Time Trial Discussion

[Barareklam]

@Gomario JSP finally, we do not need to move to Finland, we need FI copy of GT7 and we become instant 👽👽👽👽

 

[Chris30]

But seriously it does get me down, trying to be the perfect child/person is impossible, at least that's how my family raised me was to be good at everything. I was diagnosed with autism at age 3 meaning that some of my skills aren't where they used to be. Plus my health issues prevents me from spending adequate time on here. Let me tell you, life is hard when you're an adult.

We have to go out of town to get our food/water because we're on a specialized diet. Wheat pasta, rice, turkey, baked beans, carrots, etc.

 

[TumeK5]

I was diagnosed with autism at age 3 meaning that some of my skills aren't where they used to be.

You'd be surprised just how many people struggle with racing games despite not being on the autism spectrum. Every human being is unique and have unique skills and knowledge.

But I can relate in the way that racing's the only thing I'm really good at, and even then, I fall short in the pecking order. I'm diagnosed with Aspergers.

But seriously it does get me down, trying to be the perfect child/person is impossible, at least that's how my family raised me was to be good at everything.

You're correct, trying to be the perfect person is impossible. That's simply because perfection does not exist. Only something akin to perfection. That's what we humans try to accomplish, closing the gap to the concept of perfection until you're so close to it it's as though you have achieved perfection: when there is little to no room for improvement. Take Sophy for example - she may have beaten the best GT players in the world, but Sophy herself has a long way to go yet and can still get better.

No one is perfect, but everyone tries to do their best. That's all we can do.

Let me tell you, life is hard when you're an adult.

Sure is. I just turned 28 and I still haven't started working because of my mental health struggles.

 

[Jeje6410]

@Chris30 yes I am French 😉😉

Serge Gainsbourg

 

[half_sourly]

That would be me.
It doesn't have to be separate thread, but a place where we can easily browse past results. Maybe some kind of page like for the WRS Fetchy (RIP) and the WRS results since it's already out of commission. Admins took interest in our little circus recently so maybe would be willing to share some space...

Not sure if you got my message through the other site, but thanks for the sub.

I'll see what I can do, but a forum thread might be easiest, with a post for each TT. There is an enormous amount of data involved in these results. The last TT raw scrape for example was over 11MB, while the final file where I create all the tables and graphs and leaderboard etc., was over 37MB. The RBR movie tie-in one with over 300k drivers was over 71MB... Trying to make more than 50 (and counting) of those searchable and interactive will require more skills than I have.

Hopefully having them in a dedicated forum would make it easier. If there is anything specific on your own results you are interested in, let me know.

EDIT: I meant to add, in a dedicated forum thread there could be an opening post that I update as each TT gets added, to make searching easier.

142,605 participants? That sounds like a lot compared to other time trials.

Around normal for recent TTs. If you look under the Main Table spoiler you'll see it had the 14th most participants and slightly above the running average of 131.1k.

 

[FluxWildly]

On the subject of improvements, someone else (don't have their gtplanet name unfortunately) suggested a separate thread for TT results so that you can easily go back to older results. Watch this space...

I have been thinking about this also. I know when if I don't check the thread for a couple of days I will be pages behind . Is it possible to get get admin to pin a post to the front page for you so that you can add links to your weekly stat posts and they are easily found? Whatever is easiest for you to do works for me👍

 

[tmtk]

Not sure if you got my message through the other site, but thanks for the sub.

Hey, I got you into this extra work on the leaderboards, so it figures I need to back it up!
Besides, it's perfectly deserved. It's way better than I initially imagined.

If there is anything specific on your own results you are interested in, let me know.

Yeah, I would be interested in subtracting a second off my future results🤣🤣🤣

EDIT: I meant to add, in a dedicated forum thread there could be an opening post that I update as each TT gets added, to make searching easier.

That is perfectly understandable and easiest to pull off without investing too much extra time in it.

 

[Jeje6410]

Improve my time in Lake Louise 1'47'324 with optimal time at 1'47'069

 

[Evilmuffin]

More yeeting in the snow. Minor improvement..... optimal at 1:46 flat 🫠

 

[Mira-maki]

Gold! I did it. This took way more effort than usual.

I’m torn between “hope this will hold” and “there is more pace in it for me for sure”

I’m just so incredibly inconsistent on snow that it feels so frustrating trying to improve.

 

[snc]

Briefly checked snow tt, what the hell ;d looks like hardest tt ever for me, so will probably first time pass on it ;d

 

[manou]

1:47 flat, 850 ish and still not gold ? Geez, this TT is really hard. I do this one with the pad, impossible with the wheel for me.

 

[Gogga]

I'm not a fan of this tt. I can't do no Scandinavian Flick tricks and I NEED a handbrake!
1:47.743. Not giving up just yet, but I will settle for silver on this one.

 

[330_D]

I'm not a fan of this tt. I can't do no Scandinavian Flick tricks and I NEED a handbrake!
1:47.743. Not giving up just yet, but I will settle for silver on this one.

I stuff the brake on turn in. Gives initial bite to get the car rotated. While it's not a handbrake, it helps.

 

[Evilmuffin]

Stringing a perfect lap is nearly impossible 🤣 🤣

Many times I would totally nailed turn one only to stuffed it at the final corner. And on the occasion I was 5/10ths slower in the first sector, I would nailed the final sector (like 5/10ths quicker than normal)

Did managed to improve by 2/10ths.

Also.. since I'm somewhat dialed in to rally driving, golded Master S2, S5 and circuit experience for this track.

 

[Gogga]

I stuff the brake on turn in. Gives initial bite to get the car rotated. While it's not a handbrake, it helps.

Will give this a go.

 

[Gomario JSP]

Ran like 30 laps..... only did hit walls.....red laps.... then restarted, ran again and was a lot higher up the banking in T1 .... S1 in .9xx
But that's it for today, my eyes are burning from laptop all day..... ill take a whiskey and relaxe now 🤣, I'll upload tomorrow

This should do the trick for now 🥳

 

[250Cal]

No it does not. That’s the first thing I looked for when starting the TT tonight. No bb either.

BTW I didn't check or remember this but does the Yaris car have the option to tune the wheel drive? I drove the IA-3 or 4 test which had a Subaru car on the Louise track. Changing the ratio of the front or rear power output makes a difference for sure.

Which is bad, right, given that it's in the real car.

 

[PlanetJanet]

Which is bad, right, given that it's in the real car.

Can you ever change these things in TT? I thought the whole point was so that everyone was driving the same car with same settings, don't see what's bad about that? The settings are in the game for that car, as in real life, just not available for the TT.

 

[Nebuc72]

It genuinely doesn't even matter because the leaders have the same disadvantage. Sure, you could go faster if you tuned your BB or torque to a better position, but so could the leaders - so it's back to square one because the gold time would just be lower.

 

[PlanetJanet]

It genuinely doesn't even matter because the leaders have the same disadvantage. Sure, you could go faster if you tuned your BB or torque to a better position, but so could the leaders - so it's back to square one because the gold time would just be lower.

It adds a variable though, it would change things for sure. I quite like that none of that is relevant to TTs, you just get in and drive.

 

[250Cal]

It genuinely doesn't even matter because the leaders have the same disadvantage. Sure, you could go faster if you tuned your BB or torque to a better position, but so could the leaders - so it's back to square one because the gold time would just be lower.

Based on the licence tests, I think it actually levels the playing field as it makes it easier.

 

[Nebuc72]

Based on the licence tests, I think it actually levels the playing field as it makes it easier.

But it's easier for the top players too, so their times are lower, so the gold time is lower.

 

[Mira-maki]

But it's easier for the top players too, so their times are lower, so the gold time is lower.

I think I get what they mean.

Yes top times will improve. But when challenges get easier, the times at the bottom end tend to improve more significantly than those at the top.

Which is why in combos that are easier to drive (Gr. 4 at Sardegna for example) more people managed to get a Gold time than on average because it was easier, despite the top having the same “advantage”.

However. I am not sure that would necessarily be the same in this case with adjustable BB etc. Because tuning that to best suit your needs is a skill in and of itself.

 

[250Cal]

I think I get what they mean.

Yes top times will improve. But when challenges get easier, the times at the bottom end tend to improve more significantly than those at the top.

Which is why in combos that are easier to drive (Gr. 4 at Sardegna for example) more people managed to get a Gold time than on average because it was easier, despite the top having the same “advantage”.

However. I am not sure that would necessarily be the same in this case with adjustable BB etc. Because tuning that to best suit your needs is a skill in and of itself.

Correct

And I'm just talking about the torque split, not BB (as the road car doesn't have that).

[Could also go onto TCS, Stability control etc being on cars that don't have it in reality]

 

[Mira-maki]

Correct

And I'm just talking about the torque split, not BB (as the road car doesn't have that).

[Could also go onto TCS, Stability control etc being on cars that don't have it in reality]

Noted. But my comment about tuning the setting being a skill applies regardless.

TCS etc are a bit weird, because GT7 treats those more like difficulty/accessibility settings than replicating actual features of the cars. Although in those that have it IRL, it is kind of both.

 

[250Cal]

Noted. But my comment about tuning the setting being a skill applies regardless.

TCS etc are a bit weird, because GT7 treats those more like difficulty/accessibility settings than replicating actual features of the cars. Although in those that have it IRL, it is kind of both.

Agree 💯

 

[330_D]

I've got it in me to get back into gold. I feel like there is a lot of time I'm leaving that I'm capable of. I've been ahead of the WR ghost on numerous occasions through different sections. If I can ever tie a good one together!

If you look at the screenshot there is an invalidated 46.5where I got a penalty on the previous lap and didn't restart because I was dialed in, but the penalty carried. I hate that. 😂😂😂

 

[ScottPuss20]

Around normal for recent TTs. If you look under the Main Table spoiler you'll see it had the 14th most participants and slightly above the running average of 131.1k.

Wow I haven't been paying attention at all.

 

[Dolph Drago]

Ugh. I cannot get a handle on Lake Louise. 1:47.782 and well off gold, almost a second in fact. Not counting the Olympic TT (which I was at least still within 3%), I can't remember the last time I missed gold. I don't know where I'm going to pick up the necessary time to get out of silver. I'm super inconsistent. At certain times, the car plows like a dump truck. Others, I'm completely sideways. And if I make the slightest of adjustments to correct a slide, my car suddenly grips like hell in the opposite direction and makes a beeline towards the outside wall. And don't even get me started on the bollards...