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First try in Deep Forest and get gold with 1'46'485 in 110 kms. Very happy with new sensations with DS5 !!!!

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I ran 10 laps at the Kyoto track and it is actually easier the other way around, see in the CE they have the track in it's normal position which would be harder during this TT so I'm thankful that the developers chose this layout. I got my time down to 1'21.638 so there is still a lot of things that I need to tweak and find a workaround to so my speed can go up and I can tackle most of the corners in a quick fashion.

So, can I ask this? Does anyone have a replay of an AT using a controller. I'm sure there are plenty of high up skilled controller players out there waiting to break record lows on a daily basis. Lol, I'll be sidetracked with this till it ends so Deep Forest will have to be put on the back burner.
 
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Gomario JSP
So yesterday i was on the PS Remote app and was frustrated to the bone it just didn't work and got stuck at 1:46.88x
This morning wanted to do a normal session before work and instantly felt the difference, this one is just not for the Remote, just to much delay.

I must say i do love the feel of the car, and indeed @Barareklam those haptics do tell you a lot of information!
The fact that you can feel the wheelspin starting realy helps a lot on this drift mission :lol:

But man..... what the hell is up with that last corner??, if i take exactly the same line as Ebrahim i'm 100% understeering back to Kyoto Yamagiwa....... It already took several good laps and created so much frustration already!!, it's like i can only rotate there with sort of a drift, which coast like a gazillion amount of time.

And for some reason this is the worst TT for my hands/arms........ i'm exhausted after 1 hour and all crapmed up.... and i'm a freaking controller :lol::lol::lol:

btw.... i took al look at the leaderboard this morning...., what in the h*ll??......, somany in the low 45??? now already?? :lol::lol:
@Dolph Drago ease up mate.... give me a chance at least :lol:
@Evilmuffin ..... now you deserve a big 💩 already..... one day and directly in the top 100 :bowdown:, well done mate!

The best i could do was a 1:45.288 at place 146 this morning, not a bad start, but not great either when i see my leaderboard :banghead::lol:


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Hey guess what, I achieved bronze at Kyoto, 1'21.638. It only took 10 laps to get it done! I will post the video later.
 
Slight morning improvement with the Shelby at 1:47.606 🥈 on Deep Forest.

Currently, I'm stuck in a range between 1:47.6xx and 1:47.9xx with an optimal just below 1:47.6xx. If I want to get the yellow reward, I must gain 0.7xx sec minimum (1 sec would be safier).

My first sector is mainly around 0:31.xxx which is far from optimal :confused:
My second sector is also very "medium" as I arrive at the 2nd tunnel in 1:09.5 / 1:10.xxx :indiff:

I must keep pushing and keep working thanks to your videos and all your advices :bowdown:
 
Pesselles
Slight morning improvement with the Shelby at 1:47.606 🥈 on Deep Forest.

Currently, I'm stuck in a range between 1:47.6xx and 1:47.9xx with an optimal just below 1:47.6xx. If I want to get the yellow reward, I must gain 0.7xx sec minimum (1 sec would be safier).

My first sector is mainly around 0:31.xxx which is far from optimal :confused:
My second sector is also very "medium" as I arrive at the 2nd tunnel in 1:09.5 / 1:10.xxx :indiff:

I must keep pushing and keep working thanks to your videos and all your advices :bowdown:
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Share your lap here and we will help and drag you into the gold zone 🤪
 
Gomario JSP
So yesterday i was on the PS Remote app and was frustrated to the bone it just didn't work and got stuck at 1:46.88x
This morning wanted to do a normal session before work and instantly felt the difference, this one is just not for the Remote, just to much delay.
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so....make me understand if I got it right...
You drive remotely, complain about lag, and put a gold.

Do you understand that this chain of information is not good for the Sunday driver self-esteem in me?!? 🤕

Getting serious again:
I don't even consider even the possibility of trying remote on GT, but when I do on other games the connection drops quite regularly, indicating a lack of available bandwidth.
I don't have a space router, but I don't have a junk one either. Is there any wizardry I can do to be able to use remote regularly?
 
zjn
so....make me understand if I got it right...
You drive remotely, complain about lag, and put a gold.

Do you understand that this chain of information is not good for the Sunday driver self-esteem in me?!? 🤕

Getting serious again:
I don't even consider even the possibility of trying remote on GT, but when I do on other games the connection drops quite regularly, indicating a lack of available bandwidth.
I don't have a space router, but I don't have a junk one either. Is there any wizardry I can do to be able to use remote regularly?
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🤣🤣, didn't mean to lower that self esteem mate!, and def. not the case, i can tell you i'm often on Remote, i have a fiber connection and almost always it's quite strong and very usable 1080 resolution, i would say i only have like a few dips per session ( which can be very annoying in a fast lap indeed ), but most of the time it's fine and doesn't realy make a difference in golding things.

But some cars are harder than others, just that, the delay on Remote is minimal, but it's there.

So maby it's my connection?, i checked and have Fiber 200mbit.
 
Gomario JSP
🤣🤣, didn't mean to lower that self esteem mate!, and def. not the case, i can tell you i'm often on Remote, i have a fiber connection and almost always it's quite strong and very usable 1080 resolution, i would say i only have like a few dips per session ( which can be very annoying in a fast lap indeed ), but most of the time it's fine and doesn't realy make a difference in golding things.

But some cars are harder than others, just that, the delay on Remote is minimal, but it's there.

So maby it's my connection?, i checked and have Fiber 200mbit.
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🤣🤣🤣 yes, sure, i know, i'm happy about what people in this community is achieving, myself included. The GTP legion is ruling in each ranking section the global standings

Why do you mention your internet bandwidht? I was under the impression that only intranet bandwidht was important for remote, assuming that ps5 and the remote client are on the same home network.

If external bandwidht is involved than that is the smoking gun for me
 
zjn
🤣🤣🤣 yes, sure, i know, i'm happy about what people in this community is achieving, myself included. The GTP legion is ruling in each ranking section the global standings

Why do you mention your internet bandwidht? I was under the impression that only intranet bandwidht was important for remote, assuming that ps5 and the remote client are on the same home network.

If external bandwidht is involved than that is the smoking gun for me
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I don't know what's all involved when playing remote, but i could imagine that the stregnth of the wifi has sometimes a limitation when on the same network, but there should be something else at part too cause i'm remoting from my work too sometimes.

I'll investigate :) :)

or maby someone has some facts about this?
 
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Bandwidth usually is not an issue if you are playing remotely in your home network...but latency and package lost can be an issue. Aside from GT7, I play the rest of my ps5 using the remote app on my tablet. Vast majority of time it is pretty darn good but do suffer resolution/frame lost or short freeze once in a while.

The app basically just stream your ps5 output to the app. But unlike streaming regular videos, it doesn't get the benefit of buffering. Most of the time not a problem at home......but if you want to play remotely like in a hotel with crappy speed, you will see major lost in resolution and frame rate.

Also.....haptic feed back doesn't work on remote play.
 
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Using PS Remote Play on your own network is affected by what WiFi frequency your remote play device (and, if it is also connected by WiFi rather than Ethernet, PS) is on and the distance from the router (or repeater). The further away, the slower (and less reliable) the connection, and if you're on the 2.4 GHz network, the best that gets is 54 Mbps. PS Remote Play absolutely requires 5 Mbps for both download and upload, and prefers at least 15 Mbps, which can be a problem if you're well away from the router and there are multiple objects between the device and the router.

Further, if your device is on the fringe of the shorter 5 GHz/6 GHz network range (which is not only shorter, but less able to go through objects like walls and ceilings), it could be bouncing between frequencies, and it takes time to reconnect to the new frequency. There also is random interference, more prevalent on the 2.4 GHz network.

Away from home, it's worse because of several factors. First, many people don't have 15 Mbps upload speed at home (for example, me - my ISP's advertised speeds are 300 Mbps down/10 Mbps up). Then, there's the speed of the remote internet (again, the fault is usually the upload speed).

Finally, there's latency because, as @Evilmuffin pointed out, there is no buffering. About the best you can hope for is 30-45 ms, which really is 60-90 ms (or 0.06-0.09 seconds) because latency happens in both directions. Given a frame rendered at 60 Hz takes 0.0167 seconds, that's 4-6 frames that are rendered between making a control input and seeing the effect (which itself is already 2-3 frames old by the time you see it).

It gets worse on mobile data, especially if you're not near the tower providing the data.
 
Eggstor
Using PS Remote Play on your own network is affected by what WiFi frequency your remote play device (and, if it is also connected by WiFi rather than Ethernet, PS) is on and the distance from the router (or repeater). The further away, the slower (and less reliable) the connection, and if you're on the 2.4 GHz network, the best that gets is 54 Mbps. PS Remote Play absolutely requires 5 Mbps for both download and upload, and prefers at least 15 Mbps, which can be a problem if you're well away from the router and there are multiple objects between the device and the router.

Further, if your device is on the fringe of the shorter 5 GHz/6 GHz network range (which is not only shorter, but less able to go through objects like walls and ceilings), it could be bouncing between frequencies, and it takes time to reconnect to the new frequency. There also is random interference, more prevalent on the 2.4 GHz network.

Away from home, it's worse because of several factors. First, many people don't have 15 Mbps upload speed at home (for example, me - my ISP's advertised speeds are 300 Mbps down/10 Mbps up). Then, there's the speed of the remote internet (again, the fault is usually the upload speed).

Finally, there's latency because, as @Evilmuffin pointed out, there is no buffering. About the best you can hope for is 30-45 ms, which really is 60-90 ms (or 0.06-0.09 seconds) because latency happens in both directions. Given a frame rendered at 60 Hz takes 0.0167 seconds, that's 4-6 frames that are rendered between making a control input and seeing the effect (which itself is already 2-3 frames old by the time you see it).

It gets worse on mobile data, especially if you're not near the tower providing the data.
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Thanks for the inside eggstor, that is quite some usefull info!!
And the lag is now a bit understandable 😁

@Evilmuffin thanks for the info, this is realy bad but I have never noticed there is no haptic on remote?! .... 🤣🤣

Maby that's why this latest timetrial is so hard on remote?!
 
Did the hour mission race GR.4 this morning and had great fun with that! Decided to come check this classic GT350 out a pure beauty, but had to adjust the first 10 laps to the different chassis(One of the reason why GT is the best because of the variety of vehicles and challenging we have) Once I got use to the classic American muscle she rewarded me with a decent lap… at least for me lol! Does anyone else do these in cockpit view? It’s the only view I use.. I know people don’t like it but I really enjoy the view.

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Bye, Kyoto! I'm hanging this one up. Gold is secure, I'm sure. But after no improvement yesterday and only 0.006 improvement today, I can't take this combo any longer. Even though my optimals are consistently about 0.2 seconds quicker from each stint, the chicanes make me feel like I'm rolling dice every time.

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Good riddance!
 
Gomario JSP
@Dolph Drago ease up mate.... give me a chance at least :lol:
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As you said, it's one day in. :lol:
Barareklam
Please confirm if I remember correctly, you are using Square button to accelerate, right? If that is the case than your time is more insane than it is, you are pure 👽
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Close! Indeed, I do use the buttons for gas and brake instead of triggers. But it's X for gas, Square for brake. :D I figure I would probably be a wee bit faster if I switched it up. It's just been ingrained in my brain after 30 years of playing the same way! :P
 
@Dolph Drago your pace with the buttons is astonishing.

Are they sensitive such that you can have a bit of throttle control or is it only digital on/off? Do you tap the buttons repeatedly to get the desired amount of throttle? Is trail braking possible at all?

I'm really intrigued by the logistics of using the buttons.

I started the series over 20 years ago with GT3 on the PS2. I remember how I started switching to using the right stick for throttle and brake pretty much immediately and how much better it worked for me.
 

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