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Oh man, I think I'm tapped out at Tokyo now.
Another 20 laps, I was doing ok but I felt like my focus was fading from the start. But I powered through the gauntlet of invalidated laps for some great improvement!
At lap 16 I finally set a new PB with a 1:22.181 and I was thinking of just ending the session there. But I said to myself, just do the 20 laps.
Glad I did because I set a real heater on lap 20.
But now that I'm practically at my optimal lap, and I don't think I've had any optimal in the 21's, this might be my last session here.
Another 20 laps, I was doing ok but I felt like my focus was fading from the start. But I powered through the gauntlet of invalidated laps for some great improvement!
At lap 16 I finally set a new PB with a 1:22.181 and I was thinking of just ending the session there. But I said to myself, just do the 20 laps.
Glad I did because I set a real heater on lap 20.
But now that I'm practically at my optimal lap, and I don't think I've had any optimal in the 21's, this might be my last session here.
As per my previous post: every session you have like that, the next one is most likely going to be that much better. That 1:22.1 I had earlier today seemed like a super good lap, but when I came back to it a bit later, almost instantly a rather huge improvement. I couldn't leave it at that 22 when 21 is soooo close.
Maybe the nicest thing about this TT is that it's so easy to pick up and try, and doesn't take long to get a few tries in. It's basically a six piece puzzle, each one of those rather simple in principle but the challenge comes from putting those six solutions in a row. And you can gain that one tenth on any of those elements very suddenly. It's just a matter of that magic 'this time it didn't quite touch the wall' moment.
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Thanks for the encouragement. I probably will do a stint or two more before the new TT drops Thursday. I'm at least pretty dialed in with the 400R right now.
As far as where I can make up time vs the WR is in S1/S4 and 3 where I lose the most time. I don't get as good an exit of the last turn, so the ghost is always ahead by T1. Then exiting the tunnel in S3 I can't seem to carry as much speed as them either.
Thanks for the encouragement. I probably will do a stint or two more before the new TT drops Thursday. I'm at least pretty dialed in with the 400R right now.
As far as where I can make up time vs the WR is in S1/S4 and 3 where I lose the most time. I don't get as good an exit of the last turn, so the ghost is always ahead by T1. Then exiting the tunnel in S3 I can't seem to carry as much speed as them either.
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Epic! Congrats man!
Hi,
@GlockPants... "I set a real heater on lap 20." - May I steal that line? It might need a little tweaking though. Something like "I set a real heater on lap 236."
This TT is, by far, the most difficult I have attempted. The slightest brush of a kerb. The merest "kiss" of a barrier and it's a red lap. Tomorrow evening, my wife is walking the dogs and making dinner and doing the washing up. I am going to do my damndest to get a gold here. I'll let y'all know on Thursday.
Once more, my hat is off to all those who get within a "prize" time on this one. The margin for error appears to be microscopic!
Best regards to all here.
Ian.
@GlockPants... "I set a real heater on lap 20." - May I steal that line? It might need a little tweaking though. Something like "I set a real heater on lap 236."
This TT is, by far, the most difficult I have attempted. The slightest brush of a kerb. The merest "kiss" of a barrier and it's a red lap. Tomorrow evening, my wife is walking the dogs and making dinner and doing the washing up. I am going to do my damndest to get a gold here. I'll let y'all know on Thursday.
Once more, my hat is off to all those who get within a "prize" time on this one. The margin for error appears to be microscopic!
Best regards to all here.
Ian.
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1:21.x. Look at nationality. Yup, checks out!Seems I am, in fact, better than I give myself credit for. I was pretty sure I couldn't get to certificate with the Civic at 'schleife, but got it pretty comfortably. With this Tokyo TT, I estimated a 1:22.3 is in the cards for me, but today that was an easy target. Maybe it was the Finnish color variant I rented for today, but those mid 22s just kept on coming. And then suddenly got a superb corner after the first tunnel and didn't even realize. Which might have been for the better, because there was absolutely no calculations going on in my head on the latter stages of the lap. I kinda felt like I missed the apex on the corner after the second tunnel, but had no sliding so the momentum remained. The one thing bugging me is that I was actually going for another fast lap after this, so did the 3rd to 4th gear change just before the start/finish line. And I actually was faster through the first sector on the following lap, but totally binned it after the tunnel. So would have gladly exchanged that for those 1/100ths I could have had by just revving it. I don't think that would have been enough to get to 21s though. I have had 15/100ths worth of better sectors than this one (first and last sectors), so theoretically it would be possible.
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Edit: Soooo... since no-one else is posting, I'll make a little addition. As in, totally left the 22s in the dust so ignore all of that above
Evenings seem to be my prime time, was the same yesterday. Being off the track for a few hours in between and coming back, the learnings of the earlier session just take form. This lap had absolutely no weak spots, though in two corners I had to do an additional lift-off on the gas for the simple reason that I was going faster than on any other lap before. Don't even know how I had the instinct of doing that, I'm pretty sure on most occasions I would have just plowed to the Barry R, sweared a while and started again. Oh yes, and absolutely no last stretch upshift here, grind that limiter to the finish line!
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Have to say, I'm a grown man (like, Alonso old) and still: once those digits were on the HUD, I was quite emotional. Had to have that real race like cool down lap, just letting that Champion blue 400R coast through Tokyo and admiring the views in VR. The night lights looked brighter than what I recall from before, somehow. And in the final tunnel, downshift to 2nd and redline that inline 6 one last time. Beautiful.
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@GlockPants That's one hell of a cracking lap!
Like you, I also set myself a 20 lap session. I set a 1:22.47 at lap 18, but unlike you...I crashed out at lap 19 and 20 😖
Figured since I was pretty dialed in to the TT, I would do a few more laps. Manged a 1:22.35 then a .31 one after an other and then crashed in next few laps. I was ready to call it a day but hit restart by accident, so might as well....and I manged this
Optimal is at low 1:21.9s, so sub 22 is possible. That will require a lot of grinding 🙃
@Gomario JSP You might need to revisit this TT 🤣
Like you, I also set myself a 20 lap session. I set a 1:22.47 at lap 18, but unlike you...I crashed out at lap 19 and 20 😖
Figured since I was pretty dialed in to the TT, I would do a few more laps. Manged a 1:22.35 then a .31 one after an other and then crashed in next few laps. I was ready to call it a day but hit restart by accident, so might as well....and I manged this
Optimal is at low 1:21.9s, so sub 22 is possible. That will require a lot of grinding 🙃
@Gomario JSP You might need to revisit this TT 🤣
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Inspired by @GlockPants and @Evilmuffin, I decided to take one more run at this to close out the gap to my optimal splits. I watch Dr Muffin’s lap, and the approach seemed very similar to mine - brake early, nice and smooth, smooth is fast… except he just did it a lot better than me. Having been thrilled yesterday with a 1:22.950, twelve short laps tonight delivered a time that I didn’t really think was possible. Super happy with this…. Officially done. Nismo has had a wipe down and is now back under cover in my garage.
…and I still haven’t moved up my friends leaderboard
…and I still haven’t moved up my friends leaderboard
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@GlockPants That's one hell of a cracking lap!
Like you, I also set myself a 20 lap session. I set a 1:22.47 at lap 18, but unlike you...I crashed out at lap 19 and 20 😖
Figured since I was pretty dialed in to the TT, I would do a few more laps. Manged a 1:22.35 then a .31 one after an other and then crashed in next few laps. I was ready to call it a day but hit restart by accident, so might as well....and I manged this
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Optimal is at low 1:21.9s, so sub 22 is possible. That will require a lot of grinding 🙃
@Gomario JSP You might need to revisit this TT 🤣
Hell NO ...... I aint revisiting this thing, I'm going down fast on my leaderboard with you guys, but even that doesn't motivate me 🤣
Hats of for you guys who keep pushing, normally I'm in...... but this one..... naahh.
Epic time Muffin, you'll get a sub 22 for sure, I'll hold on to my gold this time 🤣
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I had a better look at your sector times on that 1:22.075 and there's a good two tenths to be gained in the first sector alone. And that's the easiest one to keep on trying, 20 seconds and two corners. There are sooo many ways to take T2 especially, I found comfort in entering on 4th gear, turning in with a lift-off and at the the apex doing the upshift to 5th. Getting that right lets one stay fully on the gas through the downhill section. At this stage, I would only go with laps that start with a 20.2xx. I didn't really find the entry to a new lap that difficult, kinda did a very slight Scandinavian flick and power slide through on 3rd gear, and I was more consistant getting it right from a retry. That's why I didn't much do multi-lap stints on this.
Yea, it's actually crazy. Back in the GT6 times, I wasn't very high up in the GT Academy challenges globally, but at least I could get comfort being very close to the national top. Not here, four Finns still faster even after me pulling an actual achievement of a lap.1:21.x. Look at nationality. Yup, checks out!
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I do the lift in forth upshift to fifth, too. I'll have to try out your technique for the last turn, but it's not native to me, being American.
I'm pretty sure my entry speed into T1 is why I'm missing out on those tenths in S1.
I'll give it another go later and see if I can work it out!
Hey @half_sourly maybe it's time I take the plunge and kindly ask to be included in the TT boards. Been a bit hesitant joining since I only do select ones, but maybe that ain't so bad.
Edit: Hope this link to profile works:
Edit: Hope this link to profile works:
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It's always good to be inspired by others, isn't it. It brings you positivity and encouragement to do better. I wish I could have gotten more of that from my family. I've had to be my own parent/coach. It's all up to me. So far, I'm in the 1'32'000's. So I have a good ways to go for a medal.Inspired by @GlockPants and @Evilmuffin, I decided to take one more run at this to close out the gap to my optimal splits. I watch Dr Muffin’s lap, and the approach seemed very similar to mine - brake early, nice and smooth, smooth is fast… except he just did it a lot better than me. Having been thrilled yesterday with a 1:22.950, twelve short laps tonight delivered a time that I didn’t really think was possible. Super happy with this…. Officially done. Nismo has had a wipe down and is now back under cover in my garage.
…and I still haven’t moved up my friends leaderboard
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yeeey.... another Fin above us.....,Hey @half_sourly maybe it's time I take the plunge and kindly ask to be included in the TT boards. Been a bit hesitant joining since I only do select ones, but maybe that ain't so bad.
Edit: Hope this link to profile works:
I think i'm going to emigrate to Finland, maby it helps
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Well, your Dutch ambassador seems to be doing fine in the big boys races. We only have the rally to enjoy at the moment, and of course taking our frustration out on GT7yeeey.... another Fin above us.....,
I think i'm going to emigrate to Finland, maby it helps
Edit: Also, personally I've only been ahead of you every now and then in road car TTs. If it's high downforce cars, you can have them by default
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A slightly longer stint on the Tokyo Expressway yesterday resulted in the one-tenth improvement I was aiming for, even though my S1 time was a tenth slower than my previous record.
My previous record was done using ABS 'Default', but switched to 'Weak' for this session. It allows for more aggressive rotation (which I initially found a bit problematic at this track) and helps carrying more speed through turns. It all comes down to knowing precisely when to release the brakes.
New PB: 1:21.494 (opt. .263).
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One more note on my Tokyo journey. I put together a separate Youtube channel for uploads from GT7 and added my best run. So why not drop it here too. I watched it a couple of times today and really can't find a spot that bothers me, so even though the resident Finnalien @djolliea is trying to give me ideas of tweaking ABS settings, I can't find the passion to improve.
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Had another go at Tokyo. 30 laps this time.
No PB improvement, but my optimals are finally in the 21's.
No PB improvement, but my optimals are finally in the 21's.
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Here are your individual results to date. I'll include you in the results from tomorrow.Hey @half_sourly maybe it's time I take the plunge and kindly ask to be included in the TT boards. Been a bit hesitant joining since I only do select ones, but maybe that ain't so bad.
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Thank you, good sir
As many (all) others, I deeply appreciate your input on this thread!
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I'll get back to it Friday or Saturday, I'm not worried about Interlagos, I think my time of 1'38.831 was really good considering how hard it is to control the AMG car. I gotta figure out how to get a fast time at Tokyo with limited room/track limits. Riding against the wall is not an option.
Does anyone have a ghost or guide using an AT on a controller? Lol, and how do you guys go through Tokyo with those super high speeds and not hit the wall, I'm not having any luck.
Does anyone have a ghost or guide using an AT on a controller? Lol, and how do you guys go through Tokyo with those super high speeds and not hit the wall, I'm not having any luck.
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