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It’s not that I don’t enjoy Gr3, but I always get the feeling that it lacks some imagination on PD’s behalf. If they wanted a US themed event this week to celebrate Thanksgiving, they could have selected the Chaparral 2J or Ford GT40 (or something similar) - instead Gr3 feels like they forgot about it until the last minute. Oh well, will be nice to be done with the snow 😂
 
It is very nice being part of this thread :)
Many great people and skilled drivers helping each others and giving advices, brake earlier, use 4th gear and so on...
Thank you @seadog777 for making it and thanks to everyone here for nice comments.
Recently I read "everyone got alien", "have aliens invaded earth", and similar and I think our master of statistics @half_sourly contributed with leaderboards, graphs, numbers... to all of us to push a tenth more, push one more time, push last time and look... 👽 everywhere 👽 :D

Thank you all, see you on next TT, whatever gr 3 car now it is :)

( ah yes, reminder to self, now you can play on Daytona too, snow one is over :) )
 
This is the earliest I’ve ever jumped on a TT.

Most appear to be going with M6 or BRZ. I chose the AMG. Early days still but top 3% and top 300.

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Now I just have to figure out how not to lose time on the last corner. It’s about 50/30/20 as to if I go off, lose a second or get a decent run…
 
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It's getting annoying seeing more and more aliens preventing uploading their replays. Not because I have any hope in hell of beating their ghost, but because I like watching WR laps and keeping the really special ones for reference. It should only be a few lines of code to invalidate a time from the leaderboards when their replay fails to upload (yes sometimes there is a genuine internet issue preventing an upload, but it's rare).

In any case, insane lap by L-Shooter. Once again absolutely destroyed everyone else who have been grinding for 2 weeks in the last dying moments. Some say he is The Stig's Japanese cousin, others say he's the only thing Sophy feared :P All we know, he has a perfect K' score on kudosprime :crazy:

I miss some of the old aliens like TRL_IMMORTAL, Ti-tech and of course Hizal and Fraga too. Imagine them duking it out with Shooter and Jeddah in this TT. Maybe PD could train a Sophy every week too and have a platinum reward (4 million?) for those who beat the time.
 
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This is the earliest I’ve ever jumped on a TT.

Most appear to be going with M6 or BRZ. I chose the AMG. Early days still but top 3% and top 300.

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Now I just have to figure out how not to lose time on the last corner. It’s about 50/30/20 as to if I go off, lose a second or get a decent run…
I know that many here dislike Gr.3 and it really isn't something new or exciting. But I like to choose different cars to keep my motivation high and improve my driving. Any track is welcome as long as it is not made of ice and snow... See you all in the sand! 🏜️
 
<politically correct> I am so excited to see that this combination has been chosen. I can't wait to get on the track, drive to the limit, and fight my way to gold </politically correct>

<what I really think>but holy crap, this freaking track I can't stomach on the Jeep, let alone with the Gr3. I'll spend most of my time plowing fields. I won't get out of the bronze </what I really think>
 
It’s not that I don’t enjoy Gr3, but I always get the feeling that it lacks some imagination on PD’s behalf. If they wanted a US themed event this week to celebrate Thanksgiving, they could have selected the Chaparral 2J or Ford GT40 (or something similar) - instead Gr3 feels like they forgot about it until the last minute. Oh well, will be nice to be done with the snow 😂
I agree. When I saw Big Willow with RH tyres, I was hoping for this combo to return!
 
It’s not that I don’t enjoy Gr3, but I always get the feeling that it lacks some imagination on PD’s behalf. If they wanted a US themed event this week to celebrate Thanksgiving, they could have selected the Chaparral 2J or Ford GT40 (or something similar) - instead Gr3 feels like they forgot about it until the last minute. Oh well, will be nice to be done with the snow 😂
You could always do what @Fezzik has suggested (and what I'm going to do) and stick with American cars for this, for a bit of Gr.3 variation. I barely use my Gr.3 cars with USA origins, so it'll be interesting to break them out and I might even buy a couple of the expensive Fords I've not yet got round to buying... But I agree it could have been nice to have some of the legend cars or something as a one-make instead.

I'll work my way through:

Chev Corvette Gr.3
Dodge Viper Gr.3
Ford GT LM Race Car
Ford GT LM Spec II
Ford GT Race Car '18
Ford Mustang Gr.3

I feel like the Corvette and Mustang are likely to be the quickest of that bunch.
 
I agree. When I saw Big Willow with RH tyres, I was hoping for this combo to return!
Wow... mate.. that was... P1 WR :bowdown:

You could always do what @Fezzik has suggested (and what I'm going to do) and stick with American cars for this, for a bit of Gr.3 variation. I barely use my Gr.3 cars with USA origins, so it'll be interesting to break them out and I might even buy a couple of the expensive Fords I've not yet got round to buying... But I agree it could have been nice to have some of the legend cars or something as a one-make instead.

I'll work my way through:

Chev Corvette Gr.3
Dodge Viper Gr.3
Ford GT LM Race Car
Ford GT LM Spec II
Ford GT Race Car '18
Ford Mustang Gr.3

I feel like the Corvette and Mustang are likely to be the quickest of that bunch.
Are you thinking what I am thinking... that you and @Fezzik will have 24 hours to pick one of those 6 cars listed above and challenge rest of members of this community in side TT, same but with the car you two picked? 😲

( hey hey I am at work and haven't tested any of it yet, maybe it is bad idea, maybe it is good idea, I can have my own ideas right :D ) press like if you like idea, press poo if you do not like it :) and we will see...
 
Here are some statistics for TT55 at Lake Louise Long Track in the Toyota GR Yaris 1st Edition RZ "High performance" '20.

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  • So that was a tough one, thanks to a late appearance by L-Shooter, setting a time 0.4 seconds ahead of 2nd place.
  • At 0.96%, this is the first time that less than 1% of drivers got gold in a normal TT. Only 0.83% of drivers got gold in the Olympic event, but there the gold threshold was 1.5%, not 3%. The next lowest TT gold proportion was Nürburgring Nordschleife in the tuned Honda NSX Type R '02 with 1.3%.
  • Only Nürburgring Nordschleife in the tuned Honda produced a lower proportion of drivers getting either silver or gold, at 5.78%. For the current TT that was 6.32%.
  • 53.28% of drivers got no reward - there have been only three TTs with higher proportions of drivers getting no reward - The Nordschleife one (75.74%), Laguna Seca in the tuned Mustang (60.71%) and Road Atlanta in the X2019 Red Bull (59.32%).
  • All that difficulty did not stop @Todt @specops @JRFrench @GlockPants @Gogga @Hiropairippu @330_D @Dep Fishtail and @Eggstor getting personal best finishing positions, and for the first three of those their first top 100 finishes. 👏

I have limited time today, so have not processed any of the improvement suggestions yet - will do so for future TTs.


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Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs dropped from 103 to 79.

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Interim Results for TT56 at Daytona Road Course in the Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) '22.

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Are you thinking what I am thinking... that you and @Fezzik will have 24 hours to pick one of those 6 cars listed above and challenge rest of members of this community in side TT, same but with the car you two picked? 😲

( hey hey I am at work and haven't tested any of it yet, maybe it is bad idea, maybe it is good idea, I can have my own ideas right :D ) press like if you like idea, press poo if you do not like it :) and we will see...
I like the sound of that! @Fezzik you mentioned the Viper. I'm happy to put some miles on my Viper - always had a soft spot for it!

Or do we wanna be bold and go for the dark horse that's actually fairly useless: the Ford GT '18??

What we thinking??
 
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Are you thinking what I am thinking... that you and @Fezzik will have 24 hours to pick one of those 6 cars listed above and challenge rest of members of this community in side TT, same but with the car you two picked? 😲
Let’s be honest here. I could do hours of TTs a day for the whole 2 weeks to set a time, and you guys would beat it on lap 1.
 
You never know. It took hours for me to drop .05 seconds a few days ago. I got on today and ran a 1:46.1 in just a few laps. The only thing that hurt me on that run was a poor sector 1. Less than 10 laps later I happened to nail turn 1 (and didn't completely screw up the rest of the lap) and dropped my time down to 1:45.640 as shown in my post above. So, it is possible.
Congrats. Had similar issues where I didn't improve for days and it started to click last minute. Improved to 46.0xx with opt of 45.8xx on my last effort, but couldn't string it together at 3am last night :/
 
You could always do what @Fezzik has suggested (and what I'm going to do) and stick with American cars for this, for a bit of Gr.3 variation. I barely use my Gr.3 cars with USA origins, so it'll be interesting to break them out and I might even buy a couple of the expensive Fords I've not yet got round to buying... But I agree it could have been nice to have some of the legend cars or something as a one-make instead.

I'll work my way through:

Chev Corvette Gr.3
Dodge Viper Gr.3
Ford GT LM Race Car
Ford GT LM Spec II
Ford GT Race Car '18
Ford Mustang Gr.3

I feel like the Corvette and Mustang are likely to be the quickest of that bunch.
Tried out the 4 of them I actually have in my garage ...5 laps each for a starter

The GT Spec II was the fastest( 1:17,385 so far, but there is plenty of room for improvement I guess,silver is not completly unrealistic), the Viper was quick, but also very quick to go offroad(got one valid lap out of 5), the Vette was similiar to the Viper, but at least for me more controllable and the Mustang was a little bit behind(but also the first try, so i wasn't used to the track as much as with the later cars...)

I guess I stay with those american cars for that TT and see what is possible...
 
I thought all Swedes were born with a rally car in their mouth and the ability to tail slide around in the snow. Or is that only the Fins?
Mostly applies to Finns, I'd say. :D

Anyway, it was painful but I did manage dig out my inner Scandinavian and do what I set out to do in the end. A 1'44. First a .9 but it was kinda scruffy and not long after came a 1'44.616. A little too slow and wide through T2/3, dropped down to 94 km/h but apart from that the rest was really quite nice and clean. +0,420 over the whole lap on my fellow Swede and friend Erazer when I was already +0,286 behind at split one underlines that.

Tricky combination though. A P42 was beyond my expectations here so I can't complain!

 
Tried out the 4 of them I actually have in my garage ...5 laps each for a starter

The GT Spec II was the fastest( 1:17,385 so far, but there is plenty of room for improvement I guess,silver is not completly unrealistic), the Viper was quick, but also very quick to go offroad(got one valid lap out of 5), the Vette was similiar to the Viper, but at least for me more controllable and the Mustang was a little bit behind(but also the first try, so i wasn't used to the track as much as with the later cars...)

I guess I stay with those american cars for that TT and see what is possible...
I used the Vette for one of the GTWS series this year - very nice and controllable, very slow (compared to the rest of Gr3). Sadly the Mustang does seem to be overshadowed by the GTs, maybe that would change if we could ever get the new one.

I can probably get a decent silver with the LM Race, GT 18 & Vette, but I'm just drawn to the Viper. Never really used it much despite the road car being my childhood favourite. There's something about an 8 litre V10 that gives me the fizz.
 
Tipped my toes at the new TT at Big Willow, with the M6. Well into bronze on my second lap. Silver may be at reach, gold seems far. I'll try other Gr.3 as I am not found of the M6.

I'll give another go(s) after the weekly event is dusted (which won't take long, I only have the last of the 5 to do).
 
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