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Another day, another car... Some mate in this lovely corner of the web mentioned the Genesis Gr.4 and I hadn't realised till that moment that such a car exists. I changed the colour and went for a short stint of 5 laps as with every other car so far. Right from the start it felt good and lap number 5 was a new PB and I reached my goal of a sub-55 lap! That was awesome!

Unfortunately I had afterwards some issues with the QR2 and couldn't go on. Hopefully this gets fixed quickly to return to the Gr.4-candyshop... (haven't tried the Mercedes yet, for example)

As usual my lap is published and if I can reach gold, you can do it, too. Greetings everyone!
I tried the Genesis today too (after reading your post) and I must say I was very surprised. I got to within a couple of tenths of my PB (in the Citroen) with only 5 laps. Felt like a real plodder - not an exciting car to drive, especially in AT, and I was quite shocked at the time that registered! Thanks for the tip, I will try this a bit more and try to improve my PB and make silver a bit more safe. :cheers:
 
The Supra is great, but it will try to kill you. I did have problem on those hairpin exit tho, can't seem to put the power down early enough.

SLS is like a more stable version of the Supra, but doesn't rotate as well in the 3rd sector.

WRX and the Alfa 155 drives similar with the WRX understeer less. They are both great at the hairpin exit but just can't seem to put the power down early in the 3rd sector because of understeer.

Mustang, Viper and Corvette are not too bad now that I'm more familiar with the track. They do need a bit of work to get the most out of them tho.

Cayman and the Alfa 4C are surprising good....with the Cayman being more of an all rounder and the 4C really rotate well. The problem I had witht the 4C is the exit of hairpin. I lost a boat load of time at the exit of the hairpin at the beginning of the 3rd sector.
I actually had a go with a few other cars. My gut feeling is the Supra is the fastest although I only did a few laps with the SLS; it is far less stable but you can get more rotation in just about every corner, it’s so resistant to understeer under power (like all rear wheel drive cars should be, take it Polyphony Digital 👀). The SLS like a lot of the other cars are more stable and consistent, so for most of us mortals it’s a case of pick your favourite and chase gold!

As for the other cars I tried today (just cars I own), as I’m considering buying a new Alfa Romeo (you’ve got to own one in your lifetime right!?) I thought I’d try the 4C; I use it occasionally in offline races and I quite like it. It’s surprisingly fast and nice and stable, plus has a lovely chuckability to it. Just suffers a bit with understeer in high speed corners but I managed to get sub 1:54 in a few laps.

Jaaaaaag f-type, I really like this car as it’s a sort of middle of the road in terms of handling. It’s quite agile, doesn’t understeer as badly as others and equally not oversteers on exit as others. Nice all rounder

Macca 650S; I’ve never driven this one before but YES! I like it, feels very similar to the Gr3 650S. Handles fantastically, very agile and pointy and accurate. Very stable and great visibility in VR (though my ‘hands’ and the steering wheel are a bit distracting on quarter lock 👀). But like the Gr3 car you have to be absolutely on it all the time to make it properly quick; it’s really fun but you have to get on the power super early everywhere. Really enjoyable though!

I’ll jump back in the Supra later as it’s definitely the quickest for me but running that knife edge between fast cornering and 720 out of control spin will undoubtably be frustrating 🤣


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I actually had a go with a few other cars. My gut feeling is the Supra is the fastest although I only did a few laps with the SLS; it is far less stable but you can get more rotation in just about every corner, it’s so resistant to understeer under power (like all rear wheel drive cars should be, take it Polyphony Digital 👀). The SLS like a lot of the other cars are more stable and consistent, so for most of us mortals it’s a case of pick your favourite and chase gold!

As for the other cars I tried today (just cars I own), as I’m considering buying a new Alfa Romeo (you’ve got to own one in your lifetime right!?) I thought I’d try the 4C; I use it occasionally in offline races and I quite like it. It’s surprisingly fast and nice and stable, plus has a lovely chuckability to it. Just suffers a bit with understeer in high speed corners but I managed to get sub 1:54 in a few laps.

Jaaaaaag f-type, I really like this car as it’s a sort of middle of the road in terms of handling. It’s quite agile, doesn’t understeer as badly as others and equally not oversteers on exit as others. Nice all rounder

Macca 650S; I’ve never driven this one before but YES! I like it, feels very similar to the Gr3 650S. Handles fantastically, very agile and pointy and accurate. Very stable and great visibility in VR (though my ‘hands’ and the steering wheel are a bit distracting on quarter lock 👀). But like the Gr3 car you have to be absolutely on it all the time to make it properly quick; it’s really fun but you have to get on the power super early everywhere. Really enjoyable though!

I’ll jump back in the Supra later as it’s definitely the quickest for me but running that knife edge between fast cornering and 720 out of control spin will undoubtably be frustrating 🤣
I haven't tried the 4C yet, started with the Ferrari, then the GT-R, SLS and the "Macca" .... stil fastest with the SLS with 1 thousand of a second :lol: :lol:
But the Macca just turns in so good on long uphill left after the first hairpin, and when you are not going to make it, hitting a quick third does rotate it, and that's something i can't say about the SLS....
So more fun to drive the Macca for me!

But curious what we get next, hope is't a slidy roadcar, to keep me motivated :lol::lol:

But nice time mate , casually flying into the .6xx..... :bowdown::bowdown:
 
Hi everyone :)

Back here and on GT7 after some Nordic holidays 🥶

Not much to say about the new TT at Autopolis, except it's a perfect training and a good opportunity to finally getting gold for expert drivers like @smoothbore12 and @Lomic :dopey:

I've tested different Gr.4 cars and I had good sensations with the NSX. And after +/- 10 laps in 1:56.1xx / 1:56.3xx, I finally string all the best sectors in the same lap (without ghost, video or wheel...).

Et voilà, mission accomplished :sly:

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As usual, the replay is available in game for everyone.

If I have some motivation, I could probably try to improve this first yellow score to join the "Sub 1:55".
 
Hi everyone :)

Back here and on GT7 after some Nordic holidays 🥶

Not much to say about the new TT at Autopolis, except it's a perfect training and a good opportunity to finally getting gold for expert drivers like @smoothbore12 and @Lomic :dopey:

I've tested different Gr.4 cars and I had good sensations with the NSX. And after +/- 10 laps in 1:56.1xx / 1:56.3xx, I finally string all the best sectors in the same lap (without ghost, video or wheel...).

Et voilà, mission accomplished :sly:

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As usual, the replay is available in game for everyone.

If I have some motivation, I could probably try to improve this first yellow score to join the "Sub 1:55".
Ok, ok , you make your " thing" but you forget something, me and @Lomic we are bad .

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Meanwhile I am still trying to knock on the door of the "Sub 1:56" club, and nobody wants to open 🤣 I tried different cars (not the NSX though) with no avail for now... fingers crossed for tonight !
and how much time would you say you've committed to it? I know I'm at something like 2 hours for a silver time now. 2 hours for 1 million credits is not efficient lol...
 
Meanwhile I am still trying to knock on the door of the "Sub 1:56" club, and nobody wants to open 🤣 I tried different cars (not the NSX though) with no avail for now... fingers crossed for tonight !

80 laps until now
Hey Lomic,

You driving AT? And have you tried the 155 yet?
 
and how much time would you say you've committed to it? I know I'm at something like 2 hours for a silver time now. 2 hours for 1 million credits is not efficient lol...
you are right, I was planning to write it with my post but I forgot, so I edited it, I've done 80 laps. Compared to 10 laps or so of @Pesselles or @Guffaluff who gets gold on his second lap, I feel very tiny ☺️

as for the efficiency you mention, since I've auto-grinded all the credits I'll ever need, I don't mind at all the credit outcome of the time I spend now on GT7, the only thing important is to have fun.

You driving AT? And have you tried the 155 yet?
Yes and yes :) and my best lap is with the Alfa
 
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you are right, I was planning to write it with my post but I forgot, so I edited it, I've done 80 laps. Compared to 10 laps or so of @Pesselles or @Guffaluff who gets gold on his second lap, I feel very tiny ☺️

as for the efficiency you mention, since I've auto-grinded all the credits I'll ever need, I don't mind at all the credit outcome of the time I spend now on GT7, the only thing important is to have fun.
yeah I hope someday to reach that lofty position. lol...I'm focused on getting the Legends cars and the Invite cars. Brand Central in general I don't care so much. They are just sitting there and I can knock them off one at a time as I choose. but the manufactured scarcity of the Legends Dealer plus the invite system is a pita and I'd like to get that all in the rear view mirror asap. Unfortunately, that means I need a ton of credits because the Legend cars are also the most expensive cars by a wide margin.
 
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Meanwhile I am still trying to knock on the door of the "Sub 1:56" club, and nobody wants to open 🤣 I tried different cars (not the NSX though) with no avail for now... fingers crossed for tonight !

80 laps until now
1. Think positive, you're still faster than GOD @smoothbore12 :D (not too complicated)

2. Don't know if my replay is useful but you can try to use it to chase my ghost.

3. 80 laps give you a good overview of the track. Now, it's time to kill the chrono!! Maybe the NSX will fit you, just try it.
 
1. Think positive, you're still faster than GOD @smoothbore12 :D (not too complicated)
Seeing how much he was faster than everyone at our last encounter at Big Willow, I'd say I am only faster for now because he did not even tried.
2. Don't know if my replay is useful but you can try to use it to chase my ghost.
Excuse-me sir, but I already follow @Tidgney's ghost, so I think I'll stick with this gentleman's ghost as there is no debate on the matter of his speed and skills (I should watch his lap guide too...)
3. 80 laps give you a good overview of the track. Now, it's time to kill the chrono!! Maybe the NSX will fit you, just try it.
Yeah but there are so much cars to try, someone a few posts above was recommending the 458, and I was a bit tempted by the Genesis. And trying new cars is fun but you never know if it is the best car for you, even with some bad laps, it may mean you are not used to the car. On the opposite if you beat your record after a few laps, it is motivating.

At the moment my ranking of cars is :
  • Alfa 155, with 1:56.119 and 1:56.294 (2x10 laps)
  • Citroën with 1:56.305 and 1:56.408 (2x10 laps)
  • McLaren 650S with 1:56.689 (10 laps)
  • Silvia with : 1:56.790 an 1:58.298 (first 2x10 laps)
  • Supra with 1:56.852 (10 laps)

The dilemma is :
  • Working more with the Alfa
  • Trying new cars (with which it can take some time to get as "fast" as with the already tested cars)
 
The dilemma is :
  • Working more with the Alfa
  • Trying new cars (with which it can take some time to get as "fast" as with the already tested cars)
There's no dilemma for me because it's mainly a matter of feelings with the car.
You know the track (probably you've also golded the CE), so you only need to pick the car which is fine to drive for you.

I had a good feeling on the first lap with the NSX, so I kept on laping and.... voilà.
 
There's no dilemma for me because it's mainly a matter of feelings with the car.
It is a dilemma because I don't know if the cars I have not tried yet may be faster for me and I should try to get the answer, or if I should instead keep on lapping with the Alfa (or the Citroën).

Thankfully this TT runs for another week, so I'll have time to try other cars and decide which one I want to use to improve as much as possible.
 
It is a dilemma because I don't know if the cars I have not tried yet may be faster for me and I should try to get the answer, or if I should instead keep on lapping with the Alfa (or the Citroën).

Thankfully this TT runs for another week, so I'll have time to try other cars and decide which one I want to use to improve as much as possible.
The answer is simple: give a try to the others GR.4 and once you have the best car for you, you'll find the way to the gold mine :)
 
The answer is simple: give a try to the others GR.4 and once you have the best car for you, you'll find the way to the gold mine :)
As I try at most one car per day, and it takes me at least 5-6 laps to get used to each new car to be able to estimate its potential, I will have a choice to make anyway at one time. Probably will try 2 or max 3 new cars and then make a choice till the end of the TT.
 
Meanwhile I am still trying to knock on the door of the "Sub 1:56" club, and nobody wants to open 🤣 I tried different cars (not the NSX though) with no avail for now... fingers crossed for tonight !

80 laps until now
If I may add my humble 2 cents, what it works for me most of the time are the following:

- after a while in a TT or any event I tend to overdrive the cars. Breaking later, losing speed exit, reving the engine too much. I keep saying to myself "don't overdrive the car". Stick to its capacities and stay relaxed.

- sometimes all we need is a break. Coming back later with a fresh pair of eyes and hands may works wonders.

All in all I'm just an average silver Joe. But within my capacities that's what works for me.
 
If I may add my humble 2 cents, what it works for me most of the time are the following:

- after a while in a TT or any event I tend to overdrive the cars. Breaking later, losing speed exit, reving the engine too much. I keep saying to myself "don't overdrive the car". Stick to its capacities and stay relaxed.

- sometimes all we need is a break. Coming back later with a fresh pair of eyes and hands may works wonders.

All in all I'm just an average silver Joe. But within my capacities that's what works for me.
I 100% second this message!
 
If I may add my humble 2 cents, what it works for me most of the time are the following:

- after a while in a TT or any event I tend to overdrive the cars. Breaking later, losing speed exit, reving the engine too much. I keep saying to myself "don't overdrive the car". Stick to its capacities and stay relaxed.

- sometimes all we need is a break. Coming back later with a fresh pair of eyes and hands may works wonders.

All in all I'm just an average silver Joe. But within my capacities that's what works for me.
It happens to me all the time, thats why my first two laps are the best ones.
 
That's me trying to go faster and faster at the beginning of a TT. But on this TT I am already past this phase, and I prefer taking the risk to be too slow in a corner than overdrive it, as the penalty is less severe and it does not compromise next turn if it is close.
Finding the magical middle ground between overdriving and being too conservative is the beauty of a TT.

Keep on it, you can do it.
 
It is a dilemma because I don't know if the cars I have not tried yet may be faster for me and I should try to get the answer, or if I should instead keep on lapping with the Alfa (or the Citroën).

Thankfully this TT runs for another week, so I'll have time to try other cars and decide which one I want to use to improve as much as possible.
I'd take the other way around: experiment with a couple of car, just 2-3 laps, to see how you feel, than stick to one and try to squeeze from it as much as you can. Maybe choose one with replays available, so that you can ghost it and compare apple to apple.
Sometimes it is an issue of confidence in the car. Get regular and repeatable times, no matter how fast they are, and move from there searching the limit.
Once you are really sure that you are quite there, then you may be thinking to experiment with other cars.
Switching car here and there simply add another variable to the process.

I did your same approach in the early days of the TT. Started with beloved Ferrari, moved to Macca, than to Supra (which I know I'm not good at), that AMG (just becuase I had a compulsory moment to buy a new car).
With all of this I was able to go quite quicky to about the same time.
Only when I decided to stick to AMG things started to improve. Not because of AMG itself, but because I started to learn the combo.
Yes, maybe in the next days, just for fun, I'll come back to some other car to see where I can go with it, but not now.
 
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experiment with a couple of car, just 2-3 laps
2-3 laps is not enough for me, most of the time my best lap with any given car (that I am used to or not) does not come until lap 8-9.
I would have skipped all the cars I've tried if only testing 2-3 laps each. I make so many mistakes in those first laps, to adapt to the car, it does not do it justice.
My first impression with the Alfa was "what is this awful car?" but as many suggested this car, I insisted and after 6-7 laps, began to see the light 😁

With the Supra it was faster as I quickly that she only wanted to murder me on every slow exit 🤣
 
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Only on slow exit? On the left sweeper in the 2nd sector, I had to fight understeer in just about all the cars....the Supra was the only one that tried kill me by spinning it's rear around :dunce:
I wrote than "she only wanted to murder me on every slow exit" but not that it was only there, it is just the kind of place where it was the most obvious to me 😅

to be clearer, I did not wrote "she wanted to murder me only on every slow exit" 😁
 
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