Tuner Challenge Championship ~ April McLaren MP4

[Temetias.]

What just happened!? I missed the deadline!

Sorry guys, I was just coming to my computer to post it and read the first post and it said 9th instead of 10th. I dunno how that happened but what is done is done. I'm gonna run for the next month's event then.

Sorry about that.

 

[budious]

What just happened!? I missed the deadline!

Sorry guys, I was just coming to my computer to post it and read the first post and it said 9th instead of 10th. I dunno how that happened but what is done is done. I'm gonna run for the next month's event then.

Sorry about that.

I agree the deadline time was somewhat confusing, I assume most of us are from North America? Perhaps due at 11:59PM on the 9th Pacific Standard Time would have been clearer.

 

[Adrenaline]

I agree the deadline time was somewhat confusing, I assume most of us are from North America? Perhaps due at 11:59PM on the 9th Pacific Standard Time would have been clearer.

This is what it says on the main page, as well as what I re-posted at the end of the thread.

Temetias, I'd be willing to accept the tune today, since it was clearly a misunderstanding on deadline via timezones. I don't believe anyone would have an issue with that, as it's the first month. I think only 1 driver has even started (finished) testing them anyways.

RX-7_FD3S, we've discussed the issue, and the majority agreed it was better to remain anonymous. We considered the idea of having each tuner, publicly 'posting' the tune, but it was decided against. Not to mention I have no idea how there could be any 'reward' by knowing the names?

 

[pHLo]

...I think only 1 driver has even started (finished) testing them anyways...

i started testing, too ;D

i didn't want to spam your email account with results for single tunes tho, i will send my lap times once i have finished test driving


and i have no problem at all wih Temetias posting his results after the deadline 👍

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

RX-7_FD3S, we've discussed the issue, and the majority agreed it was better to remain anonymous. We considered the idea of having each tuner, publicly 'posting' the tune, but it was decided against. Not to mention I have no idea how there could be any 'reward' by knowing the names?

Well by reward I mean we can find which tuner best suit our styles. Some seems to fit to my driving style better than others, I would really like to know who did what so I can go look at there other cars and use some.

 

[budious]

This is what it says on the main page, as well as what I re-posted at the end of the thread.

OK, well I might have remembered reading that but just recalled it was abbreviated in the threat title as midnight which maybe where I went a bit fuzzy on my memory.

and i have no problem at all wih Temetias posting his results after the deadline

I think the main consensus behind enforcing deadline was so that those of us who got one in on time could discuss ours publicly afterwards if we chose to without someone else adopting some aspect of our tune to their tune for a late entry.

 

[Adrenaline]

All times, names, tunes and everything will be public after times are submitted.
If you'd like, I can send you an email with all the names as soon as you submit your times.

 

[pHLo]

I think the main consensus behind enforcing deadline was so that those of us who got one in on time could discuss ours publicly afterwards if we chose to without someone else adopting some aspect of our tune to their tune for a late entry.

of course you are right and i understand if he does not get to post his settings, because he would violate that specfic rule

although my opinion is that he should get a chance this time, since it seems that all of this was caused by a misunderstanding

if you don't agree with me then i'm completely fine with that and if he should be kept out for this month, this saves me about 22 minutes of time spent for test driving

i basically want to say that i'd be OK with either decision - let him post his settings for this month's challenge or don't - i was just expressing my opinion on the topic

 

[drivehard]

So as a driver:

Buy car and all parts, aero, oil change, etc. - one oil change? oil change for every tune?

Input tunes, 5 warm up,10 official, on Trial Mountain?

Record my top 3 times and PM them to Adrenaline? i.e Row 2 tune, Row 3 tune, etc.

Sorry. Looked over the E-Mail in my inbox.

Void post.

 

[BlueShift]

RX-7_FD3S, we've discussed the issue, and the majority agreed it was better to remain anonymous. We considered the idea of having each tuner, publicly 'posting' the tune, but it was decided against. Not to mention I have no idea how there could be any 'reward' by knowing the names?

A garage willing to cheat would say his tune to his driver anyway. There's no problems with names in the google document I think...

 

[budious]

So as a driver:

Buy car and all parts, aero, oil change, etc. - one oil change? oil change for every tune?

Input tunes, 5 warm up,10 official, on Trial Mountain?

Record my top 3 times and PM them to Adrenaline? i.e Row 2 tune, Row 3 tune, etc.

You do have to take engine break-in into consideration. Let Bob run it overnight on grand valley endurance event so you know it's at max HP.

Oil change between every test set would be ideal, or at least every 30 laps minimum, imo.

 

[shaneth]

You do have to take engine break-in into consideration. Let Bob run it overnight on grand valley endurance event so you know it's at max HP.

Oil change between every test set would be ideal, or at least every 30 laps minimum, imo.

We were told that engine break in was not required were we not, on the first page of this discussion. I do agree with oil change between tunes though.

 

[Adrenaline]

So as a driver:

Buy car and all parts, aero, oil change, etc. - one oil change? oil change for every tune?

Input tunes, 5 warm up,10 official, on Trial Mountain?

Record my top 3 times and PM them to Adrenaline? i.e Row 2 tune, Row 3 tune, etc.

Did you get the email I sent out? If not let me know and I can PM it to you.

As for Temetias, I sent him a PM apologizing for any misunderstanding and offered him to submit his tune.

The other points about the names are valid, if people are in agreement, the names can be revealed, it's of no difference to me, it was merely an attempt to avoid favoritism.

 

[shaneth]

The other points about the names are valid, if people are in agreement, the names can be revealed, it's of no difference to me, it was merely an attempt to avoid favoritism.

Personally i don't see the big deal if we see the names or not. It all will be revealed in the end. And at least you are doing all you can to avoid favoritism.

 

[drivehard]

Sorry. I looked over the e-mail in my inbox. I got it now.

I will begin driving now. I'll probably drive all tunes and then go back to the first one in order to see how much engine break in is going to play a factor. If its astronomical I'll report back and ask for instructions. Otherwise everything is looking good.

 

[pHLo]

well.....
your result will probably also be influenced by learning curve
i'm just sayin...

 

[budious]

We were told that engine break in was not required were we not, on the first page of this discussion. I do agree with oil change between tunes though.

Depends on how much the gain is, probably for a 500HP class vehicle, break-in could be as much as 30-40HP, that could be a significant difference or not depending on how well the particular tune utilizes it, but for consistency between running tests on the first tune to the finishing the last tune test, I'd say break it in.

I tune incrementally so I did not run full power from the start so unsure the how it stacked up fully upgraded when not broke in as to finished product.

For extra fun, if you equip the fully broke in engine (+et3) with the following parts you get 394HP for the 4WD Cape Ring seasonal time trial:
+ ECU
+ Catalytic Converter
+ Exhaust Manifold
+ Sport Hards (for TT event)

 

[shaneth]

Depends on how much the gain is, probably for a 500HP class vehicle, break-in could be as much as 30-40HP, that could be a significant difference or not depending on how well the particular tune utilizes it, but for consistency between running tests on the first tune to the finishing the last tune test, I'd say break it in.

I understand where you are coming from but how many km's is break in?

 

[budious]

I understand where you are coming from but how many km's is break in?

300 Miles or about 500 Kilometers typically...

 

[shaneth]

so your talking about an extra 3-4hrs of driving per person and then 20-25min per tune of driving.

And as i dont have a Bob high enough to do endurance races, am i suppose to do it??

 

[budious]

so your talking about an extra 3-4hrs of driving per person and then 20-25min per tune of driving.

And as i dont have a Bob high enough to do endurance races, am i suppose to do it??

Just speaking for an idealized point of view for consistent testing... just do me a favor and test mine last.

B-spec is crap I agree... but there's a lot of decent prize cars there that make it at least the effort to do up to level 25, then you have access to the Grand Valley Speedway endurance event at level 26, which is the good engine break-in course for me, or the perfect oil dirtying event for cheating online HP restrictions.

 

[Riggins]

How do you find the lap times?? After the race I can only see my best lap and like the last 2 laps. If i exit the practice I see a data logger and some replay stuff but can't figure out how to find the times for each lap I ran.

 

[Riggins]

so your talking about an extra 3-4hrs of driving per person and then 20-25min per tune of driving.

And as i dont have a Bob high enough to do endurance races, am i suppose to do it??

No need to break in the engine. This has been established a long time ago.

 

[budious]

No need to break in the engine. This has been established a long time ago.

New cars and engine rebuilds require break-ins, buying a used car and changing oil the does not.

I was only putting emphasis on it as an ideal condition for testing, but since I don't know the exact amount gained, it's probably minimal; and some tunes may benefit from having less HP on this track, then it's probably OK. If we were running trials on Daytona then I'd insist on it a little more.

 

[shaneth]

No need to break in the engine. This has been established a long time ago.

Thanks mate. I haven't. It was a rhetorical question in the conversation.

Btw I was pausing every three laps to note down times. A real pain in the butt.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

How do you find the lap times?? After the race I can only see my best lap and like the last 2 laps. If i exit the practice I see a data logger and some replay stuff but can't figure out how to find the times for each lap I ran.

You got to record you time on the go wiht something. I used excel and my laptop to write down time. But a pen and a single piece of paper would do the trick too.

 

[GT5SER]

How do you find the lap times?? After the race I can only see my best lap and like the last 2 laps. If i exit the practice I see a data logger and some replay stuff but can't figure out how to find the times for each lap I ran.

I use my iPad to log my times, works great.

- Jeramy

 

[Paulie]

I reckon you can.

That said, are the two you recognize also the ones with "issues"? Obviously, everything is locked in now, I'm just curious.



I see at least one tune that will have problems through the first and last sectors. Suspension hysteresis isn't as large an issue as you think.

No, I was looking at one tuning factor in particular and the tunes I "think" I recognise do not have that issue, however they may have other settings I think could slow them down a little but nothing in the magnitude of the issue I was referencing. If you're looking at my tune thinking it's first and last sector will be poor I think you assume too much, my car was great.

Thanks mate. I haven't. It was a rhetorical question in the conversation.

Btw I was pausing every three laps to note down times. A real pain in the butt.

I hope everyone was breaking in the engines first, and buy rigidity refresh and oil change between each tune, otherwise one car will get a power or chassis advantage over another.

 

[shaneth]

I hope everyone was breaking in the engines first,

No i havent.

and buy rigidity refresh

What the hell is this?

and oil change between each tune

Yes definitly.

 

[Adrenaline]

The rigidity thing in GT auto. But I doubt there should be a difference in the total 120 laps, it's less than 300 miles on the car.

We will have 1 more tune coming tonight. I'll email out a notice as well as update the spreadsheet.