Also very possible it is the opposite, and your wording seems to push for the idea that Zimmerman attacked first only to have Martin overpower him and get shot due to it. I just ask what you base this on other than pure conjecture, if it is indeed the idea you have of how things happened.
I made it quite clear that it was speculation. The fact is no-one knows exactly how Martin and Zimmerman's altercation started. As such, one must consider all the possibilities, not just that described by the survivor. That's part of the trouble with the Stand Your Ground law - the dead guy doesn't get to put his version of events across.
By stating no one knows what happened but saying it's obvious he was hostile seems contradictory.
Not really. That no-one knows what happened exactly is a statement of fact. Zimmerman perceived Martin to be among those he calls 'f---ing punks', minutes before he and Martin crossed paths (the details of how exactly that came about are not clear). It's my opinion that this fact suggests that Zimmerman was in a hostile frame of mind - and the fact that he purposefully followed someone while in this frame of mind raises questions as to what he thought he was going to do if and when he caught up with Martin.
He called Martin an f-ing punk? Wait a minute just above you said that he said
"them f-ing punks", which would imply more than one, and thus convey the idea he is annoyed with the string of robberies people have committed. So you've changed the meaning all in one post one suggest a direct comment toward Martin, the other suggest indirect thus not having aggression toward Martin but tired of the situation and wanted to make sure he followed the person to catch them in the act.
It's clear that Zimmerman was referring to Martin when he said "f---ing punks", which in my book means he thought Martin to be one. As such, I think you're splitting hairs a bit. Obviously Zimmerman was also refering to those who had committed crimes on the estate before, and he was obviously upset/frustrated by them (his choice of words and tone made that quite clear) - once again, I'm of the opinion that his comments on the phone to the 911 operator showed this frustration, and suggested that he was in a hostile frame of mind toward Martin from the outset.
It doesn't show that he wanted a fight, that isn't an absolute. Unless there is evidence he said it directly to Martin and not in the confidence between him and the operator or just to himself in general, how is that aching for a battle?
True, but there remains the question - what did Zimmerman think he was going to do when and if he caught up with Martin? Why did Zimmerman continue to search for Martin after losing sight of him when Martin ran away? In his defence, Zimmerman thought he had spotted a possible criminal, and when he made his presence known to Martin, his misguided hunch was strongly reinforced by Martin's (understandable) decision to start running. This made Zimmerman even more convinced that Martin was up to no good, and rather than take on board what the operator was saying, he decided to keep following/search for Martin. So Zimmerman may not have been expecting or wanting a 'fight', but the fact that he did not return to his van is strong evidence that he expected a confrontation, or was atleast trying to scare Martin off the estate - which, tragically, was never going to happen because Martin had every right to be there. The fact that Zimmerman was armed probably played a significant role insomuch as he probably would not have been anywhere nearly as bold if he wasn't armed. This is what I was implying earlier when I described Zimmerman as 'gung-ho', which was incorrect - but he would almost certainly have felt emboldened by carrying a loaded gun, which in this case may have contributed significantly to his pursuit of Martin.
From Martin's point of view, he was on his phone talking to his girlfriend, seemingly unaware of why he was being followed and probably perceived this as either a threat or (perhaps more likely), an annoyance or even a challenge. For the record, I think it is just as likely that Martin did indeed instigate a confrontation with Zimmerman, but we cannot know for sure. One thing is for sure, however, and that is that Zimmerman went out of his way to find Martin or, at the very least, to make Martin aware that he was being watched - that's the whole point of neighbourhood watch, after all - and this is what caused the altercation to occur at all. Who said what and how, and who did what to whom is all unknown, though - and perhaps Martin over-reacted (by picking a fight with Zimmerman). In other words, it's quite possible (if not extremely likely) that both Martin and Zimmerman made bad decisions that ultimately led to Martin being killed that night.
As I pointed out what I assumed was logical based on facts in evidence. I assumed the logical conclusion. What you're trying to assume is your opinion based on your speculation. Didn't Mister Whiskers do that? 
See those are facts, you, me, anyone can see something we think is suspicious and follow with the intent to observe. We can profile, we can be frustrated. That does not break laws. Noir do those opinions encroach on civil rights. They're the same rights for everyone.
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