Time Trial Discussion

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I wonder if PD have done what they have done to the controllers for GT7 to prevent the problems we had on GTS, now we can have tyre management but not the pace, it's a no win scenario really as long as controllers and wheels are competiting on the same leaderboards and in the same races.
You have done a 59.9, is that with a controller because I've been going and going and going and the best I can do is 1.01.020. I have never struggled like this with a time trial before lol!
 
You have done a 59.9, is that with a controller because I've been going and going and going and the best I can do is 1.01.020. I have never struggled like this with a time trial before lol!
It is, here's my lap. I found looking at the leaderboard ghosts/replays was a bad idea because the car does different things on a controller to a wheel, I tried to get the exits as clean as I could because the driving on the grass and throwing the car at the entries seems impossible for me.
 
1:00.342... And after about another 800km, I still can't get those 75 miliseconds for gold.

Tried with TC on 1... I'm actually even slower, but crash less.

This one is definitely going to tarnish my gold record.

I wonder if PD have done what they have done to the controllers for GT7 to prevent the problems we had on GTS, now we can have tyre management but not the pace, it's a no win scenario really as long as controllers and wheels are competiting on the same leaderboards and in the same races.

Have they been changing stuff with the controllers over these last 2 months? I'd much rather have the pace than preserve tyres. And I would say the vast majority as well since a very small % does pit stop races in Sport Mode.

If this is the case, no wonder I am struggling to get gold.

I just checked the leaderbords and only 1800 players have achieved gold.

The MP4/4 on Suzuka only had 2096 gold times but I actually placed myself in 117th position. So this TT definitely isn't normal. Over 1300km I've put in it already, more than any other before.

These two turns (highlighted in green) are a nightmare to get them right. By far the hardest corners of this track with this car at least:

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It is, here's my lap. I found looking at the leaderboard ghosts/replays was a bad idea because the car does different things on a controller to a wheel, I tried to get the exits as clean as I could because the driving on the grass and throwing the car at the entries seems impossible for me.

Is that DS4 or DualSense? I can't for the life of me take turn 3 in 5th gear... Impossible, car simply doesn't turn, and the same goes for the chicane at 4th gear. You use the left analog to steer?
 
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Have they been changing stuff with the controllers over these last 2 months? I'd much rather have the pace than preserve tyres. And I would say the vast majority as well since a very small % does pit stop races in Sport Mode.
Not that I know of, it just feels different to the old game where the cars with high downforce were much more responsive, it's felt like I've been losing time in the tight corners since launch but this time trial has filled in some of the gaps on how.

Is that DS4 or DualSense? I can't for the life of me take turn 3 in 5th gear... Impossible, car simply doesn't turn, and the same goes for the chicane at 4th gear. You use the left analog to steer?
Dualsense, max sensitivity in game and the haptic trigger stuff turned off.

The MP4/4 on Suzuka only had 2096 gold times but I actually placed myself in 117th position. So this TT definitely isn't normal. Over 1300km I've put in it already, more than any other before.
I think the spread on the McLaren time trial is more down to the weird gearbox and the strange way people were driving for the fast times than anything to do with the steering, it's a old car too so probably has less downforce than these.
 
My TT attempt:
The lap basically boiled down to getting lucky with T1 and 3, because I still have no idea where exactly to brake or turn in for those corners. Everything else I was able to eventually figure out and nail consistently. I also had to use TCS at 1 for this one. While you still have to be careful out of the slower corners (especially the chicane), it helped keep the tires from spinning up when bouncing over the curbs at T3 and T8 and allowed me to be much more aggressive. Still, you can probably see it wasn't a perfect lap from all the apexes I missed.
 
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@Grimm6Jack

Yes they change it. U see it when you turn to the max. The steerin wheel in the car wobbels a bit and it dosnt bevore. Is a slite degreese in steering angle.
Honestly these sub 59 time shouldnt exist. They hammer the car half way into the grass without losing grip or gettin penalty. Or over the kerbs without losing stability.

On the controller it feels right now like the tires are a bit loose if you go hard over the kerbs with controller. Thats why i wish we had the same 1:1 translation and stability like on the wheel.
 
@Grimm6Jack

Yes they change it. U see it when you turn to the max. The steerin wheel in the car wobbels a bit and it dosnt bevore. Is a slite degreese in steering angle.
Honestly these sub 59 time shouldnt exist. They hammer the car half way into the grass without losing grip or gettin penalty. Or over the kerbs without losing stability.

On the controller it feels right now like the tires are a bit loose if you go hard over the kerbs with controller. Thats why i wish we had the same 1:1 translation and stability like on the wheel.
Trust me, it feels very unstable on the kerbs with a wheel as well.
 
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Trust me, it feels very unstable on the kerbs with a wheel as well.
It feels yes but more under controll and faster then on controller. They should lift the gold % to 5 then the benefit between wheel and controller is defenetly more then 5%.

Edit: be competitive with Dualsense Lmao
 
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It feels yes but more under controll and faster then on controller. They should lift the gold % to 5 then the benefit between wheel and controller is defenetly more then 5%.

Edit: be competitive with Dualsense Lmao
Lifting it to 5% would be far too easy for the wheel users in my opinion, if there was an option to filter the leaderboard by input device and then give gold to whoever is in the top 3% of their own leaderboard that would be fair. It would also give credit to whoever the 2 fastest in the world are, at the moment it gives you TDG_MARKUS but doesn't even mention the other fastest player or give their time.
 
I did actually record my session so I've uploaded it below, lost at least 2 tenths at T3 and 4 from braking slightly too late and losing the rear on exit (going off my S1 times on later laps), my sector 2 was pretty good as I struggled to match it on later laps and the chicane I think I could've gone slightly quicker


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How I was going about the lap was: The lap starts at the chicane so firstly make sure you get a good exit out of there, T1 is flat, just turn in when you get to the grass on the left.
For T3 I was using the first set of dashed lines as a braking reference, as you pass them, brake, drop down to 5th, throw the car in when you get to the kerb on the left and floor it out.
For T5 the start of the kerb was the brake reference and once again dropping down to 5th and throwing it in.
For T6 you can use the electrical post on the right as a reference and you want to exit T7 in 4th gear to avoid wheelspin
For T10 brake just before the 2nd set of dashed lines, drop to 3rd for the first apex then upshift to 4th for the exit

Though saying that it was mostly just chucking it in and hoping the kerbs didn't spit me out. :lol:

Managed to drop into the 59s
 
@GOTMAXPOWER

But it is the easyer solution for controller user. Pd is not able or willing to make a split.

My worst thought right now:
They dial slitly back the dualsense to have a better selling point for the new edge controller. But thats me and my maniac brain 🤪
 
The lap basically boiled down to getting lucky with T1 and 3

This basically... If I can nail both of these (in reality, it's turn 3 and turn 5 but I understand that you are not counting flat out sections) I'm pretty certain to get gold, just have to be more careful on the U turn and the chicane.

Going for a few more tries in a bit. I really want that gold.
 
This a true learning curve for me, i started around 1:03 or something, but I can't seem to loose the drive to try, even tho I'm on DS4, after 6 gazillion flying miles around atlanta I'm down to 1:00.620.

Problem now still the same, if I nail sector 1 I get to cautious and meet my enemy the hairpin 🤣, but it's clear to me that for me, miles are important, I'm far more consistent now and can do several laps below 1:01 so I have gained alot of track info, and sector one now feels more normal than it did before, still have a long way to go but im already kind of proud with this time on my DS4 from before WWII and will keep trying 😁

 
Just jumped on this one properly, had a go on first couple of days and was Terrible so sacked it off. No work tomorrow so going to hammer it down then. Quite fun once you get used to the car. 1.06.after a few laps
 
Yeah, I'm probably going to give up on this one.

Traction Control is really not the problem. Sure, it's easier to be more consistent and saves you a bit when you're about to lose it, but it really doesn't make you any faster if you already are good enough controlling traction by yourself.

Turn 5 is all down to LUCK no matter what I try. If I don't put HALF the car in the grass, I lose like half a second (from the corner until the U turn), and when I put it in, it's completely random how it handles, sometimes it turns how I want it, sometimes it doesn't turn at all, sometimes it's way too responsive when turning.

Good job PD, nerfing controller's steering inputs (even more than what they were already).
 
Didn't try shifting down to 4th and then back up to 5th as you exit?

@Grimm6Jack

Stay in 5th gear in that corner and go only over the kerbs on the right site. When you hit 21sec in that sectore you halfway done :)

Tried staying in 5th...
Tried staying in 4th...
Tried downshifting to 4th and then immediately to 5th...
Tried downshifting to 3rd (hitting rev limiter) and then immediately go to 4th and 5th...

The problem isn't where I place the car on the exit, the problem is the entry, I HAVE TO take the grass, and the car simply doesn't behave how I want it.

My best sector 1 time is 21.194 but in that lap I screwed up the chicane. My best lap is a 1:00.342 and the sector 1 time was over 21.4 but I was pretty good on the rest of the lap.

Almost 2.000km put on this... Almost twice as much as any other, I usually put about 500km just to make a "respectable" time above the Gold time, only once did I do 1.000km in the two F1 TTs (at Fuji and Suzuka).

This time, I can't even get the gold time. Maybe I just suck at this track with this car.

I spend 95% of my time in this TT just trying to get a respectable time in sector 1, sub 21.4 at least, if not, which is what happens 95% of the time, I restart. I stopped doing full laps for quite a while, sector 1 is definitely the problem.
 
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