Time Trial Discussion

[Barareklam]

@half_sourly

 

[Pesselles]

2 improvements here:

- the light one: I'm back in gold with a 0:52.012 on Lake Maggiore (thanks to my RSR, finally). I'm aware it's a very weak score and my objective is still the "0:51 Club" before the end of this TT.
#KeepPushing

- the huge one: I've finally found where are the friendships notifications on the PS5.... I'm sorry for those who sent me their requests a while and I've accepted everybody

 

[Evilmuffin]

Drove a few more cars. Here is the updated table

Car	Time	Note
Alfa 4C	51.549	A little understeery, but absolutely stable
RX-VISSION	51.636	Very nice to drive. Optimal is in the 51.4s
GR Supra Concept	51.642	META
Viper SRT	51.670	Totally surprised! It drives a bit weird, but can turn out an awesome time if done right
R8 LMS Evo '19	51.718	Rotates really well. A bit scary
Ford GT '18	51.744	Weird gearing. Some corners need lower gear than normal
458 Italia	51.800	A bit oversteery, but rotate very nicely
Genesis	51.801	Need to short shift
Corvette C7	51.821	Very decent, careful of the low-end grunt
M6	51.839	Rotate very nicely on high speed corner
AMG GT3 '16	51.840	Very neutral and unremarkable
Huracan	51.860	Rotates well. Hates bumps
GT-R GT500 '99	51.935	Short shift at 6k RPM
M3 GT '11	51.961	Very understeery
Supra GT500 '97	51.969	Weird gearing
BRZ GT500	51.999	Can do very fast 1st sector. Waves good bye to the Supra in sector 2's straight and the final 2 kinks

 

[zjn]

I shaved another 20ms and am now sitting at 52.336 with an optimal jus below the (current) gold.
Reviewing my replay I see that I'm leaving lot of track at my side approaching quite each and every turn.
I can justify the approat to the hairpin, where I missed the breaking point, but for all rest I have to pay more attention to it!
Also need to be more fluid in T1+T2. I see Mistah having a U line, where I'm more like \_/

I'd say that with all the junk I put in this lap 52.336 looks quite a fast time. Hopefully if I can make my feet and arms onboard with the proposed strategy I can close the gold gap.

I'm happy I've done it with the 911. I'm hopefully going back in love with it.

 

[Evilmuffin]

I shaved another 20ms and am now sitting at 52.336 with an optimal jus below the (current) gold.
Reviewing my replay I see that I'm leaving lot of track at my side approaching quite each and every turn.
I can justify the approat to the hairpin, where I missed the breaking point, but for all rest I have to pay more attention to it!
Also need to be more fluid in T1+T2. I see Mistah having a U line, where I'm more like \_/

I'd say that with all the junk I put in this lap 52.336 looks quite a fast time. Hopefully if I can make my feet and arms onboard with the proposed strategy I can close the gold gap.

I'm happy I've done it with the 911. I'm hopefully going back in love with it.

Aside from the obvious hairpin approach. The banked right after that...You should be able to apply full power (with the 911) right at or even before the 1st yellow marking (the 3 yellow strips) for the exit. Adjust your braking and turn in so you can do that. Very important to keep the throttle pinned to the floor for that corner.

 

[Pesselles]

Aside from the obvious hairpin approach. The banked right after that...You should be able to apply full power (with the 911) right at or even before the 1st yellow marking (the 3 yellow strips) for the exit. Adjust your braking and turn in so you can do that. Very important to keep the throttle pinned to the floor for that corner.

I agree, that's probably exactly here where I'm losing the most of time.
Thanks so much, I'll try to apply your tip.

 

[Chris30]

Well, I'm gonna do my best tonight through tomorrow night to get this gold, but it's going to take time,work,effort and dedication. Remember, you don't put the work in, you don't get the reward. That's what I learned in school and work. I'm sure it will take me at least 30 laps to nail it down. The sharp right turn is a pain, it has to be executed right in order to get a high-speed exit going out.

 

[zjn]

Aside from the obvious hairpin approach. The banked right after that...You should be able to apply full power (with the 911) right at or even before the 1st yellow marking (the 3 yellow strips) for the exit. Adjust your braking and turn in so you can do that. Very important to keep the throttle pinned to the floor for that corner.

Thanks, I'll give it a try having the yellow marking as a target.

That turn is also a sort of mind game for me. I noticed couple of time my brain indicating full throttle, do or die, and my foot negotiating it.

If I'm not even able to have my foot hear to me, how in the world am I expecting my two doughters to do it?!? #dadrant

 

[TheNormsk]

For Lake Maggiore my US account is still comfortably in gold so that is nice but the GB account has slipped out and is now 3.3 ish % off leader. I tried a few laps this morning and could only manage a 52.4x time with many laps much worse than that.

Don't you just hate it when you're on a roll one day, you're golding the TT and you know you have more time in you but you have to stop due to time. Then you come back a day or two later and it is like you've forgotten how to drive?

That's me today. Can't put a good lap in for anything...

 

[Chris30]

Thanks, I'll give it a try having the yellow marking as a target.

That turn is also a sort of mind game for me. I noticed couple of time my brain indicating full throttle, do or die, and my foot negotiating it.

If I'm not even able to have my foot hear to me, how in the world am I expecting my two doughters to do it?!? #dadrant

Good luck, think you can get in the 0:51.000 club? I'm in a low 0'53.000 time. Got any good replays I can look at?

 

[zjn]

Good luck, think you can get in the 0:51.000 club? I'm in a low 0'53.000 time. Got any good replays I can look at?

I'm using Mystah + TheKie25 (and others, but these two are the main) to learn offline, @Evilmuffin and @Dolph Drago had good ones couple of posts ago
Mystah is using 911 here, like I am, so that suites best to me for a "frame-to-frame" comparison.

 

[TheNormsk]

Good luck, think you can get in the 0:51.000 club? I'm in a low 0'53.000 time. Got any good replays I can look at?

Another thing you can do is search the Showcase for time trial replays using the car you are interested in. If you add their replay to your collection you can then chase their ghost. Also once it is in a collection you can easily replay their replay so you can study and learn the lines they take, the speed, gear etc.

If you are 53 now then look for a replay that is around 52.5 and also 52. Chase the slowest first and when you can match that, change the ghost and chase the faster. Sometimes it is better chasing a ghost that is within 1/2s to 1s ahead of you rather than an alien that is totally out of reach..

EDIT: I just shared my 51.936s time. Search for the tag "normsk".

 

[AshenGraey]

Sure thing...I should have time later to test it. If not...tonight.

@AshenGraey
How's the speed with the RCZ? For me the BRZ feels the quickest in all the corners, but I just sit and watch the #1 supra disappears into the distance in sector 2 on the straight and the final 2 bends.

Kinda interesting with the M6, I actually finds it rotate pretty well....I on the other hand, had a lot of problem trying to get the 911 to turn.

For the RCZ, I only did 6-7 laps with it, in the corners especially the medium-slow ones, to me the rotation felt quick and is fairly stable. I have not really paid attention to the speed but on the straights it's probably not be the fastest, which I think has been an issue with this car ever since it got nerfed a long time ago. For the M6, its great in the fast corners. The medium-slow ones though is where I find it a bit lazy to turn. Ended up in the gravel and the grass many many times over the course of 12 or so laps with the M6.

 

[Chris30]

Another thing you can do is search the Showcase for time trial replays using the car you are interested in. If you add their replay to your collection you can then chase their ghost. Also once it is in a collection you can easily replay their replay so you can study and learn the lines they take, the speed, gear etc.

If you are 53 now then look for a replay that is around 52.5 and also 52. Chase the slowest first and when you can match that, change the ghost and chase the faster. Sometimes it is better chasing a ghost that is within 1/2s to 1s ahead of you rather than an alien that is totally out of reach..

EDIT: I just shared my 51.936s time. Search for the tag "normsk".

Ok, thank you. I'll write it down. I'm gonna work on this tonight and tomorrow, wish me luck!

 

[Evilmuffin]

Thanks, I'll give it a try having the yellow marking as a target.

That turn is also a sort of mind game for me. I noticed couple of time my brain indicating full throttle, do or die, and my foot negotiating it.

If I'm not even able to have my foot hear to me, how in the world am I expecting my two doughters to do it?!? #dadrant

If it helps....there is a slightly discolored patch on the curb you can use as the brake marker. It is a bit hard to see on this pic, but pretty obvious when you are in the game.

 

[TheNormsk]

If it helps....there is a slightly discolored patch on the curb you can use as the brake marker. It is a bit hard to see on this pic, but pretty obvious when you are in the game.

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This is the marker that I use. I agree it's much more obvious in the game.

 

[Barareklam]

P35

For me , on DualSense, I am happy as a world!!!

I still need to pinch myself...I am faster than Finnish guy... That... Never... Happened... Before... 😳
And sorry to @Dan_Tes too, but still 1-2 days left, let's see how this will end.

 

[2Quickrides]

P35

For me , on DualSense, I am happy as a world!!!

I still need to pinch myself...I am faster than Finnish guy... That... Never... Happened... Before... 😳
And sorry to @Dan_Tes too, but still 1-2 days left, let's see how this will end.
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Thank you for slowing by that thousandth at the end, I appreciate it. Side note, even this late I've dropped 8 places from 24th since Friday. Fast times!

 

[TheWeapon874]

Put an hour or so into the TT last night, and tried a few different cars. The Renault was very good, as was the Genesis, but the Porsche felt the best for me (probably because I’ve spent the most time in it, but it also felt the most stable over the bump at the edge of turn 1/2, which gave me problems in some of the other cars).

Anyway, happy with my efforts. Into the top 100 (for now)…

 

[GlockPants]

200 laps at BB. No improvement. I feel lopsided.

That 31 second lap is just one more lap away!

I'm surprised even my average over that distance is still gold. As you can see from the chart, I had a few excursions, I had to brake up the monotony with some doughnuts.

One day left, but there's no way I'm doing another 200 laps here.

 

[MiniMax]

My objective for these TT events is to try for gold using a car that is comfortable to drive. Not always the car that is dominating the leader boards. I used the '18 Supra in various other races but the exits of the hairpin and Banky Boy were too sensitive on the throttle and I would spin out whenever trying to get a strong exit.

The car that was easiest to drive while still able to achieve Gold for me was the new '20 AMG Mercedes, no problems on the exits and fast enough through the sweepers.

 

[Owen.C93]

My objective for these TT events is to try for gold using a car that is comfortable to drive. Not always the car that is dominating the leader boards. I used the '18 Supra in various other races but the exits of the hairpin and Banky Boy were too sensitive on the throttle and I would spin out whenever trying to get a strong exit.

The car that was easiest to drive while still able to achieve Gold for me was the new '20 AMG Mercedes, no problems on the exits and fast enough through the sweepers.

I think you’re right. I spent hours lapping the supra to get a 51.75, hopped on the 911 and got a 51.5 within 10 laps.

I like to think of the Supra as training weights before I went back to a car that is a lot more stable.

 

[TheWeapon874]

I’d love to see the ability to filter leaderboards by brand….it might encourage people to try more cars.

Hell, even if it kept our own personal best lap with each car, that would be enough to get me trying each car

 

[Dan_Tes]

P35

For me , on DualSense, I am happy as a world!!!

I still need to pinch myself...I am faster than Finnish guy... That... Never... Happened... Before... 😳
And sorry to @Dan_Tes too, but still 1-2 days left, let's see how this will end.
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Brooooo 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 super fast time my man! I took lots of time out to try and breach that stupid 31.9 barrier, aaaaand failed. Well played well played and @2Quickrides i concede defeat!

Had a quick go on the new one, not my favourite track or layout so might be a bit of a grind. Familiar Gr.3 cars mean it’ll be difficult to set a competitive time I guess! Hoping the new TT brings something more interesting 🤓

 

[330_D]

Found the car that works best for me so far. '20 AMG. Pulls so hard out of the hairpin as long as you get it aimed.

Still some time to gain as well.

 

[2Quickrides]

@2Quickrides i concede defeat!

Guess I had to win one eventually!

Had a quick go on the new one, not my favourite track or layout so might be a bit of a grind. Familiar Gr.3 cars mean it’ll be difficult to set a competitive time I guess! Hoping the new TT brings something more interesting 🤓

This is exactly why I tried a much slower car first to try to make it more fun. Tired of the same old metas. And the Supra has the worst cockpit view of any of them!

 

[Evilmuffin]

The Supra has the worst cockpit view of any of them!

Agreed....until I tried the Citroen GR3. A tank would have a better visibility than this car.

 

[JamCar0ne]

If it helps....there is a slightly discolored patch on the curb you can use as the brake marker. It is a bit hard to see on this pic, but pretty obvious when you are in the game.

Thank you for this tip, I had been using one of the shadow lines but the dark patch on the curb works way better. Helps me take the bank more consistently.

With this new brake marker I managed to reestablish a gold time of 51.894 using the RCZ. Going to revisit the NSX (52.072) and Mustang (52.318) to see if I can improve them. Had tried the 4C but it seemed busier to drive with the need to shift into 5th more often.

@half_sourly using a wheel here.

 

[Gomario JSP]

pfff..... i tried for like 200 miles yesterday to get into the Maggiore zone but went car hopping, and if i'm car hopping out of frustration nothing is going to get out of it
could not get the feeling on the nokia-setup.

This morning before work started out fresh and hopped back in the meta, i said it out loud, Suppa i appriciate you now....
and i was ALL over the place ....., i did 360 on places i didn't even know it was possible..
The car felt so loose compared to yesterday evening, the only difference was that i was on the big screen now instead of my laptop

T2 - T3.... i have seen so much smoke it was not even funny.


Then suddenly with like 10 minutes before i had to leave i had some better laps in the low 51.5xx and tried to push some more netted me a new PB of 51.403

@Dolph Drago i looked at my leaderboard and started laughing and yelled, ooohh come oooonnn!!!!!
had 5 minutes left and had another go, first lap i was to scared at banky boi and threw my lap away ( what happens a lot in Banky for me, getting scared, lift to much and throw away my exitspeed )
Second lap was a little better!

I must say that it seems like a lot of more faster players take part in these TT's?, or did i get slower in the process?
with this lap (wich felt quite fast imo) i'm not ending up in the top 1000,
With the stress of getting on time at work i even forgot to save my fastest lap, got my .403 but not the 401...

Guess i have to do better then......

 

[Fezzik]

Agreed....until I tried the Citroen GR3. A tank would have a better visibility than this car.

This is what is keeping me from getting VR, I love that car but no way can I drive it in cockpit view