Tuner Challenge Championship ~ April McLaren MP4

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I thought this was brought up previously, where it was agreed, that new cars wouldn't use chassis, and used cars would. Regardless, I feel it's best to mandate 1 or the other, to keep it as simple as possible. To remain constant, I'm going to add that it is required. We're only in day 2 of tuning. The people who added it can't go back, where as the people who didn't can purchase and install it still. I'll add this to both posts. Apologize for the inconvenience, just another example...

Chassis reinforcement is completely different to the chassis restore offered in GT Auto.

The GT Auto service brings the car back to factory specs, the Tuning Shop item physically stiffens the car.
 
Yes, wings and aero kits are included in what I consider to be 'all and every available upgrade'. I'll add it to the OP just in case.
 
I'm missing e-mails for the following drivers:

No Email Verified - Drivers
3: HondaFanatic
7: bwampe
8: Nlmkiii
12: ManimillioN
13: ruf_ctr2
16: nelson8403
22: aaronbee2010

If you are still interested in driving please send me a PM with your email, or email me directly at gtplanet.tgb@hotmail.com
 
Adrenaline-

I asked this when the other guy was running it and now I'm asking you. How are you splitting the drivers that use controller or wheel. Me myself drive with the DFGT wheel with wheel settings of Pro, FFB 5 & W.A. off. Thoughts?

- Jeramy
 
Adrenaline-

I asked this when the other guy was running it and now I'm asking you. How are you splitting the drivers that use controller or wheel. Me myself drive with the DFGT wheel with wheel settings of Pro, FFB 5 & W.A. off. Thoughts?

- Jeramy

At this current time I don't see a point in splitting up the drivers. Even if we were to publicly post lap times, which I also don't see a need for. But I'm all ears to hear reasons why we should include this. If enough feel the same, it can be implemented.
 
the old system used a little fun challenge for the drivers, too (Onyx Level, Diamond Level, etc)

is this still implemented? i cant't find any information on that

and are drivers required to break the engine in ?
i'm currently letting my b-spec drivers run the Grand Valley endurance race over 60 laps for the third time now in the maxed out Impreza...
 
Posted this in the defunct tgb thread but I'll also quote it here, tell me what you think about this idea for a competition.

Moderator can we add a sticky to adrenaline's post so it can be found easier and unsticky this now defunct one.

Also, I had an alternative idea for a tuner garage battle competition that would be less rigorous on tuners and driver entries, which would be to have an open time trial format that could be an ongoing or long format contest.

...a Tuner's Garage Time Trial Battle... put a few formal rules in place, like new time submissions must include a screenshot ... and ghost replay, then we can post the ghost replays in the top 10 if it was a clean valid run and have our own leadersboard event.

Racers should be honest, and if they used a garage's tune mention it, then we have a column for a tuner credit also next to each entry. [Tuner X's; Personal; Modified from Tuner X's; etc.] If you have a super secret personal tune it doesn't have to be made public but just mention it's yours or the garage's (or modified from).

Be a fun way to keep an ongoing long running event format where tuners aren't having to meet a deadline for an entry, and test drivers can drive multiple tunes at their leisure.

Just an idea that crossed my mind while tinkering around in the Camaro Z/28 RM '69 thread.
 
I've got my car all tuned up now. Just as I was about to send it to Adrenaline and post a GTO in LDP my PS3 started giving me messages it was overheating and to turn it off.:ill: Just another Summer day in Australia. Maybe tomorrow.👍 I won't post my WRX tune in LDP until after the deadline in case I give someone any ideas, but I must ask, if during the testing the track leaves Trial Mountain, can the tuners at least be given the option to review their gear ratios?
 
Good, because my ratios would suck anywhere with a longer straight than Trial Mountain, which is just about everywhere.
 
if during the testing the track leaves Trial Mountain, can the tuners at least be given the option to review their gear ratios?
Yes, just gotta decide on them first, lol.
We shouldn't tune gear ratios I think.

If driver A drives super fast, 200km/h gear ratio is low for him.
If driver B drives super slow, 200km/h gear ratio is too high for him.

If setup 1 got 210, driver A will say this is better and driver B will say this is worse.
If setup 2 got 190, driver A will say this is worse and driver B will say this is better.

Both drivers should say the same : gear ratio should stay the same for any setup.
 
Now that's just stupid, knowing what ratios to give a car is important for any tuner, and down the back of a straight a fast driver vs a slow one may only vary a few km/hr.
 
BlueShift isn't that what tuning a car is all about. And isn't that analogy what any of the tuning options will result in.

Tree'd by Paulie.
 
Did you get my tune submission Adrenaline? Is this thing even still on?
 
I'm sorry but why Trial Mountain ? Lap time can vary a lot on track like this. By cutting corner you can gain huge amount of time, same with jumping over the 2nd corner. I did some racing lately on it online and my lap time were varying a lot, just by taking different approach on the last chicane and first, second turn. I think a track with less cutting possibility would be nice. Also the Yellow line inside the turn can be cut or not ? There's so many possibility to have a dirty lap on Trial mountain.

I know where not competiting with each other so the need to cheat shoudlnt be there, but Trial Mountain is very hard to determine where cheating enter the race against Time Attacking.

Also I'm listed as driver here but I didnt got any mail/PM at all since Adrenaline took it back. Does it mean I have to check here all the time ?
 
The game will invalidate your lap in time trial if it's dirty, and while I somewhat agree the track is a little inconsistent, there's only one fast way around it.;)
 
BlueShift isn't that what tuning a car is all about. And isn't that analogy what any of the tuning options will result in.

Tree'd by Paulie.
No, it's what driving is all about. There's almost no dependancies with high/low gear setup, esp on 4x4, if the change is ~20km/h. But on times it's huge.

Tuners aren't drivers in this competition: they make their tunes to beat their personal records, not trying to break "world records" set by another setup.

Why we started all with S3 tires then. We should run all under the same conditions, so the same tires and gear ratio since that is only what ppl change going from track to track. It's "driver"'s likes.

Now that's just stupid, knowing what ratios to give a car is important for any tuner, and down the back of a straight a fast driver vs a slow one may only vary a few km/hr.
Let me complete "a few km/h that hit the rev limiter or not".

I'm a tuner, I can't drive fast, but I'm probably faster than mr anybody with my tunes that is all.

I can't turn around the hairpin before the straigth line. Imagine I enter that straigth line with 40km/h less than I should. Now say the diff is 21km/h at the end. I'll have 3 clicks less than I should so the competition is over.
Note that it's not over because I can't tune. It's over because I can't drive.

Am I a tuner or a driver ?


The other day I posted a setup that made 7:26 on the Nür with me driving.

Someone took it and put 6:09. Do you expect tuners to know what problems you can have at theses speeds and that kind of track mastery, or not.

If so, we need a few monthes for 1 tune on 1 track. Tuners tune, drivers drives. And guess what is the only setting drivers changes beside tires, it's the shifting so why do you say I'm stupid lol


The third thing I see is something not fair for little garages. I'm the only one who tests and run my car. You guys can count on two or more ppl to say "nah, give it higher/lower rev". This is unfair because this setting is critical for time improvement.


Anyway anybody knows where do we post our tunes ?
 
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I'm sorry but why Trial Mountain ? Lap time can vary a lot on track like this. By cutting corner you can gain huge amount of time, same with jumping over the 2nd corner. I did some racing lately on it online and my lap time were varying a lot, just by taking different approach on the last chicane and first, second turn. I think a track with less cutting possibility would be nice. Also the Yellow line inside the turn can be cut or not ? There's so many possibility to have a dirty lap on Trial mountain.

I know where not competiting with each other so the need to cheat shoudlnt be there, but Trial Mountain is very hard to determine where cheating enter the race against Time Attacking.

Also I'm listed as driver here but I didnt got any mail/PM at all since Adrenaline took it back. Does it mean I have to check here all the time ?

I understand your concern, but I'm hoping that the anonymous nature of the event will lead to better integrity. I'd be concerned if drivers were supposed to offer up lap times publicly.

Also, if a driver is prone to cheating, then their times are still going to be averaged. Who cares if it's a second or two faster than another driver. They all get pooled together and more than likely they're going to cheat with every car not just one.

If I have any concerns as a tuner, it's driver loyalty to an existing garage. But frankly, even with that I don't really care. We can nitpick all day long, but in the end, it's just supposed to be fun. So, let's just sit back and have fun. Let the drivers have fun grinding out hours, and hours of laps, and us tuners can have fun thinking about the drivers grinding out hours and hours of laps.

Drivers need to be happy the tuners are clamoring for 15 laps of Nurburg for each tune. :sly:

Also, I think it was stated that the best tunes from Trial Mountain will move onto another course. I would hope that the new course would be in contrast to the original. For example, Trial Mountain is bumpy, then a good second course would be Suzuka. Tsukuba would really demonstrate handling, but has it's drawbacks as well, and city courses offer unique challenges as well. In the end, we'll probably see a bit of all three types.

There's no perfect course for a challenge like this. Let the drivers pick where they want to run the cars.
 
RX-7_FD3S: I have nothing to send you, until the tunes have been submitted, but as you can see on page 1 your name is and email have been verified.

Madmike1986: I saw it the first time, I'm just not going to delete, re-ad and repeat every time a garage takes a month off from the challenge.

Blueshift: Tunes are submitted via email - gtplanet.tgb@gmail.com as stated on the first post. Deadline is February 9th at 11:59pm PST. Just about a day and a half from now.
 
Sent my sheet in. 👍

I hope no one has forgotten about the deadline. :nervous:
 
I currently have entries from the following:

2: VTiRoj (RKM Motorsports)
3: Rotary Junkie (RKM Motorsports)
5: Deutsch Rennen (Deutsch Rennsport)
6: BlueShift (BlueShift's Little Tuning Shop)
11: Paulie (Lion's Den Performance)
17: MiniVanMan (Independent)

Entries are open for 9 more hours :)
 
Blueshift: Tunes are submitted via email - gtplanet.tgb@gmail.com as stated on the first post. Deadline is February 9th at 11:59pm PST. Just about a day and a half from now.
Well... I just read that :(
Am I disqualified ?

I'm gonna loose anyway, I just discovered my LSD is badly tuned : rear decel sucks. :/

Anyway a NSX is coming tomorow. She blows.
 

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