Time Trial Discussion

[Blayney]

^^that is exactly my experience. Ive just done another 250 miles with no improvement. 90% is just restarting S1 because I'm behind my ghost.

I know that if I take a lot of grass on T3 I can gain a huge amount of time but it's pure luck how that goes.

Some very clean pad laps posted here prove it can be done though. Congrats to all in gold on this one.

 

[TBLRacing]

I'm down to 1.00.790, it's sector one for me, turn 3 and I wanna say the last turn of the S's before the hairpin. Nightmare.

 

[RacinLei]

@Grimm6Jack

You are right. With controller is more or less a gambel. I did couple of laps in a row and got lucky with it. Hopefully they bring the controller back to 1.23 state. Was neerly the best so far.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I'm down to 1.00.790, it's sector one for me, turn 3 and I wanna say the last turn of the S's before the hairpin. Nightmare.

You're not alone... I can't find 75 miliseconds for god knows how long I've tried it. The very worst is that... it's not even secured that somebody won't just improve on the best time.

This is taking me back to the time I spent day after day doing the S. Vettel Red Bull Challenges in GT5 and the Hamiton DLC in GT Sport.
I like it when it's challenging... Don't like it so much when I have a time limit though.

 

[snc]

@Grimm6Jack

You are right. With controller is more or less a gambel. I did couple of laps in a row and got lucky with it. Hopefully they bring the controller back to 1.23 state. Was neerly the best so far.

Dont know why people think this tt is easy on wheel and you can take this amount of grass without spinning as Markus or Galo without effort ;d No, it still very hard even if you are on fanatec podium f1 ;d

 

[TheWeapon874]

Tried staying in 5th...
Tried staying in 4th...
Tried downshifting to 4th and then immediately to 5th...
Tried downshifting to 3rd (hitting rev limiter) and then immediately go to 4th and 5th...

The problem isn't where I place the car on the exit, the problem is the entry, I HAVE TO take the grass, and the car simply doesn't behave how I want it.

My best sector 1 time is 21.194 but in that lap I screwed up the chicane. My best lap is a 1:00.342 and the sector 1 time was over 21.4 but I was pretty good on the rest of the lap.

Almost 2.000km put on this... Almost twice as much as any other, I usually put about 500km just to make a "respectable" time above the Gold time, only once did I do 1.000km in the two F1 TTs (at Fuji and Suzuka).

This time, I can't even get the gold time. Maybe I just suck at this track with this car.

I spend 95% of my time in this TT just trying to get a respectable time in sector 1, sub 21.4 at least, if not, which is what happens 95% of the time, I restart. I stopped doing full laps for quite a while, sector 1 is definitely the problem.

I thought the same until I just started doing full laps regardless of how bad my first sector was. My best first sector was a 20.99, but on my best lap (1.00.25 I think….) it was a 21.4. Theres time everywhere if you nail a section….

I’m nervously checking the leaderboard as I’m close to the edge of gold. I really don’t want to have to try again. I probably spent close to 2 hours on it just to get to gold….

 

[tALEz]

I see your 1:00.265... raise you 0:00.003!
😭 😭 😭

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Bahhh, gold time may keep lowering anyway.

Finally managed gold (for now) on Dualsense, can only pray it holds. 🙏

Actually hit 44.230 entering the final sector and was on pace to do 1:00.xxx or less, only to mess up at final chicane (what's new?😂)

Like what some say: hardest TT so far, frustrating combo, brings it back to GT5 S. Vettel X Challenge, etc.


Am no expert by any means, but here are some things to try (especially for Dualsense users):

• Try TC0 & TC1 interchangeably. Will feel like driving different vehicles, with advantages/disadvantages. Went back & forth with the setting, each gave different perspective to try different manoeuvres. My 1:00.268 was TC0, and 1:00.233 was TC1.
• Try turning off all ghosts. Usually play with ghosts on, but had it off.
• Try with ASM on. Noticed only little difference, had it off.
• Try turning off Dualsense vibration in PS5 settings. This made it as if driving smoothly anywhere.

 

[half_sourly]

it's not even secured that somebody won't just improve on the best time.

And they are still at it. I just noticed Gallo has improved his time to 00:58.550; I think he was at .63x yesterday.

 

[RacinLei]

Dont know why people think this tt is easy on wheel and you can take this amount of grass without spinning as Markus or Galo without effort ;d No, it still very hard even if you are on fanatec podium f1 ;d

Do you tried it ones with controller? I didnt say its an easy task with a wheel but on controller it is harder, specialy with the last update.

 

[snc]

Do you tried it ones with controller? I didnt say its an easy task with a wheel but on controller it is harder, specialy with the last update.

No but I cant gold it on wheel even tough I golded previous tt and still dont think its because Markus has better wheel than I have ;d

 

[KAlex122]

Hope its over soon. Wont even try to bronze it any more. 13% off.

 

[Canada_25]

I don't know if it's because I didn't play much for the last month, but this one felt like the hardest for me... I'm sitting in the 59.9's and I hope it's gonna be enough to get gold as I don't have time to play again till it's over.

I also want to congratulate those who get within the gold time with a controller! I have not played GT with a controller since the early days of GT5 Prologue, but I'm sure it's way harder to set a good time with a controller than with a steering wheel.

 

[RacinLei]

No but I cant gold it on wheel even tough I golded previous tt and still dont think its because Markus has better wheel than I have ;d

This TT is realy tuff. Thats way i say they should go for real grip reduction. Than we had only 59 times and more people are able to gold it.

 

[MidnightRun85]

I've still not cracked into bronze!!! This is the first TT I've not managed to get into the time zones. Looking forward to the next one!!

 

[KAlex122]

I am hoping for a RoadCar one next. Aren't there any leaks this time about upcoming stuff?

 

[Barareklam]

Finaly Gold 🤪🤪🤪
Dualsense and Cockpit view
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Wait, have you shared your replay? If yes how can i see it?
Also you say that steering wheel in the car wobble, I know it does for me since I steer with motion control, but are you on analog left stick for steering?

 

[nonloso17]

I'm currently at 59.926 with Dualsense. Once managed to do a 20.890 first sector but of course I messed it up later, would've been easily below 59.7 since I usually do 21.2 to 21.4 first sectors...

Also the last corner (chicane) is the absolute worst for me I don't know why lol. Everyone is complaining about T3 and T5 (which makes sense ofc) but for me it's that hellish chicane at the end

Anyways I haven't tried for a couple of days now and I don't think I'll try again since it looks like my time will be fast enough to keep my 100% gold streak alive (:

If anyone is interested in my replay I could upload it in a couple of hours just let me know.

 

[RacinLei]

Wait, have you shared your replay? If yes how can i see it?
Also you say that steering wheel in the car wobble, I know it does for me since I steer with motion control, but are you on analog left stick for steering?

Didnt upload it. But i can send you the replay via psn if you wish. Yes i steer with the left analogstick. I notice the wobble in superformula the most after the patch. Its a slightly wider radius in the corners and for some i have to downshift after the patch.

 

[Barareklam]

Didnt upload it. But i can send you the replay via psn if you wish. Yes i steer with the left analogstick. I notice the wobble in superformula the most after the patch. Its a slightly wider radius in the corners and for some i have to downshift after the patch.

Big thanks for your answer. PSN = Highlanderlast

I'm currently at 59.926 with Dualsense. Once managed to do a 20.890 first sector but of course I messed it up later, would've been easily below 59.7 since I usually do 21.2 to 21.4 first sectors...

Also the last corner (chicane) is the absolute worst for me I don't know why lol. Everyone is complaining about T3 and T5 (which makes sense ofc) but for me it's that hellish chicane at the end

Anyways I haven't tried for a couple of days now and I don't think I'll try again since it looks like my time will be fast enough to keep my 100% gold streak alive (:

If anyone is interested in my replay I could upload it in a couple of hours just let me know.

I would like see your replay, can you show it also in cockpit view if it's not too much to ask?

 

[tALEz]

Anyone got a replay of the hotlap in the 58.xxx range? Not ghost replay ingame but perhaps yt video (especially chase cam).
Curious how the aliens do it.

 

[RacinLei]

Anyone got a replay of the hotlap in the 58.xxx range? Not ghost replay ingame but perhaps yt video (especially chase cam).
Curious how the aliens do it.

U can watch it from the leaderboard off track (dont join the session) direct to leaderboard and switch cams. Topslit race in bonnet or bumper cam.

 

[tALEz]

U can watch it from the leaderboard off track (dont join the session) direct to leaderboard and switch cams. Topslit race in bonnet or bumper cam.

Ahh thanks. Somehow forgot about that feature.
The aliens are almost 1sec ahead after sector1 alone. 😂

 

[GTWolverine]

This basically... If I can nail both of these (in reality, it's turn 3 and turn 5 but I understand that you are not counting flat out sections) I'm pretty certain to get gold, just have to be more careful on the U turn and the chicane.

Going for a few more tries in a bit. I really want that gold.

Nope, I meant T1 and T3. It's a total guess where to turn in for T1 and I only manage to avoid running off track about 70% of the time, and half of that time I still kill my lap because I completely miss the apex and kill all of my speed.

 

[benjoi84]

I find it a little frustrating that this is the TT with an inexplicable extended entry period. Why have we had to wait an extra week when so many players have found their peaks? All that's left is the elite fighting over milliseconds against each other (I'm sure there's a meme template for that somewhere).

 

[half_sourly]

I find it a little frustrating that this is the TT with an inexplicable extended entry period. Why have we had to wait an extra week when so many players have found their peaks? All that's left is the elite fighting over milliseconds against each other (I'm sure there's a meme template for that somewhere).

This is a 2-week TT like all of them have been, bar the Escudo at Willow.

 

[benjoi84]

I'm obviously mixing myself up with the WRS events, @half_sourly

 

[250Cal]

1:00.342... And after about another 800km, I still can't get those 75 miliseconds for gold.

Tried with TC on 1... I'm actually even slower, but crash less.

This one is definitely going to tarnish my gold record.



Have they been changing stuff with the controllers over these last 2 months? I'd much rather have the pace than preserve tyres. And I would say the vast majority as well since a very small % does pit stop races in Sport Mode.

If this is the case, no wonder I am struggling to get gold.

I just checked the leaderbords and only 1800 players have achieved gold.

The MP4/4 on Suzuka only had 2096 gold times but I actually placed myself in 117th position. So this TT definitely isn't normal. Over 1300km I've put in it already, more than any other before.

These two turns (highlighted in green) are a nightmare to get them right. By far the hardest corners of this track with this car at least:

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Is that DS4 or DualSense? I can't for the life of me take turn 3 in 5th gear... Impossible, car simply doesn't turn, and the same goes for the chicane at 4th gear. You use the left analog to steer?

This is the key for me, too. Based on what other people are doing, S1 is the key for me.
I have exactly the same issues as you.

Lifting it to 5% would be far too easy for the wheel users in my opinion, if there was an option to filter the leaderboard by input device and then give gold to whoever is in the top 3% of their own leaderboard that would be fair. It would also give credit to whoever the 2 fastest in the world are, at the moment it gives you TDG_MARKUS but doesn't even mention the other fastest player or give their time.

This should be the way it's done I think. I seem to remember earlier GTs let you see what input device people were using.

Managed to drop into the 59s

Great effort.

 

[nonloso17]

I would like see your replay, can you show it also in cockpit view if it's not too much to ask?

There you go. Onboard starts at 1:19.



Just watched my replay onboard for the first time and wow that looks really off in some corners😂 The movements are wayy too slow for cars the X2019

Hope it helps in one way or another!

 

[snc]

Gallo 58.483 😌

 

[RacinLei]

Gallo 58.483 😌

🤮 only 0.02% left for gold.
They should add fix times for gold, so the aliens in front can battle each other without hurting other racer. Or add real grip reduction to prevent those times.