Time Trial Discussion
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Yeah you got point there, and ofcourse HSR wall took some serious beating from the top guys indeed, I was more refering to Jedda's flying lap on MP😁
Imo driving backwards on the straight to get a higher speed across the line for the start or the wallride is a whole nother level then abusing the gearbox like on MP, i dont see that as exploit personally, but if you ask me if it reflects to a real run in a MC20?..... would be a very expensive lap...
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GlockPants
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Where I come from, we call that a "Money Shift"
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Both wall riding and gearbox over rev trickery exploit the game's lack of damage mechanics and are the same in my book. The difference is users here like one of those things 😅
For those that are unaware, the DCT in the Maserati MC20 does not allow you to enter an over rev condition. So not only do we have a lack of damage mechanics, this shouldn't even be possible in the first place if PD correctly represented the car in the game.
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I suppose we'll eventually have to agree to disagree. However, I'll depart this topic with this: the main difference is that there are penalities for making contact with the wall in a lot of cases. Why PD isn't consistent with the application of said penalties is a mystery. PD has never implemented a game mechanic to simulate you turning your engine or drivetrain into a grenade, so to expect that now is, I think, expecting too much from them. Could they do it? Probably, but they won't. And in the grand scheme of things, I don't believe it's that big of a deal when you look at a lot of other shortcomings.
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Is the Suzuka TT with the NSX the same in terms of setup and power as the CE for that track? When I did the CE I got a 1.50.5xx to gold it which was well over a second above the target. If so, I'm hoping I will be able to just click with it when I do give the TT a try later.
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Between travel, work and visitors I haven’t touched my PS4 in over a week, but managed to grab some time this morning. This was probably my only session before next weekend so I wanted to make the most of it and see if I could improve at Bathurst. I was only 60miles in to date, and after a further 25 have thrown in the towel. I just don’t have the time to grind away at this and bouncing off walls for massive penalties and ruined laps/restarts just isn’t fun - so bronze it is 😬.
WaS about to turn off the game in disgust but thought I’d try Suzuka… which is much more fun in a Gr.2 car on real tires 😂. 40 miles in and 2 tenths off gold. Will pick this up again next weekend. Sorry I’ve not kept up with the last 10-15pages of the thread, so hopefully everyone is doing ok. Cheers
WaS about to turn off the game in disgust but thought I’d try Suzuka… which is much more fun in a Gr.2 car on real tires 😂. 40 miles in and 2 tenths off gold. Will pick this up again next weekend. Sorry I’ve not kept up with the last 10-15pages of the thread, so hopefully everyone is doing ok. Cheers
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Yes Carlos, everyone is doing ok, even those who can't gold this ***** Suzuka TT ....
Cheers
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Same car, but the TT has BoP applied. Generally slower than the CE setup.
EDIT: for reference, the WR on the TT is 1:48.537 while the WR at the CE is 1:46.903.
Both of those are set by the same person (R8G_Kylian19, as of this post).
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I agree on the penalties, I said a few pages back that touching the wall on Mount Panorama gets you a penalty, but on HSR it gets you gold, there's no consistency.
Regarding over rev, it's a very easy thing to implement with an update. My 20 year old automatic car has very simple software where the gear change doesn't occur if it puts the car in an over or under rev condition
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I read that as Monkey ****.Where I come from, we call that a "Money Shift"
Equally applicable I suppose.
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Doh...that could've been a 14s. Generally speaking, you can be braver with the throttle....a lot of place you were at 50/60%, but you can do 80/90% and the car wouldn't slide. The right hander after the long straight at the beginning of the 2nd sector you can take it in 3rd....just lift off both the brake and throttle and the car will rotate very nicely. Last corner can shift to 3rd before apex and apply part throttle to maintain better minimum speed.
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19 laps at Suzuka today to break into Gold.
I'm getting better at the Spoon, but still having inconsistencies from T1 to T2 and then the exit from the esses in S1. I think I need to place the car wider on the track there to have a wider angle to the apex so I can full throttle up that hill. Optimals look good, I wonder if the WR will come down.
@Evilmuffin Your time is impressive here!
I'm getting better at the Spoon, but still having inconsistencies from T1 to T2 and then the exit from the esses in S1. I think I need to place the car wider on the track there to have a wider angle to the apex so I can full throttle up that hill. Optimals look good, I wonder if the WR will come down.
@Evilmuffin Your time is impressive here!
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I just noticed my comments on the post were about a diff lap (not the one in the vid that was my fastest lap). About 11-laps after the vid one, I came into forest's elbow up 0.6xx - but came out up 0.5xx, made up some time down the straight, did kink fine, but braked slightly early and had to coast little longer into the apex. Knowing I was losing time, i thought "don't over-push, just finish the lap with .2-.3 improvement", so I go into the right-hander for last straight annnnnd gunned the throttle, over-shot the exit and mowed the lawn. Followed by 30-rage doughnuts trying not to audibly yell lol. This track is wonderfully hard and requires superb throttle & braking placement.
I was able to chill out though and had 2-almost PB laps couple laps later - knew they weren't enough for gold though. Then the kids and wife got up - "daddy look at the fingernail polish I chose in my game (on cheap tablet)" "daddy I'm hungry I want BACON!" so that was the end of that lol. I'm going to get it though!
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Dropped my Suzuki time with the Audi to a 1:50.6 - which I'm more than happy with considering the car.
I have no idea why they slam near enough 200kg into the car in BoP, it makes it drive like an absolute tank and it's still way slower than the GT500's.
I have no idea why they slam near enough 200kg into the car in BoP, it makes it drive like an absolute tank and it's still way slower than the GT500's.
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Hi all, this is my first foray in to time trialling again for many years.
@half_sourly be grateful if you can add me to your list of GTP participants please. Won't be troubling any of you front runners, but it's the taking part eh!
The MC20 at Panorama was a tricky baptism, positioned for a bronze and pleased to see the back of that one.
@half_sourly be grateful if you can add me to your list of GTP participants please. Won't be troubling any of you front runners, but it's the taking part eh!
The MC20 at Panorama was a tricky baptism, positioned for a bronze and pleased to see the back of that one.
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Sister in law came for a visit and took the wife out for a bit which gave me a couple of hours to have a go at Suzuka....200 miles later I got a 1.51.267. Was pushing to get into that 1.50s club but I ran out of time. If I don't get to play again before Suzuka's gone, hopefully that time will stick for gold.
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Minor improvement (6/100) this afternoon. Changing livery seemed to help 
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Not a bad lap there!
I think you lost quite a bit of time in the first corner what gets even bigger due to the following straight, I noticed I was faster when later in the throttle without the wheelspin, just feeding the throttle until you are certain you eliminated wheelspin in 3th
The right hander after the straight I tried for many miles to copy Jeddah revving it dead in second, and up to 4th on the apex, but once I tried downshifting to 3, and stay in third gentle to the apex (not toutching the curb....only if you want to make a 360 🤣) and gently feeding throttle again I was a lot faster!, just be patiënt for throttle input.
Downhill i think you can be a little more agressive between corners and have some throttle input instead of coasting alone, if I look at my lap I have a lot of throttle "taps" to place the car, I find it more predictable than the sliding, but that is maby my personal drivingstyle.
Downhill at the start of the S'es i rather stay in 3th in steady of 2th and under the firestone billboard as quick as possible to 4th to prevent wheelspin and be a bit more stable.
But not a bad lap!, you will nail this difficult one! 🙏👍👌👌
But i see now that the muffinman kind of already mentioned this all 🙈🤣🙏
Good luck!
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It's been a couple days since I visited Mount Panorama. I spent some time at Suzuka on Thursday with a best of 1:51.079. I had a lap where I was up on my best by 3 tenths heading into the final chicane, only to lose over 4 tenths in said chicane. And I have no idea how I lost that time. I also learned afterwards watching the videos posted here that I can brake much later into turn 1. Some food for thought when I eventually make my way back to the track. Yesterday I didn't log onto GT.
Which led to today. After much frustration and 160 miles later, I finally improved on my previous best, hitting 2:13.733. A subpar first sector cost me at least a tenth. Still, decent pickup overall.
I was consistently low 14's, high 13's. What was painful was how well I got through sector 1 on the lap after my best, only to get into turn 2 too deep. It was a 19.6. If only I had that sector time on lap 1.
I called it quits at that point.
Moved into the top 5 on my friends leaderboard!
I was exactly .001 behind @Nebuc72 before my run today. That would have been unacceptable.
Which led to today. After much frustration and 160 miles later, I finally improved on my previous best, hitting 2:13.733. A subpar first sector cost me at least a tenth. Still, decent pickup overall.
I was consistently low 14's, high 13's. What was painful was how well I got through sector 1 on the lap after my best, only to get into turn 2 too deep. It was a 19.6. If only I had that sector time on lap 1.
I called it quits at that point.Moved into the top 5 on my friends leaderboard!
I was exactly .001 behind @Nebuc72 before my run today. That would have been unacceptable. Bathurst has been so much fun but tricky. I really enjoy road car physics on this game. A lot management is required which I love. I do find that I spend more time doing time trial with stock card over Gr1-4. Racing tyres really take out a lot of feeling for me. I have just got a low 2:14 on day 2 of trying this one. Hoping for a time in the high 13's when it closes. Fingers crossed
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Guys are you adjusting steering sensitivity from TT to TT?
I guess question is more for controller users but if someone is doing it on wheel too please say if you are.
Thanks.
I guess question is more for controller users but if someone is doing it on wheel too please say if you are.
Thanks.
