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Time Trial Discussion
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- Troglodette
Maybe I'm wrong but I prefer driving MR cars on this kind of "curvy" track.
BTW, 2/10 can change the colour of the reward...
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I gave the new GR3 TT a quick go earlier today in the Peugeot VGT and got 2:05.xxx on my first full lap (after three none complete laps getting used to the car up hill). Only problem was a scrubbed the barrier at the top of the hill just before the chicanes so was invalidated.
I was quickly catching a Genesis ghost with a 2:00.xxx lap time when I was coming down the hill but couldn't keep up with it to the top of the hill.
Will give this a proper go on the weekend.
I was quickly catching a Genesis ghost with a 2:00.xxx lap time when I was coming down the hill but couldn't keep up with it to the top of the hill.
Will give this a proper go on the weekend.
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- half_sourly
Depends on how you look at it.
You could simply say the SLS AMG has the quickest two times (this morning when I got the data) so that is quickest. The first Ferrari was tenth at that point. Still quite a few Supras high up too.
You could also say the SLS and Ferrari have some of the slowest times, so they might be difficult cars to drive.
Here is the raw data, sorted by MIN time.
| MAX | MIN | AVG | COUNT | |
| Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 | 02:41.829 | 01:52.478 | 01:57.542 | 9155 |
| Toyota GR Supra Race Car '19 | 02:21.834 | 01:52.553 | 01:58.190 | 35566 |
| McLaren 650S Gr.4 | 02:25.445 | 01:52.766 | 01:58.510 | 5254 |
| Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 | 02:40.765 | 01:52.797 | 01:58.106 | 10309 |
| Jaguar F-type Gr.4 | 02:15.612 | 01:52.882 | 01:57.339 | 2173 |
| BMW M4 Gr.4 | 02:22.827 | 01:52.926 | 02:00.949 | 1010 |
| Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 | 02:34.889 | 01:52.928 | 01:59.448 | 1155 |
| Honda NSX Gr.4 | 02:21.119 | 01:52.942 | 01:58.597 | 2741 |
| GT by Citroën Gr.4 | 02:12.553 | 01:52.953 | 01:57.744 | 1890 |
| Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 | 02:13.890 | 01:53.124 | 01:58.951 | 1017 |
| Lexus RC F Gr.4 | 02:12.835 | 01:53.152 | 01:59.427 | 635 |
| Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 | 02:20.542 | 01:53.212 | 01:59.561 | 2674 |
| Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 | 02:12.884 | 01:53.530 | 01:59.222 | 4457 |
| Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 | 02:35.309 | 01:53.544 | 01:59.726 | 4212 |
| Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.4 | 02:21.802 | 01:53.552 | 02:00.009 | 935 |
| MAZDA3 Gr.4 | 02:13.204 | 01:53.556 | 01:58.522 | 4608 |
| TOYOTA 86 Gr.4 | 02:16.970 | 01:53.750 | 02:00.246 | 960 |
| Mazda Atenza Gr.4 | 02:19.696 | 01:53.857 | 02:00.731 | 1424 |
| Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI '93 | 02:17.615 | 01:53.893 | 01:59.020 | 9616 |
| Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 | 02:20.475 | 01:53.929 | 02:00.582 | 1615 |
| Nissan Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car | 02:16.684 | 01:53.954 | 01:59.697 | 2369 |
| Nissan GT-R Gr.4 | 02:28.740 | 01:53.986 | 01:59.586 | 3244 |
| Dodge Viper Gr.4 | 02:16.547 | 01:53.992 | 02:00.025 | 1678 |
| Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 | 02:16.195 | 01:54.010 | 01:59.876 | 990 |
| Genesis G70 GR4 | 02:12.234 | 01:54.021 | 01:58.722 | 908 |
| Ford Mustang Gr.4 | 02:12.640 | 01:54.029 | 01:59.876 | 1046 |
| Subaru WRX Gr.4 | 02:14.219 | 01:54.073 | 01:58.812 | 1417 |
| Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 | 02:22.685 | 01:54.345 | 02:00.160 | 233 |
| Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 | 02:11.058 | 01:54.655 | 01:59.344 | 863 |
| Suzuki Swift Sport KATANA Edition Gr.4 | 02:12.968 | 01:54.660 | 01:59.830 | 1583 |
| Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 | 02:27.076 | 01:54.717 | 01:59.013 | 528 |
| Audi TT Cup '16 | 02:14.232 | 01:54.876 | 01:59.778 | 1021 |
| Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 | 02:08.724 | 01:55.158 | 01:59.729 | 314 |
GlockPants
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So much for a quick stop down under ...
This one is going to be a tough Gold.
I decided to try a very non-meta car, though. Since I just bought it in the LCD, the McLaren F1 GTR.
I don't know if I'll keep using it, considering the difficulty. I'm much more familiar with the Porsche RSR.
Only a short stint today after completing the Weekly Challenges. 9 whole laps.
Good thing my Autoplolis time is probably a safe Gold at 2.28%. Mount Panorama is going to take some work.
This one is going to be a tough Gold.
I decided to try a very non-meta car, though. Since I just bought it in the LCD, the McLaren F1 GTR.
I don't know if I'll keep using it, considering the difficulty. I'm much more familiar with the Porsche RSR.
Only a short stint today after completing the Weekly Challenges. 9 whole laps.
Good thing my Autoplolis time is probably a safe Gold at 2.28%. Mount Panorama is going to take some work.
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The problem of course is that you would have to somehow weigh that data. A single driver can completely mess up the vertical line for any car. If these lines were heat maps instead, they would tell a more complete story
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HURRAH, I've improved my PB at Autopolis.... by 0.008... 
with the 458 Italia ▶️ 1:55.590 🥇
Sector 1: I'm regularly around 22:000 when the 1st turn is great.
Sector 2: from 37:800 to 38:000 - Probably some tenths to gain here if I improve the 8th and 9th turns.
Sector 3: from 55:7xx to 56:000 - I feel it's my weak point because I'm not yet fully confident on the line to take.
Joke aside, the most promising part is my optimal is now at 1:55.381...
(where the NSX was mostly around 55.5xx)
There's still a lot on the table and I feel there's more tenths to gain with the Cavallino Rampante than with the NSX.
#KeepPushing
with the 458 Italia ▶️ 1:55.590 🥇Sector 1: I'm regularly around 22:000 when the 1st turn is great.
Sector 2: from 37:800 to 38:000 - Probably some tenths to gain here if I improve the 8th and 9th turns.
Sector 3: from 55:7xx to 56:000 - I feel it's my weak point because I'm not yet fully confident on the line to take.
Joke aside, the most promising part is my optimal is now at 1:55.381...
(where the NSX was mostly around 55.5xx)There's still a lot on the table and I feel there's more tenths to gain with the Cavallino Rampante than with the NSX.
#KeepPushing
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I'm practically the opposite - I really struggle with Turn 1 and 22.2xx is good for me; 22.5xx is normal.HURRAH, I've improved my PB at Autopolis.... by 0.008...
Sector 1: I'm regularly around 22:000 when the 1st turn is great.
Sector 2: from 37:800 to 38:000 - Probably some tenths to gain here if I improve the 8th and 9th turns.
Sector 3: from 55:7xx to 56:000 - I feel it's my weak point because I'm not yet fully confident on the line to take.
Joke aside, the most promising part is my optimal is now at 1:55.381...
There's still a lot on the table and I feel there's more tenths to gain with the Cavallino Rampante than with the NSX.
#KeepPushing
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Final sector I've always been quite happy with - for some reason I really enjoy the sequence of corners from 12 - 16. Nailing 12 is important, but I reckon 15 is the key to a quick final sector for me. However, it's the hairpin at 11 that makes the biggest difference in the entire lap for me, and getting that right consistently has really helped.
Lovely time with the 458 Italia
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Flying close to the walls at Mount Panorama in 1.59.449. I love this track!!
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After the mid 2:05 and 20 laps where i didn't even reach the top of the mountain i did a 2:04,600 and after that a 2:03,440. Wow! Pretty pleased with that and now i will wait where the silver time lands in about a week. I wish you guys a lot of fun climbing the mountain and the records!
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Merci Mister MarsI'm practically the opposite - I really struggle with Turn 1 and 22.2xx is good for me; 22.5xx is normal.
Final sector I've always been quite happy with - for some reason I really enjoy the sequence of corners from 12 - 16. Nailing 12 is important, but I reckon 15 is the key to a quick final sector for me. However, it's the hairpin at 11 that makes the biggest difference in the entire lap for me, and getting that right consistently has really helped.
Lovely time with the 458 Italia though
Fun fact, when my first sector is over 22:3xx, I'm close to restart...
I really enjoy the hairpin (70/75km/h) and 12 is not my problem, as I'm at 140/150 km/h here.
The following curves - 14 to 17 - are fun to chain but as my line is rarely perfect, my speed is mainly too low.
Cheers
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I have not yet run this TT, but I love MP, gold TT challenges, and have seen that you have asked several times for some tips, so here’s my two-cents on how to generally maximize a lap at MP.
For one, take it slow. I don’t usually watch anyone else until I’m really struggling with the challenge, gearing, or track limits (like last week at Monza, ugh). Watching others who have a different style or skill set may not translate into you getting faster. You being comfortable with a car and the place you’re driving it will.
For MP sometimes feeling a little slow is the fastest way over the hill. Find your lines and then begin increasing your speed through them before focusing on being as fast as possible.
A lap: I’m not focusing on the 90 degree first and last corners or the esses after the back straight as they are fairly straight forward.
After the first long straight it’s important to ensure you are maintaining your speed by finding your braking point and hitting that first R apex, using all the space to your advantage while beginning your ascent up the hill. Run out to the curb on the L then head to the R side of the track in preparation for the following walled in corners.
As you enter the double apex left that begins to take you up the hill stay hard left against the wall on the first apex, using it to judge your braking point for the next corner while heading towards the wall on the R side. Concentrate on slowing for the next apex while hugging the inside L wall until it opens and work at maximizing your traction up the hill.
Continue to play with throttle to keep it as close to full as possible while you crest the R/L sweeper running over the Armco on the R, then staying as close to the left wall as humanly possible, in hopes of carrying that speed across the top of the hill.
You’ll then dip down for a moment, and find that the first L kink across the top is usually a slight lift making sure you eat up the apex while running it out towards the wall on the R (probably the most common spot for people to brush the wall as it is hard to judge corner speed here). The final left before heading toward the downhill can be blind (hiding behind the hump in the road) depending on how fast you’re going. I make sure I’m finding a point to turn in reliably (using that hump as a guide) to get right up to the L side wall and carry that speed all the way out to the Armco on the right as I run towards the downhill braking section.
Now the downhill, a big worry for many. For me, I’m searching for my braking point around where the crest starts heading down and the R wall encroaches, getting on the brakes and modulating them as well as steering and throttle to keep the car steady. Get all over the curbing on the left while focusing on the sharp R. The idea is to be comfortably around that R so that you can carve a safe, straight-ish line through the sharp L drop and out. During the drop I’m right up again the L wall while fixating on the next R and tying those points together. Get through there with as little input possible, maximizing the space between the walls, and getting on the throttle as early and as straight as possible looking ahead to your braking point for the hairpin L that enters onto the back straight. In a GR3 on RS you should be going fast (maybe flat) from the drop down to the hairpin. I use the R kink before the hairpin to judge my braking point here. Ensure you hug the wall tightly in the hairpin to allow for as much room to run out to the R wall and carry that speed all the way down the straight.
The main point of the whole lap is maintaining speed and minimizing over-braking. It is hard to find the lines sometimes, and a little mistake or position change can cause a ripple effect that ruins a lap.
I hope this huge wall of text helps a little! I will be starting this one later tonight and will post a video as well.
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Well I've been clocking in at the end of Sector 2 where the hairpin is, always between 1'01.176 and 1'02.254. I can never do under a minute. And then I reach the final right turn at 1'50.000-1'51.000 so that's an issue for me, I'm being consistent but doing the same concept.HURRAH, I've improved my PB at Autopolis.... by 0.008...
Sector 1: I'm regularly around 22:000 when the 1st turn is great.
Sector 2: from 37:800 to 38:000 - Probably some tenths to gain here if I improve the 8th and 9th turns.
Sector 3: from 55:7xx to 56:000 - I feel it's my weak point because I'm not yet fully confident on the line to take.
Joke aside, the most promising part is my optimal is now at 1:55.381...
There's still a lot on the table and I feel there's more tenths to gain with the Cavallino Rampante than with the NSX.
#KeepPushing
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I do seem to be nailing Sector 3 by clipping most of the apexes by staying close to each curb on either side and driving wide out for extra speed.
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Geez. The R8 LMS is so undrivable on this track...I spent 140km getting even one decent lap, while I beat the lap with the Supra GT500 after just a few attempts. Drives sooo much better on this track.
I also tried the R30 just to see where it stands. Definitely not gold, but I got within a second with a 2:02.6
I also tried the R30 just to see where it stands. Definitely not gold, but I got within a second with a 2:02.6
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I was trying Monza one last time at the morning, but no miracle, silver it is!
About new TT, I love Bathurst, but his walls are hating me...
Tried with Genesis and, as I thought, it will probably be another silver.
But it's only first day, who knows how will aliens drive and how will I drive...
About new TT, I love Bathurst, but his walls are hating me...
Tried with Genesis and, as I thought, it will probably be another silver.
But it's only first day, who knows how will aliens drive and how will I drive...
Lomic
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10 laps on AP tonight with the Ferrari.
First laps were not promising at all, struggled to go below 1:57, but at the 8th lap I improved my best lap, very close to go under 1:56... but not in the "Sub 1:56" club yet...
Ranking of cars / lap times / nb of laps :
Best optimal yet with 1:55.820 (gold ! )
3rd or 4th medium time.
Best S1 and S2 overall.
Optimal overall : 1:55.569
Looks like I'll stick with this car, with more laps I should get a bit more consistency and maybe reach gold...
First laps were not promising at all, struggled to go below 1:57, but at the 8th lap I improved my best lap, very close to go under 1:56... but not in the "Sub 1:56" club yet...
Ranking of cars / lap times / nb of laps :
- Ferrari 458, with 1:56.012 (10 laps)
- Alfa 155, with 1:56.119 and 1:56.294 (2x10 laps)
- Citroën with 1:56.305 and 1:56.408 (2x10 laps)
- McLaren 650S with 1:56.689 (10 laps)
- NSX with 1:56.739 (10 laps)
- Silvia with : 1:56.790 an 1:58.298 (first 2x10 laps)
- Supra with 1:56.852 (10 laps)
Best optimal yet with 1:55.820 (gold ! )
3rd or 4th medium time.
Best S1 and S2 overall.
Optimal overall : 1:55.569
Looks like I'll stick with this car, with more laps I should get a bit more consistency and maybe reach gold...
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I just clocked a 1'57.595 after 197 laps since the wee hours of the morning. Hard work, well I think I'm good for silver but getting gold would be better. Wow, the Sciccoco gave me the best results so far, it's getting harder.I had a first test with the RSR: 2:11....
Here's the video guys:
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Finally had a descent lap in on Autopolis, been trying for a week on the big screen but just ran my PB on remote while the wife was Netflixing 😂...what are the ods...🙈
The bad thing is that there is still room.... 🤣
But come ooonnnn.....0.89%....and only place 171??!! 😂😂 that's just nuts!
But.....Now I can sleep peacefully tonight and hop in the Genesis GR3 or RSR? tomorrow morning for a first run On the mountain of ice .... Autopolis........case closed 😜
The bad thing is that there is still room.... 🤣
But come ooonnnn.....0.89%....and only place 171??!! 😂😂 that's just nuts!
But.....Now I can sleep peacefully tonight and hop in the Genesis GR3 or RSR? tomorrow morning for a first run On the mountain of ice .... Autopolis........case closed 😜
Lomic
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@Chris30 : yes, with the audio it would be better and only record fastest lap, I watched all the first lap just to see that it was not your best.Where's the audio
Your trajectory seems good most of the time, except some turns were you did mistakes. I feel like you are braking a bit too late on a lot of places, but you manage to keep the car under control.
Have you tried other cars ? Not sure the Scirroco is the best one.
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Be honest with the whole of us... was it you or the cat?
Great effort, really great effort 👌
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