putting in too much steering input is one of the biggest killers of speed. In some cars it is absolutely savage (like the Sauber C9/other group C monsters!) and without the exact steering input you are miles slower. So whilst ultimately the wheel can make you quicker it is also more of a challenge to get right. But it’s definitely got an unfair advantage on this trial

The only other TT I’ve noticed it on was the Alphard TT with the long sweeping left hander, on a wheel you could power understeer round that and get an extra 0.1s or so. Although that didn’t seem to matter to forum pad aliens like @Gomario JSP who seemed to get round just as quick on a pad! 👽 😁

I’ll try the new challenge tomorrow, looks fun!
 
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That awkward moment when you are 61st in the world and only 6th on your friends leaderboard 😂😂

I’m back after a busy week away with work. Enjoyed checking in and reading the thread in quiet moments. Without going in to too much detail this is definitely the worst time trial for steering wheel/pedal advantage. This car is one of the worst I’ve driven for deliberately being able to understeer the car to go quicker.

For anyone not familiar with a wheel/pedals on GT7, putting in too much steering input is one of the biggest killers of speed. In some cars it is absolutely savage (like the Sauber C9/other group C monsters!) and without the exact steering input you are miles slower. So whilst ultimately the wheel can make you quicker it is also more of a challenge to get right. But it’s definitely got an unfair advantage on this trial

The only other TT I’ve noticed it on was the Alphard TT with the long sweeping left hander, on a wheel you could power understeer round that and get an extra 0.1s or so. Although that didn’t seem to matter to forum pad aliens like @Gomario JSP who seemed to get round just as quick on a pad! 👽 😁

I’ll try the new challenge tomorrow, looks fun!
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Your posts have been missed Dan! Time to borrow the Nokia setup instructions to play while away lol
 
Now that I got a decent time on the board, it is time to drive all the different cars :D I'm trying to get all the cars into the 51s, and these are all I got for so far...will update as I drives more cars.

CarTimeNoteCarTimeNote
Alfa 4C51.549A little understeery, but absolutely stableM651.839Rotate very nicely on high speed corner
GR Supra Concept51.642METAGT-R GT500 '9951.935Short shift at 6k RPM!
Viper SRT51.670Totally surprised! It drives a bit weird, but can turn out an awesome time if done rightM3 GT '1151.961Very understeery
458 Italia51.800A bit oversteery, but rotate very nicelySupra GT500 '9751.969
Corvette C751.821Very decent, careful of the low-end gruntBRZ GT50051.999Can do the fastest 1st sector. The only car I can do 17.0s in the first sector. Absolutely gets murder in the second sector.
 
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Tried the BB TT again tonight. Nope. I can't do crap with that car on the pad. Seeing the posts above make me feel better about my slowness in that thing.

So back to Maggiore I go. Much better! I enjoyed turning laps at the Nurb TT in the Supra a few months ago. The slight oversteery nature I find quite satisfying, because I can actually control it. And it's fast. Instead of wallowing all the way down in 22nd (twenty second!) on my friends leaderboard like BB, I'm actually competitive in a car that turns with a controller. Yay.
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Dan_Tes
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That awkward moment when you are 61st in the world and only 6th on your friends leaderboard 😂😂

I’m back after a busy week away with work. Enjoyed checking in and reading the thread in quiet moments. Without going in to too much detail this is definitely the worst time trial for steering wheel/pedal advantage. This car is one of the worst I’ve driven for deliberately being able to understeer the car to go quicker.

For anyone not familiar with a wheel/pedals on GT7, putting in too much steering input is one of the biggest killers of speed. In some cars it is absolutely savage (like the Sauber C9/other group C monsters!) and without the exact steering input you are miles slower. So whilst ultimately the wheel can make you quicker it is also more of a challenge to get right. But it’s definitely got an unfair advantage on this trial

The only other TT I’ve noticed it on was the Alphard TT with the long sweeping left hander, on a wheel you could power understeer round that and get an extra 0.1s or so. Although that didn’t seem to matter to forum pad aliens like @Gomario JSP who seemed to get round just as quick on a pad! 👽 😁

I’ll try the new challenge tomorrow, looks fun!
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Congrats on that time Dan, i was wondering allready when you would pop up high on the board, and indeed what a board, i didn't even check it anymore because i was so frustrated lapping BB over and over again and just was consistent with .2xx every time and now and then a 1xx , but there is just no time to find for me, the way some end up on the right even on curb or over it while beeing flat out in T1 was a real mistery for me, but now i understand and leave it at that with my .167 , happy with it but can't do nothing about it :lol:
Good to see you set in some real big boys time you freaking alien :lol:
I'm sure you will pop up with a 51.2 or something, it's a nice challenge altho it does make my DS4 make sounds it never has :lol:

@Dolph Drago nice lap!, so funny that if you look at the board it's kind of close!, i know there is more time to find.
I'm fairly quick at S1 and match Jeddah even after T1, shame there are more corners after that..... :lol:

Trying to get some time in in this week but it's busy, work is nuts before the summer (architecture) and everyone want things done :banghead: plus on sunday i'm of for a drive to the south of france (1272 km non stop) , beach & whiskey time for 2 weeks....
So have to do a lot of stuff this week and i aint TT hunting :lol::lol:
 
Hello hackers, I think I asked before and asked for help from both @skidmark69 and @half_sourly but if anyone knows how to extract country from the PD leaderboard database, in my humble opinion, that might be interesting to see also position in the country per TT. I know I was P55 from Sweden in Olympic TT ( I havent even reached gold there, I was not that fast) but currently I am P1 from Sweden so very happy about it (yes, i clicked on all profiles before me on PDs leaderboard, dont know otherwise how to extract info ) :D
 
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Put in an hour last night and tried all 3 of my go to Gr3 cars at the Lago TT. Managed a 52.112 with the M6, a 52.242 with the RCZ and 51.9xx with the 911. I should be able to find some more lap time with any of those cars when I have some more free time over the weekend. Interesting thing I noticed is that out of the 3 cars, the RCZ feels the quickest even though I got my slowest time with it, I think I might need to adjust my braking window slightly. Out of the box the 911 just feels at home at that track, the M6 feels like understeer city, really impressive that TheKie25 can get this thing near sub 51s. All in all, this is a really fun TT, I like it.
 
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Can you try Huracan next? I'm really curious how much further I can push my 51:93x.
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Sure thing...I should have time later to test it. If not...tonight.

@AshenGraey
How's the speed with the RCZ? For me the BRZ feels the quickest in all the corners, but I just sit and watch the #1 supra disappears into the distance in sector 2 on the straight and the final 2 bends.

Kinda interesting with the M6, I actually finds it rotate pretty well....I on the other hand, had a lot of problem trying to get the 911 to turn.
 
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Interesting thing I noticed is that out of the 3 cars, the RCZ feels the quickest even though I got my slowest time with it, I think I might need to adjust my braking window slightly. Out of the box the 911 just feels at home at that track, ...
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I had a similar experience with the new AMG: it felt quick, it sounded fast, but I wasn't able to get the power down. My beloved McLaren didn't work for me either. The 911 ist really super-grippy and easy to steer.
 
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Hello hackers, I think I asked before and asked for help from both @skidmark69 and @half_sourly but if anyone knows how to extract country from the PD leaderboard database, in my humble opinion, that might be interesting to see also position in the country per TT. I know I was P55 from Sweden in Olympic TT ( I havent even reached gold there, I was not that fast) but currently I am P1 from Sweden so very happy about it (yes, i clicked on all profiles before me on PDs leaderboard, dont know otherwise how to extract info ) :D
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I can do that now so will from this week.
 

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