Unexpectedly Fast Cars & Sleepers
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It's the V10 from the Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 and that's A fact. Having worked on both cars quite alot (basically how I make A living) I can tell you that the engine is indeed de-tuned also. Yes, the R8 was built by quattro GmbH but they took the Gallardo's V10. Just so there is no argument I'm going to refer to Wikipedia just to prove to you and you can't argue the point anymore
..Wikipedia Quote
"A new V10 engined version of the R8 is now available, using a de-tuned version of their sister company's 5.2 litre FSI V10, used in the Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4. This variant produces 386 kilowatts (525 PS; 518 bhp) and 530 newton metres (391 ft·lbf)"
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- actionjeans
Surprised no one has mentioned the Honda Odyssey - that thing is AWD, handles very well, and can be tuned upwards of 450hp - quite funny racing online side by side an NSX at 140mph on the Nordschliefe.
RS6 is not a sleeper - it's a 580hp (STOCK btw) AWD station wagon. So I guess in that regard it doesn't give it's full hand away, but it is a crazy fast car. That's like saying the Porsche Panamerica is a sleeper - it isn't, it's just bat poop crazy fast, and happens to not be a coupe.
Not a total sleeper but I have a Miata that I can drive 10/10th's in, on Tsubuka I can hang and/or beat cars with 200hp more than me (and 100 more pp); it just has tons and tons of grip, brakes fantastic, and drives super easy.
RS6 is not a sleeper - it's a 580hp (STOCK btw) AWD station wagon. So I guess in that regard it doesn't give it's full hand away, but it is a crazy fast car. That's like saying the Porsche Panamerica is a sleeper - it isn't, it's just bat poop crazy fast, and happens to not be a coupe.
Not a total sleeper but I have a Miata that I can drive 10/10th's in, on Tsubuka I can hang and/or beat cars with 200hp more than me (and 100 more pp); it just has tons and tons of grip, brakes fantastic, and drives super easy.
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You think you are going to catch him in that dogpile Ferrari, it takes a Mopar to catch a Mopar son
Being a Mopar fan, I love this. However, even though the Hemi engine is very capable of making the power that it makes in the game, I am not sure there is any way to make a 4x4 ram handle like it is capable of handling in the game. If so, sing me up LOL.
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Considering I'm talking about the RS6... you're whole post is useless. And truth be told, I wouldn't flaunt Wiki as proof.It's the V10 from the Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 and that's A fact. Having worked on both cars quite alot (basically how I make A living) I can tell you that the engine is indeed de-tuned also. Yes, the R8 was built by quattro GmbH but they took the Gallardo's V10. Just so there is no argument I'm going to refer to Wikipedia just to prove to you and you can't argue the point anymore
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- neema_t
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/44487/lambo_v10_for_new_rs6.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_RS6#C6_powertrain
http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/audi-rs6-1005757.html
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2008/10/cars/audi/rs6/audi-rs6-avant-car-review
http://www.germancarforum.com/inter...els-audi-rs6-vs-lambo-gallardo-lp560-4-a.html
That's just the top few results if you google 'Audi RS6 Lamborghini Engine'. If you can be bothered to ctrl/cmd (if you're on a Mac)-F (or whatever it is you need to press to search a web page) and type 'Lamborghini' on each of those pages, you will see that you are, in fact, incorrect and should check your facts before making such assertions.
As for randomly fast cars, I think just about any car in the game can be tuned enough to be much faster than it looks like it should be, so it's hard to say. The Cuore TR-XX Avanzato R surprised me by being a lot faster than an EA21R RM with the same PP.
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Maybe if you bothered to read the first post for a change, you would know it's about randomly fast cars or, cars that you didn't think were fast and their speed surprised you.
P.S: I don't want to sound annoying but you should probably use proper grammar and spelling. The moderators here will eat you alive if you haven't read the AUP.
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The Caterham Seven. You may leave it for dead driving something else in a single race, but when you're the driver it's surprisingly quick.
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Long, but relative informative post incoming:
So, i took some time to share some cars with impressive specs that should be able to compete with the more commonly used top cars of GT5.
I haven't bothered with the cars that have already been mentioned here, but of these, I can say that i'd recommend the Caldina GT, Odyssey, C30, M3 GTR and the Kusabi. These don't only go fast for their class, but also handle superbly when tuned correct.
Now on to the cars that I have chosen to highligt. I've chosen to focus on the cars that produce the most BHP, which I guess is what the OP was asking for. It's also easier for me to spot these in the garage. Note that these aren't the only top sleepers that exist, just many of the ones that Im aware of:
Cars, that go faster than you would think: (sleepers: tuned and supposedly driveable ones. Tunes can be obtained from here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198751)
Jensen Interceptor MKIII 74': beautiful oldtimer with 700+ BHP. Very fast in a straigth line, a handful to control in corners. I'd recommend that you tune this car to make the most of it.
GTO 5.7 coupe 04': I haven't tried the available tunes for it as of yet, but I have it modded in my garage, and it sparks more than 800 BHP. I would suppose it's a quick car. Looks kind of normal too, adding to the sleeper effect.
Stagea 260 rs Autechversion 98': One of my favourite sleepers. Almost 600 BHP, and 4WD drive. Fast of the line, like, really fast, and with RVR's tune I've managed a 6.55 lap at the ring. Untuned, it likes to do insanely easy to hold 4wd drifts. What makes it even more satisfying is that it is what I would describe as a sporty mix of an SUV and small peoplecarrier, or MPV.
Eclipse gt 06': A FF car with 520 BHP is pretty unusual, which is why I think it deserves a mention. Since the tune that's available is quite new, I haven't tried it, but I think I'll givet it a go some time.
Holden Monaro CV8 04': Tried Skunkys tune, and had a lot of fun with it. Can't remember the characteristics of the car, but it's powerful and very quick with almost 750 BHP. Looks similar to the GTO.
Tom's X540 Chaser: Haven't tuned my own, but as the others, this car is powerful and should be checked out if you like sleepers. Mine's got 667 BHP, weighs under 1250 kg's and looks like a pretty standard, though a bit sporty, family car.
Lotus Carlton 90': Looks like your standard family sedan with an immense and not exactly pretty looking front bumper. However, it produces around 700 BHP and while I find that it doesn't handle well at all when untuned, some tunes might have changed this. Pretty common to see online for a sleeper, but that doesn't make it worse.
Supra RZ 97': Not sure if it classifies as a sleeper, but it's proper quick and there's a load of tunes available for it. 720 BHP makes it easy to understand why this is used as a tuner irl, and vice-versa.
Caddilac Cien Concept 02': As the supra this one is not really a sleeper, but it's not very common as well. 950+ BHP but hard to handle, so use a tune.
Holden Commodore SS 04': Haven't really driven this for a long time, but the specs are very similar to the Monaro. Can't say much more about this one myself unfortunately, but you might want to try it out.
Audi Pikes Peak Quattro 03': 730+ BHP, and looks like it would do fairly well at offroad driving. Again, the car wasn't desigened for all those BHP, so the handling is poor. Luckily, RVR released a tune for it, so the handling should have been sorted out by these guys.
*EDIT*Lotus Evora 09': Forgot to mention this, but it's amazing when tuned correct. I've used vengence's tune and it's amazing, one of the best I've tried yet. And I guess it also classifies as a sleeper, since it's kind of an underdog. Just think it deserves to be listed here as well. You have to try this one.
Cars, that has potential to go faster than you would think: (tuned cars, that have enough power, but are a challenge to drive; sadly, there are no tunes of the cars on gtp yet. If you feel like toying around with these and end up with a good result, please, do share them one way or another)
FX45 concept 02': 4WD, 600+ BHP, weighs 1250 kg. Surprisingly, no tune for this car, even though it needs one badly. Also, it looks good imo.
Aston Martin V8 Vantage ‘99: Why is there no tune for the only 900+ BHP Aston Martin here on gtp? It should be a no brainer, especially since it handles so awful in modded, but untuned conditions. Heavy, but powerful car, that would really benefit from a tune.
And last, but perhaps not least, a few cars that I haven't modded yet, but suspect to be rather fast when modded; (Both untuned and tuned cars)
Jaguar S-Type R 02': Well, I don't know If it will perform well, but my untouched model in my garage should have around 400 BHP after the oil change. The big engine, 4200 cc, should make it a powerful beast when tuned, and it looks like a pretty business type jag. I know i'll be modding this myself sooner rather than later. Unfortunately, no tunes exist for it though, so you migh find that it handles poorly.
Nuvolari Quattro 03': I haven't modded mine, since I only have one so far, and keeping that one stock. Think i'll dupe one as soon as possible though, since it has some amazing specs when modded. According to one of the tunes available, it has more than 850 BHP when tuned, and it's rather light for a car with that much power. Also, it's 4WD, and looks absolutely stunning imo.
Cizeta V16T 94': Not really a sleeper, but it seems to be quite quick and isn't commonly used online. 800+BHP. Look up the fully modded tune if you want to.
Jaguar XFR 10': Pretty much the same deal as with the Nuvolari; I've only got one, and I'm keeping it stock until I've duped it. It seems that the car can get modded to a high number of BHPs. However, there's only one tune for this car available on GTP, and it's for a stock version, so not certain about the car's performance when tuned.
And that's pretty much it. I'm sure that there's a fair number of muscle cars that will perform likewise when modded, but I'm not really into those, so I kept them off the list.
Hope you found the list useful.
So, i took some time to share some cars with impressive specs that should be able to compete with the more commonly used top cars of GT5.
I haven't bothered with the cars that have already been mentioned here, but of these, I can say that i'd recommend the Caldina GT, Odyssey, C30, M3 GTR and the Kusabi. These don't only go fast for their class, but also handle superbly when tuned correct.
Now on to the cars that I have chosen to highligt. I've chosen to focus on the cars that produce the most BHP, which I guess is what the OP was asking for. It's also easier for me to spot these in the garage. Note that these aren't the only top sleepers that exist, just many of the ones that Im aware of:
Cars, that go faster than you would think: (sleepers: tuned and supposedly driveable ones. Tunes can be obtained from here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198751)
Jensen Interceptor MKIII 74': beautiful oldtimer with 700+ BHP. Very fast in a straigth line, a handful to control in corners. I'd recommend that you tune this car to make the most of it.
GTO 5.7 coupe 04': I haven't tried the available tunes for it as of yet, but I have it modded in my garage, and it sparks more than 800 BHP. I would suppose it's a quick car. Looks kind of normal too, adding to the sleeper effect.
Stagea 260 rs Autechversion 98': One of my favourite sleepers. Almost 600 BHP, and 4WD drive. Fast of the line, like, really fast, and with RVR's tune I've managed a 6.55 lap at the ring. Untuned, it likes to do insanely easy to hold 4wd drifts. What makes it even more satisfying is that it is what I would describe as a sporty mix of an SUV and small peoplecarrier, or MPV.
Eclipse gt 06': A FF car with 520 BHP is pretty unusual, which is why I think it deserves a mention. Since the tune that's available is quite new, I haven't tried it, but I think I'll givet it a go some time.
Holden Monaro CV8 04': Tried Skunkys tune, and had a lot of fun with it. Can't remember the characteristics of the car, but it's powerful and very quick with almost 750 BHP. Looks similar to the GTO.
Tom's X540 Chaser: Haven't tuned my own, but as the others, this car is powerful and should be checked out if you like sleepers. Mine's got 667 BHP, weighs under 1250 kg's and looks like a pretty standard, though a bit sporty, family car.
Lotus Carlton 90': Looks like your standard family sedan with an immense and not exactly pretty looking front bumper. However, it produces around 700 BHP and while I find that it doesn't handle well at all when untuned, some tunes might have changed this. Pretty common to see online for a sleeper, but that doesn't make it worse.
Supra RZ 97': Not sure if it classifies as a sleeper, but it's proper quick and there's a load of tunes available for it. 720 BHP makes it easy to understand why this is used as a tuner irl, and vice-versa.
Caddilac Cien Concept 02': As the supra this one is not really a sleeper, but it's not very common as well. 950+ BHP but hard to handle, so use a tune.
Holden Commodore SS 04': Haven't really driven this for a long time, but the specs are very similar to the Monaro. Can't say much more about this one myself unfortunately, but you might want to try it out.
Audi Pikes Peak Quattro 03': 730+ BHP, and looks like it would do fairly well at offroad driving. Again, the car wasn't desigened for all those BHP, so the handling is poor. Luckily, RVR released a tune for it, so the handling should have been sorted out by these guys.
*EDIT*Lotus Evora 09': Forgot to mention this, but it's amazing when tuned correct. I've used vengence's tune and it's amazing, one of the best I've tried yet. And I guess it also classifies as a sleeper, since it's kind of an underdog. Just think it deserves to be listed here as well. You have to try this one.
Cars, that has potential to go faster than you would think: (tuned cars, that have enough power, but are a challenge to drive; sadly, there are no tunes of the cars on gtp yet. If you feel like toying around with these and end up with a good result, please, do share them one way or another)
FX45 concept 02': 4WD, 600+ BHP, weighs 1250 kg. Surprisingly, no tune for this car, even though it needs one badly. Also, it looks good imo.
Aston Martin V8 Vantage ‘99: Why is there no tune for the only 900+ BHP Aston Martin here on gtp? It should be a no brainer, especially since it handles so awful in modded, but untuned conditions. Heavy, but powerful car, that would really benefit from a tune.
And last, but perhaps not least, a few cars that I haven't modded yet, but suspect to be rather fast when modded; (Both untuned and tuned cars)
Jaguar S-Type R 02': Well, I don't know If it will perform well, but my untouched model in my garage should have around 400 BHP after the oil change. The big engine, 4200 cc, should make it a powerful beast when tuned, and it looks like a pretty business type jag. I know i'll be modding this myself sooner rather than later. Unfortunately, no tunes exist for it though, so you migh find that it handles poorly.
Nuvolari Quattro 03': I haven't modded mine, since I only have one so far, and keeping that one stock. Think i'll dupe one as soon as possible though, since it has some amazing specs when modded. According to one of the tunes available, it has more than 850 BHP when tuned, and it's rather light for a car with that much power. Also, it's 4WD, and looks absolutely stunning imo.
Cizeta V16T 94': Not really a sleeper, but it seems to be quite quick and isn't commonly used online. 800+BHP. Look up the fully modded tune if you want to.
Jaguar XFR 10': Pretty much the same deal as with the Nuvolari; I've only got one, and I'm keeping it stock until I've duped it. It seems that the car can get modded to a high number of BHPs. However, there's only one tune for this car available on GTP, and it's for a stock version, so not certain about the car's performance when tuned.
And that's pretty much it. I'm sure that there's a fair number of muscle cars that will perform likewise when modded, but I'm not really into those, so I kept them off the list.
Hope you found the list useful.
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In case anyone missed it we just finished a FF tuner competition in the tuner forum. Cars were limited to 500PP and Sport Soft tires and were tested by 7 different drivers at Great Valley Speedway. While there were a number of Integras involved there were many other cars there as well.
Most of these cars are fairly heavily restricted to reach 500PP so a word of advice...the next time someone comes rolling in with a rather nondescript FF of some sort, save the comments about fail wheel drives until after the race because they might just be a wolf dressed up as a Mazda Atenza or a Citroên C4 or a...well you get the picture I'm sure.
Oh and in case you missed it here's a link to the Shootout thread.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=209217
Most of these cars are fairly heavily restricted to reach 500PP so a word of advice...the next time someone comes rolling in with a rather nondescript FF of some sort, save the comments about fail wheel drives until after the race because they might just be a wolf dressed up as a Mazda Atenza or a Citroên C4 or a...well you get the picture I'm sure.
Oh and in case you missed it here's a link to the Shootout thread.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=209217
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It's the V10 from the Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 and that's A fact. Having worked on both cars quite alot (basically how I make A living) I can tell you that the engine is indeed de-tuned also. Yes, the R8 was built by quattro GmbH but they took the Gallardo's V10. Just so there is no argument I'm going to refer to Wikipedia just to prove to you and you can't argue the point anymore
Wikipedia Quote
"A new V10 engined version of the R8 is now available, using a de-tuned version of their sister company's 5.2 litre FSI V10, used in the Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4. This variant produces 386 kilowatts (525 PS; 518 bhp) and 530 newton metres (391 ft·lbf)"
Chicken and the egg, bro. The engine in the Lamborghini was/is developed and built by Audi. Sheesh.
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Yeah, it kind off took off. But glad I could help you out. I'll definetely be trying these cars out again as well, and tune the ones that haven't been already.
Not by myself though, have no idea how to actually make something that works well.
If ya need some help tuning that's kinda my thing bro. Just send me an friend request.
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Sleepers:
Midget II D type '98 = 5,458 Cr.
LEGNUM VR-4 Type V '98 = 20,911 Cr.
ODYSSEY '03 = 27,991 Cr.
Tiburon GT '01 = 29,329 Cr.
SKYLINE Sedan 350GT Type SP '06 = 38,000 Cr.
C30 R-Design '09 = 42,000 Cr.
AVANTIME '02 = 45,107 Cr.
KUSABI Concept '03 = 49,991 Cr.
typ2(T1) SambaBus '62 = 72,250 Cr.
Silverado SST Concept '02 = 94,935 Cr.
Credit to dabest2500 for this list. 👍
these are not really high performance, they just surprise a lot of people online, my favourite is the tiburon, it took out a 458 italia... not by much but it won
Agree with the Samba Bus 👍 you can tune it from approx 36bhp to close to 200bhp!! and when tuned for drift can surprise some people when you get the rears smoking
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- kris_2730
Thanks, I'll add you when my PS3 is back online. Don't think I'll be needing much help though, if any at all, since I don't really tune often or seriously.
Just some occasionally picking a random car, changing the sliders in good intentions and realising what I've done.
Also, just tried the dodge, and even I was a tad surprised how well it performed, for a pickupcar with 750 BHP, stock setup. Did you drive it stock-modded for the trial mountain time or did you fiddle with it beforehand? Just curious.
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- kris_2730
Would have thought so.
By the way, if you end up with a decent tune for some of the tune lacking cars, please do share them on your own thread. Not expecting you to do them, but you might as well spread the love if you happen to stumble upon it. Some of them really are to hard to control in order for them to be driven somewhat consistently, which is key for online racing.
By the way, if you end up with a decent tune for some of the tune lacking cars, please do share them on your own thread. Not expecting you to do them, but you might as well spread the love if you happen to stumble upon it. Some of them really are to hard to control in order for them to be driven somewhat consistently, which is key for online racing.
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