Tuner Wars by Harvey Wallbanger (First 2 battles joined 12/6/11)

[Onboy123]

Thanks a lot Onboy!!!! I wish I could find a way to get ride of that understeer . I'll fiddle with it some more .

Hope to give yours a proper run tomorrow (at a karate tournament ) just have time to post a tune in my garage later.

Thanks again

Yea, understeer and Audis are just born for one another. I'd keep the gearbox, or rather, stretch it a bit so it won't accelerate so quickly it throws the car off balance and cause understeer.

HAAAIIYAAAAAA!!!!! *snaps wooden board* Like that? Who's doing the fighting? The kids? If so, I wish them the best of luck!

No problem, I need to get back to doing this sometime soon anyways.

 

[krenkme]

Yea, understeer and Audis are just born for one another. I'd keep the gearbox, or rather, stretch it a bit so it won't accelerate so quickly it throws the car off balance and cause understeer.

HAAAIIYAAAAAA!!!!! *snaps wooden board* Like that? Who's doing the fighting? The kids? If so, I wish them the best of luck!

No problem, I need to get back to doing this sometime soon anyways.

I always need to work on my gearing . Some day I'll get it.

Yes my oldest is doing for a gold in Chung Mu (a forum for her red belt) 👍 I'll let her know one of the Outlaws wishes her luck

Thanks again. 👍

 

[Onboy123]

I always need to work on my gearing . Some day I'll get it.

Yes my oldest is doing for a gold in Chung Mu (a forum for her red belt) 👍 I'll let her know one of the Outlaws wishes her luck

Thanks again. 👍

Ah don't be too bothered by that, the drag racers have to do this every time they set out tuning something for the 'strip.

Wooooo! Kick some ass, little girl!

No problem, we're always up for helping the parrots out. 👍

 

[XDesperado67]

I always need to work on my gearing . Some day I'll get it.

Yes my oldest is doing for a gold in Chung Mu (a forum for her red belt) 👍 I'll let her know one of the Outlaws wishes her luck

Thanks again. 👍

Here's another outlaw wishing her the best.👍👍

So somehow the settings I was using on the "Purple People Eater" last night when I ran my 1:38 on Trial Mountain didn't get saved. Just got the car back close to what I had last night and looking for that little bit extra.

Should still get it on share today but it will be a bit later than I planned.:indif:

Have both my AE86s on share although I'm not wild about the tune on the SS '00. May pull the '83 off share for a while later today so I can post the tune for it.

 

[krenkme]

Wooooo! Kick some ass, little girl!

Here's another outlaw wishing her the best.👍👍

Thanks guys. Starting in 5 mim. and then she gets to spar (she is giving up about 35 pounds on her biggest competitor )

Thanks

 

[ACSR421]

I put my Audi on share if any testers want to try it. I'm still fine tuning it.

 

[XDesperado67]

Okay finally got my "Purple People Eater" on share.

Should get the tune posted in the next hour or so.

It can be a bit temperamental at times either deciding to suddenly exhibit F1 levels of grip or else turning into a hockey puck. It seems to prefer having some throttle at nearly all times as these weird handling issues are most likely to crop up when you suddenly drop off throttle. Easing off the throttle works better and whatever you do, do not for Gods sake mash the brakes!
Gentle application of the brakes in a straight line may be acceptable, at all other times they are to be ignored! If you find yourself going into a corner a bit to hot your best bet is swinging the arse end out and mashing the gas taking the turn in a power slide...the brakes will just insure loss of control.

Anyways instead of telling any potential test drivers to enjoy the "Purple People Eater" I'll just say instead...
May God have mercy on your souls because the French surely won't!

Note: Managed a best time of 1:37.971 on Trial Mountain driving automatic, grip real, ABS1 everything else off.

 

[Onboy123]

Nice one, Desperado, though how you got it to be 3 seconds to be faster than me is beyond me.

Mine is off share now, I need to drive it for a bit, the tune was a Spec 2.03 tune, so it's been a while since I touched the settings.

 

[XDesperado67]

Nice one, Desperado, though how you got it to be 3 seconds to be faster than me is beyond me.

Mine is off share now, I need to drive it for a bit, the tune was a Spec 2.03 tune, so it's been a while since I touched the settings.

Give mine a try and let me know if you survive the experience!

Also I used a minute bit of the power limiter on the tune (99.9%) if the power limiter is off limits for this battle just add 2kg to the ballast. (yeah don't ask me how 0.1% power limiter that doesn't change either HP or torque is equal to 2kg but there it is...) The extra 2kg shouldn't really have much impact on the cars performance.

Oh and with a top driver its got another couple seconds in it. More ham fisted types like the Wallbanger here are more likely to find themselves getting introduced to the scenery more often than completing a lap. You really have to focus on finding that nearly perfect line with top throttle control or its in the stew pot with you and the cannibals are feasting on flambed long pork.

 

[Onboy123]

Give mine a try and let me know if you survive the experience!

Also I used a minute bit of the power limiter on the tune (99.9%) if the power limiter is off limits for this battle just add 2kg to the ballast. (yeah don't ask me how 0.1% power limiter that doesn't change either HP or torque is equal to 2kg but there it is...) The extra 2kg shouldn't really have much impact on the cars performance.

Ok then. I just had mine out, set a very nice 1:37.0xx, so yours should be in the high 1:36s.

I used a 50kg worth of ballast to use the extra power, but kept the 40/60 weight distribution…why, I have no idea. But drives quite nicely, slightly scary, but then not at all when you see that you're only going 70mph.

 

[XDesperado67]

Ok then. I just had mine out, set a very nice 1:37.0xx, so yours should be in the high 1:36s.

I used a 50kg worth of ballast to use the extra power, but kept the 40/60 weight distribution…why, I have no idea. But drives quite nicely, slightly scary, but then not at all when you see that you're only going 70mph.

Well you.should see speeds a bit faster than 70mph here, I was pushing 120mph at the start/finish line, problem is that if your not on the right line down the hill all you can do is pray for the best and keep the throttle wide open. Coming off throttle or heaven forbid hitting the brakes on a less than perfect line will only result in disaster, while if your reactions are fast enough you can sometimes muscle it through on full or nearly full throttle when taking a less perfect line. That's the biggest learning curve for this car is to not let up on the gas or hit the brakes unlike a normal sane car where that would help you regain control. Here the solution is often times even more throttle not less.

 

[Onboy123]

Sounds like you had a traumatic experience in that thing. Let's see if it really is that scary, eh?

 

[DaDog]

I put my Audi on share if any testers want to try it. I'm still fine tuning it.

After 5 laps i did manage a 1.18.575 , i'm sure it can go down about 0.5sec if i didn't screw up so much

 

[Onboy123]

After 5 laps i did manage a 1.18.575 , i'm sure it can go down about 0.5sec if i didn't screw up so much

So…current standings:

Me <-- lucky day, must be.
ACSR <--- given some more drives, he would take me, I know he will.
Krenkme <--- fix understeer, BAM! Right up there with us







Despy. <--- No internet, no car. No car, no place in rankings.




I'll be off to test ACSR's TT then. Sometime today.

 

[XDesperado67]

So…current standings:

Me <-- lucky day, must be.
ACSR <--- given some more drives, he would take me, I know he will.
Krenkme <--- fix understeer, BAM! Right up there with us
Despy. <--- No internet, no car. No car, no place in rankings.

I'll be off to test ACSR's TT then. Sometime today.

Test my "Purple People Eater" first!

I'll try hard to get the TT up today but no promises...

 

[Onboy123]

Test my "Purple People Eater" first!

I'll try hard to get the TT up today but no promises...

Wait, homework > dying in a bucket of purple rust.

Eh, it's either now, or 2 days later.

And just one thing:

PSN will be down from March 4th to March 5th
Remember to take currently shared cars down if you want to work on it in the downtime. Stating the obvious, but hey, whatever.

 

[Onboy123]

WOOOOO!!!! DOUBLE POST FOR THE 2nd TIME TODAY?!?!?!

Anyway, tested ACSR's TT. Epic. Though, unfortunately, I have to say that I'll have to sue you for copyrights. The toe settings are exactly the same as mine, the spring rates are fairly similar in their tuning 'concept', and the rear diff is also very similar to mine…

Only difference is, the results here, are much, much better.

Trial Mountain/Forward: 1:32.255
This is not a TT, is it? I know you cheated, just man up now, and we'll forgive you. Because this thing's cornering characteristics are more fitting for an R8, it's unbelievable. The turn-in is sharp, precise, like a scalpel, it doesn't feel like it plans on understeering anytime soon. It will, eventually, give in. There's only so much the tyres can take before it goes. But even then, simply backing off slightly is enough for it to tuck in and carry on shocking you with its cornering prowess. The only reason it's slower here than the rest is because it feels too nervous for my likings. It's not a hard car to drive, it just feels a bit unnerving. Which is a new experience in an Audi.

Deep Forest/Forward: 1:20.540
Here, the understeer is rearing its ugly head, but I am genuinely surprised how, though the settings for various parts look similar, this is so much more refined a drive than mine. This is more stable, it handles the power much better. If mine was the original Quattro, a car that was rough, harsh, aggressive, then this would be a RS4, refined, civil, yet still packs enough punch to worry cars above its league.


Standings (Temporary):

Lap times: Trial Mountain
Me
Krenkme
ACSR

Lap times: Deep Forest
Me
ACSR
Krenkme

Driver's choice:
Me, ACSR (tied)
Krenkme

For now, anyways.

 

[ACSR421]

After 5 laps i did manage a 1.18.575 , i'm sure it can go down about 0.5sec if i didn't screw up so much

Thanks DaDog, great time your an amimal at this track I'm down from a 1.19.757 to a 1.18.755 with some changes I made today. Have to wait and see if theres anymore speed in the car for ya after the psn maintenance.


Onboy said :"Anyway, tested ACSR's TT. Epic. Though, unfortunately, I have to say that I'll have to sue you for copyrights. The toe settings are exactly the same as mine, the spring rates are fairly similar in their tuning 'concept', and the rear diff is also very similar to mine…

Only difference is, the results here, are much, much better." I should have checked your build first I did change mine quite a bit today. I'm glad you liked it, now if us Outlaws can figure out a way to rid this Audi of its chronic understeer maybe DaDog can get in the 1.17s. That is if Krenkme doesn't beat us to it first.

 

[XDesperado67]

Okay just confirming things here...the TT battle is anything goes right? Only restriction is Sports Soft tires? Also test track is Deep Forest in the normal direction correct?

Still breaking "Devils Due" in but currently I'm running high 1:20.xxx I obviously have a bit of work to do

Oh and I'm aiming at making this a 525PP tune since that is what I bought the car for originally.

 

[ACSR421]

That's correct. Find a cure for the understeer for me.

 

[XDesperado67]

That's correct. Find a cure for the understeer for me.

Are you using a wing? I think the little bit of high speed understeer I have left is being caused mainly because of the fairly high downforce I'm running with the wing.rool:

Going to play with that and my ballast a bit and see if I can get it more to my liking.

 

[krenkme]

Okay just confirming things here...the TT battle is anything goes right? Only restriction is Sports Soft tires? Also test track is Deep Forest in the normal direction correct?

Still breaking "Devils Due" in but currently I'm running high 1:20.xxx I obviously have a bit of work to do

Oh and I'm aiming at making this a 525PP tune since that is what I bought the car for originally.

Yes, anything goes... including the surf board . Sport soft, Deap Forest/High Speed Ring forwords.

... and this bird is plucked

EDIT - HSR is just for top speed runs, not really part of the battle... unless

 

[XDesperado67]

Yes, anything goes... including the surf board . Sport soft, Deap Forest/High Speed Ring forwords.

... and this bird is plucked

EDIT - HSR os just for top speed runs, not really part of the battle... unless

If you get a chance give my "Purple People Eater" a try...
Just make sure the life insurance is paid up.

Oh and how did the karate master do yesterday?

 

[ACSR421]

No wing right now but a little rear downforce may pull some weight off the front.

 

[krenkme]

If you get a chance give my "Purple People Eater" a try...
Just make sure the life insurance is paid up.

Oh and how did the karate master do yesterday?

I will.👍

She got a silver for her forum, and a third place trophy for her sparing... oh and some pizza and ice cream for the hard work she did 👍

Sha sends a big "Thank you" to the Cafe and the Outlaws for wishing her luck. Thanks alot guys.


... okay, now back to war

EDIT - I can't right now, servers are down (I think)

 

[Onboy123]

Go girls!

Eh, PSN should be back in 8 hours time, just in time for you to wake up and log on, I think. I retuned my car, but forgot to take it off share.

I'm still waiting on your views on my TT, krenkme.

 

[krenkme]

Go girls!

Eh, PSN should be back in 8 hours time, just in time for you to wake up and log on, I think. I retuned my car, but forgot to take it off share.

I'm still waiting on your views on my TT, krenkme.

Servers went down before I had a chance to run yours. . Heading out right now, hope to be back home sometime tomorrow. I will run it then and give you some feedback.

 

[Onboy123]

Servers went down before I had a chance to run yours. . Heading out right now, hope to be back home sometime tomorrow. I will run it then and give you some feedback.

Ah, ok then. 👍 I made some adjustments to the tune in the hope of getting rid of the understeering, but it's not tested.

Edit: PSN is back up now. 👍

 

[krenkme]

Ah, ok then. 👍 I made some adjustments to the tune in the hope of getting rid of the understeering, but it's not tested.

Edit: PSN is back up now. 👍

I did some adjusting to mine (most likely made it worse ). I'll try and have my daughter put it back on share when she gets home from school. Maybe even give your car a run 👍

 

[comandorando87]

Anyways have no idea where commandorando plans on taking these but figure if it works well on Trial Mountain and Deep Forest it should do okay most places.

Sorry for the uber long delay on "The French Disconnection"(what do you guys think of the title?), but between my terrible internet connection of late(should FINALLY be fixed now. Despy I now fully sympothize with your net woes) and getting my brother Final Fantasy 13-2 for his birthday, I've been able to do no testing thus far save for krenkme's entry cuz he is quick with posting tunes:tup:. From here on out I will only be reviewing POSTED tunes(Onboy) so there won't be any "mine will be faster once I'm done with it!"(Onboy) nonsense. As for test tracks, I think TM is a good one as it seems most entries were tested there by the tuners. Also thinking about TGTT as a good short coarse, though any city coarses would be considered too, and I'm gonna let you lot tell me where you want the Showdown/Finale coarse too be. Its like a choose your own adventure book, but with gasoline!!!



p.s. No Nordschleife this time. I don't have the attention span for it