Time Trial Discussion

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Just watched @Tidgney 's video - it is so different then I'm doing.
I hope so I I'll remember this while driving, it is obvious help from our great man Tidgney!
Absolutly agree and I clearly got the gold on this TT thanks to his video. I gained a lot of tens and you will gain a lot too.
The track is short and you have just few sensitive parts to memorize on his video.
GO GO GO !!

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Wow, this is putting some pressure!!!
Great stuff, I'm off the ps today, hopefully will give it a try tomorrow. You stop there please 😉
Naaa, first you'll need some laps to be familiar with the track but very soon, you'll be able to score similar (or faster) times :)
In case you need more motivation, you're italian and this TT stands in your country!!

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What a fun little challenge this is, had a little remote session and getting to know the track, the downhill lefthander is a real b*tch, no idea what line I have to be on 🤣, but that civic has some real bite! Love it!,

Had a descent banker with 1:28.409 with quite a sloppy lap, so from here we build, another session tomorrow morning 😁

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That's a descent starting session you managed there! @330_D 🫡, insane time already! Nice job!
 
What a fun little challenge this is, had a little remote session and getting to know the track, the downhill lefthander is a real b*tch, no idea what line I have to be on 🤣, but that civic has some real bite! Love it!,

Had a descent banker with 1:28.409 with quite a sloppy lap, so from here we build, another session tomorrow morning 😁

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That's a descent starting session you managed there! @330_D 🫡, insane time already! Nice job!
Your car needs some VTEC stickers....definitely worth a few 10ths. :dunce:
 
Done my usual 10 laps at the new TT, and to my big surprise, I am already in silver ! While I was still figuring my braking points and driving like a drunk on some turns. First (valid) lap was bronze.

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I enjoy this combo, I need more practice and maybe a lap guide to get a better undestanding of what I am supposed to do in some corners

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So I decided to go with @Tidgney strategy - and cut 0.7s!

New PB is 1:28.712!



Great feeling and thanks Tidgney!

Very honestly: RES-PECT! Your lap is super clean, super fast, super smooth.
Clearly 0:27.6xx on the 1st sector, that's really impressive!
You can probably gain some others tens on few turns (1:04 & 1:23) where I have the feeling to be a little bit faster.
 
... Awaits this evening when @Gomario JSP posts a blistering gold time after not knowing the track
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What a fun little challenge this is, had a little remote session and getting to know the track, the downhill lefthander is a real b*tch, no idea what line I have to be on 🤣, but that civic has some real bite! Love it!,

Had a descent banker with 1:28.409 with quite a sloppy lap, so from here we build, another session tomorrow morning 😁

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That's a descent starting session you managed there! @330_D 🫡, insane time already! Nice job!
I think that I am in the wrong profession, I may need to become a psychic and then try to predict the lottery and become a millionaire 😂
 
I was thinking of inverting my pedals but would need to make some amendments to my rig (GTOmega Classic) but then I'm also tempted to get a Coffee Racer rig as I'll probably use the wheel more again then.
My appartement isn't tiny by any means. But there is no way that I will ever get a full blown rig. Coffee table foldable rig sounds like something that is at least in the realm of possibilities.
… One day if the daughter is out of the house ...it's manecave time..... …
For some reason I was convinced that you didn't have kids. 'How else on earth does this guy find the time to be this fast. These DINK people with all their money and free time …'
I'm in gold by a whooping 2 thousands. Guess I should take another stab.
Probably won't do NGP/RX-8 because I hate the track more than I hate a wasp flying into my ear canal.
This is just an example but I think it is hilarious how far the opinions on tracks diverge. I personally love Nurb GP. I mean I have heard people say they hate Suzuka before. Anything is possible I guess.
Aliens improved, well I improved too …
That's the spirit!!!
 
My appartement isn't tiny by any means. But there is no way that I will ever get a full blown rig. Coffee table foldable rig sounds like something that is at least in the realm of possibilities.
I have a Next Level GT Lite foldable. It works pretty well and it is "foldable"....but probably not something I want to do everytime I play. It is more like "you can fold it if you need to".
 
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Trial Mountain was fun although frustrating at times early. Then it became just downright frustrating. I don't think I had any fun trying to get into the 51's on the final two days. The best I could manage was a handful of 52.1's over a couple hundred miles, none of which topped my previous 52.0. :grumpy:

I'm seeing speak of Turtle racers. Ya know, there was once a league here on GTPlanet called the Turtle Racing League. I even helped run it for a while. It wasn't just slowpokes, though. ;) It was a great mix of all skill levels. One guy was an up and coming dirt tracker. And unknowingly to us until later, a driver joined us for an endurance race at the Indy Road Course. He turned out to be one of the 1st season GT Academy racers. I finished second and got LAPPED by him! :boggled:

Anyway, on to the new TT. I'm not sure if I'll have the patience for it for long. I just know it's going to drive (no pun intended) me nuts not being able to put a lap together without mistakes. I'm like many here on that downhill left hander. No idea where to brake, where to turn in, when to get on the gas. I never take it the same way two laps in a row. And that's not for lack of trying! The Nurb is calling my name right now. I need to get back there, because I know there is still a good chunk of time for me to pick up before I feel the desire to chuck my controller into the atmosphere. :lol:
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I almost never get onto the TTs until the last minute. Decided to try this one right away, and pretty happy with the early results.

Ran about 10 laps to get used to the track and the car, then another 10 and turned in this time. I'm not a fast as a lot of guys on this forum, but this is a pretty good result for me. I don't think I've ever cracked the top 1,000 before so that will be my goal for this TT, although I'm guessing the only reason I'm close now is because it's early days :).

I really enjoy the combo, so I can see myself putting in a little time. Haven't even tried chasing a ghost yet, which usually helps me correct some mistakes and gain some time.

We'll see. :)

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Absolutly agree and I clearly got the gold on this TT thanks to his video. I gained a lot of tens and you will gain a lot too.
The track is short and you have just few sensitive parts to memorize on his video.
GO GO GO !!


Naaa, first you'll need some laps to be familiar with the track but very soon, you'll be able to score similar (or faster) times :)
In case you need more motivation, you're italian and this TT stands in your country!!

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Hey, I'm at 2'27.054 at the Ring, the Mazda RX8 is a chore to handle, but I've been hanging in there. I'm aiming for silver.
 
Went back out to Lake Maggiore and ran another 10 laps chasing @Tidgney 's ghost, and then turned in this time, which exceeded even my wildest expectations. I've never been anywhere near this high in the rankings before. Even though I'm sure I'll drop a few hundred places (at least) before the finish, I'm speechless.

Ran another 10 laps and couldn't beat it, so time to stop for today. I have a feeling that even with almost a full 2 weeks remaining, I won't be able to top this time.

Maybe I should go out and try the RX-7 race at Nurb GP. Didn't even try that one yet, but it's a car I enjoy on a track I know well.

Good luck all!

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Went back out to Lake Maggiore and ran another 10 laps chasing @Tidgney 's ghost, and then turned in this time, which exceeded even my wildest expectations. I've never been anywhere near this high in the rankings before. Even though I'm sure I'll drop a few hundred places (at least) before the finish, I'm speechless.

Ran another 10 laps and couldn't beat it, so time to stop for today. I have a feeling that even with almost a full 2 weeks remaining, I won't be able to top this time.

Maybe I should go out and try the RX-7 race at Nurb GP. Didn't even try that one yet, but it's a car I enjoy on a track I know well.

Good luck all!

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Great time!
I'm thinking same for my time too, will I be able to improve, gold is secured and there must be a good reason for further motivation.
But I will run it more, I know.

Too bad there is no Civic to buy, though I must rent it and I don't know how many kilometers I ran in TT.
Game is still not counting time spent in TT for time driven, at least not at me.
 
This ia a better lap. However, I sorely lack consistency in 2nd sector. I still have no idea how to take that downhill banked left....can't figure out where the minimum speed point is.
This is honey to my ears, nice to know than even aliens don't know everything and can struggle on the same turns as I do 😁
I'm seeing speak of Turtle racers. Ya know, there was once a league here on GTPlanet called the Turtle Racing League. I even helped run it for a while. It wasn't just slowpokes, though. ;) It was a great mix of all skill levels. One guy was an up and coming dirt tracker. And unknowingly to us until later, a driver joined us for an endurance race at the Indy Road Course. He turned out to be one of the 1st season GT Academy racers. I finished second and got LAPPED by him! :boggled:
Ahah excellent 😄
 
Latest guide for you! Love this car and track, although I've always been fond of Lago Maggiore Reverse layouts haha! Enjoy!


My comments on the difficulty rating breakdown in your video description:

- Lap Length: A longer lap means an easier gold time as the % increases. Think of it like interest rates, the higher the savings amount the larger the amount you get (So the larger the time leeway). Anything with a 3/4 second window I would class as easier not necessarily easy. This is due to the fact there will be more straights, number of corners rarely changes much.
My take: while it's true you have more leeway with a longer lap, there are also a lot more corners to get right. The TTs we had on Nordschleife and St Croix were one of the hardest to get gold for me. Having said that, I only had 1 bronze ever and it's the dastardly X2019 at Road Atlanta. Sub 1 minute lap means there's zero margin for error. So I guess it could go both ways.

- How hard a car is to drive. So do you have to do exceptional things to get gold. Does it oversteer all the time, does it do huge understeer so you're having to do alternative things.
My take: agree with this. Though I would also broadly classify road cars as being harder for the general population compared to race cars. Lots of people are used to driving just Gr.3/4 that when you put them in road cars with comfort/sport tyres, soft suspension and no downforce they struggle. Although for me it's the opposite and I struggle with higher downforce cars like LMP and Super Formula, this guide is meant for general players so I think road car combos would have a higher difficulty rating. Also certain cars might favour some drivers' style more. I know you're a specialist with the R8 LMS back in GT Sport but I cannot drive that car to save my life because of the lift off oversteer.

- Penalties and track limits. So barriers close to the track I would class as harder, places where you can cut easier.
My take: again I'm the opposite of this. I find it easier to get close to the limit at Tokyo than places like Maggiore/Sarthe because it's clear where the boundaries are. I tend to drive in a conservative manner and I hate cutting kerbs that would DSQ a lap in real life. I guess it's easier for someone who has no qualms abusing track limits, but having to memorise which pixel I can/cannot cross on entry/apex/exit is more difficult for me than not touching walls.

- How easy it was for me to get close to Rank 1
My take: agree, although again you're an alien and most of us are not :lol:

- I would add also wet and rally combos tend to be more difficult for most people, but I guess this can fall under the "how hard is the car" category.

- Controller input/driving aids that people use can make a big difference. Cars that need precision are harder to gold with controller. Some cars need funky gear shifts and if you drive with AT it's gonna be a problem.

You're a much much better driver than I could ever hope to be, so this isn't meant in a condescending tone, but I think it's best to just remove the Gold difficulty rating altogether to avoid giving people false hope :lol: Obviously a Fiat 500 around an oval is gonna be easier than an old 911 around the Nordschleife, but for everything in between there are just too many variables to rate. Different skill levels, people's preference for road cars vs race cars, people's familiarity with certain tracks, etc. Don't underestimate also human's brain expectations - some people see a road car combo with easy difficulty and expect a walk in the park, but they drive a first lap and understeer everywhere and get discouraged quickly. Meanwhile a Gr.1 combo might be technically harder but because they love driving it they have an easier time getting gold.

My 2 cents :) Been following your guides since GT Academy days and even though now I don't really need them as much I still watch every video religiously 👍
 
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My appartement isn't tiny by any means. But there is no way that I will ever get a full blown rig. Coffee table foldable rig sounds like something that is at least in the realm of possibilities.

For some reason I was convinced that you didn't have kids. 'How else on earth does this guy find the time to be this fast. These DINK people with all their money and free time …'

I'm in gold by a whooping 2 thousands. Guess I should take another stab.

This is just an example but I think it is hilarious how far the opinions on tracks diverge. I personally love Nurb GP. I mean I have heard people say they hate Suzuka before. Anything is possible I guess.

That's the spirit!!!
:lol: :lol: yes, 41, kids.... wife.... busy life, working as an architect 5 days a week from 8:30 AM to 5PM...
but...... i am the lunatic that sets his alarm clock at 6 AM everyday to boot up GT7 and try to catch up on some of you :lol:
So lets say i get around 150/200 km a day on the timetrials ( and that's the only thing i'm doing on GT7, cleared all the rest long ago and have all available cars in game, all gold's...etc...)

So it doens't come on it's own, i def make more miles than some of you here, and that's just the key.... practise :D;);)
This ia a better lap. However, I sorely lack consistency in 2nd sector. I still have no idea how to take that downhill banked left....can't figure out where the minimum speed point is.



That's not a bad start Muffinman, almost in the 27's at the start, shouldn't be to hard for you to shave off a few tenths here!
I do struggle a bit here, i am soooo not familiar with the track, and i'm loosing so much time on Hayden already in T1..... i have no idea how he rockets off that hard??
then the S'es are a hit or miss, but i'm getting there, i think it's just getting miles on it to find the consistency on it, and pray that you won't invalidate on the wall....... somany times i was sure to hit it, but didn't, but feels good when you are on the edge....
Mega sector, fast and fun!...

But then....... indeed..... how the hell should you take the downhill left??......, where is your brakepoint?.... my brain says it's a two seperate brakepoint approach but it feels akward, and when i think i sort of got it, the civic kind of dies in 4th because i seem to miss some revs on the exit there......

I did follow your advice on the Vtec decal..., did help... or maby it was the Brraaapppp!!!...., who knows..:lol::lol:

Found some, but not enough by far ...

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