Unpopular Motorsport Opinions

[jake2013guy]

So... what.. the fact it's a month old affects the validity of your statements... how.. exactly? Does that somehow render them un-comment-on-able? Weak defence of your point of view is weak.

I'm just pointing it out. I wasn't defending my point of view and I thought that was clear. I'm just stating that it's already been discussed. I also said 'each to their own' pointing out that you have your own options.

 

[twitcher]

This is surely going to rile a few people up.

Barely dressed women for sexual appeal are pointless in any motorsport. When your series is looking for sexual appeal to create crowd engagement, you've made a mistake in your racing. The WEC has gone the right way in abolishing the pre-race grid girls because it should be the cars and the drivers on show.

Looks like your getting you're wish (or an attempt at it).

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/barcelona-party-seeks-clampdown-on-motogp-grid-girls-904105/

SJWs out of control, trying to control what everyone else does, smdh.

 

[jake2013guy]

Looks like your getting you're wish (or an attempt at it).

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/barcelona-party-seeks-clampdown-on-motogp-grid-girls-904105/

SJWs out of control, trying to control what everyone else does, smdh.

Nope. I watch motorsport for cars and not barely dressed women. I just see them as unnecessary. Nothing to do with the objectification of women. I watch motorsport for cars and exciting racing. You barely think about grid girls either before or after they're actually there. Yes, it gave motorsport sex appeal when it was first introduced and helped popularise it but that's not needed now.

 

[twitcher]

Nope. I watch motorsport for cars and not barely dressed women. I just see them as unnecessary. Nothing to do with the objectification of women. I watch motorsport for cars and exciting racing. You barely think about grid girls either before or after they're actually there. Yes, it gave motorsport sex appeal when it was first introduced and helped popularise it but that's not needed now.

Hugo Boss sponsors Mercedes, correct?

You actually think there should be laws or rules that tell Hugo Boss they are not allowed to have a fashion model stand next to their car?

Do you think women have no place in magazines either? If Hugo Boss want to place an add in a magazine, surely you wouldn't have an issue with an add that was a photo of a woman in Hugo Boss clothes standing next to a Merc F1 car?

....but you think it's "inappropriate", or something, for that same model to stand next to the same car at an actual race?

What happens if Merc happen to have a very good looking female team member who is the dedicated umbrella holder? They have a backup Hackman, so surely there's room on payroll for an umbrella holder. Should that job be reserved for "unnatractive" people so as not to send any kind of message?

C'mon man....it's political correctness out of control. If you don't want to pay attention to the girls, that's fine, your choice. But why stop an individual from standing next to a car, especially if they want to, are being paid to do so by the company who owns/sponsors the car.

 

[jake2013guy]

Hugo Boss sponsors Mercedes, correct?

You actually think there should be laws or rules that tell Hugo Boss they are not allowed to have a fashion model stand next to their car?

Do you think women have no place in magazines either? If Hugo Boss want to place an add in a magazine, surely you wouldn't have an issue with an add that was a photo of a woman in Hugo Boss clothes standing next to a Merc F1 car?

....but you think it's "inappropriate", or something, for that same model to stand next to the same car at an actual race?

What happens if Merc happen to have a very good looking female team member who is the dedicated umbrella holder? They have a backup Hackman, so surely there's room on payroll for an umbrella holder. Should that job be reserved for "unnatractive" people so as not to send any kind of message?

C'mon man....it's political correctness out of control. If you don't want to pay attention to the girls, that's fine, your choice. But why stop an individual from standing next to a car, especially if they want to, are being paid to do so by the company who owns/sponsors the car.

My point is that it has a very small effect on the show so what's the point. Grid girls are on the grid for 20 minutes at most and don't get any attention bar a bit of eye candy. If it wasn't for grid walks, you'd see them walking off the grid and that's it. Even with grid walks, you barely take notice of them on TV and when you're at the circuit you take notice of the cars coming out of the garage and not the girls again.
Even after the race, how long do you see them? 20 seconds at most? Maybe 1 stands on the podium but that's it. I'm not against them being used and like how they are used in Super GT as a part of the prize giving process. I'm not against it for political correctness so get that rubbish out of your head. They're barely used if at all. If they had another more obvious role for spectators, I'd see your point. But they're not.

 

[epic_apri_39]

I can't stand Andy Priaulx.

 

[Michelin Man]

Prior to his brief spell back in the BTCC 2 years ago, I respected Prilaux somewhat, he seemed like a fairly decent guy, and quick driver. But ever since he returned to the BTCC in 2015, my view has changed massively.

Not sure why considering he was in the BTCC before, but when he came back he just came off as this rather pretentious character, really quite stuck up as well, that and the fact he was rather bullish on the track and off it'd seem. It was almost as if because he was a triple WTCC champion and former ETCC, that he was "superior" than his fellow peers. I don't know, but my view of him has changed big time now that I've gotten an good idea what his like "in person", as I don't remember him too much when he was in the BTCC initially.

 

[Liquid]

Everyone talks about Eau Rouge when they should be talking about Raidillon.

 

[epic_apri_39]

Prior to his brief spell back in the BTCC 2 years ago, I respected Prilaux somewhat, he seemed like a fairly decent guy, and quick driver. But ever since he returned to the BTCC in 2015, my view has changed massively.

Not sure why considering he was in the BTCC before, but when he came back he just came off as this rather pretentious character, really quite stuck up as well, that and the fact he was rather bullish on the track and off it'd seem. It was almost as if because he was a triple WTCC champion and former ETCC, that he was "superior" than his fellow peers. I don't know, but my view of him has changed big time now that I've gotten an good idea what his like "in person", as I don't remember him too much when he was in the BTCC initially.

He also sent his son into the Ginetta Junior Scholarship, where he didn't win.

He entered the Ginetta Juniors anyway.

 

[Michelin Man]

Interesting, that I didn't know. I just assumed his son Seb was just "bought" into the Ginetta Juniors thanks his dads large "influence" shall we say . But the fact he entered him into the scholarship, lost and got in anyway is bit, iffy, somewhat unfair too...

 

[Com Fox]

Formula e is actually really enjoyable.

It doesn't have the noise and the fan boost is a bunch of 🤬 but I still enjoy the racing when I get to see it. Way more than in F1 or WEC.

 

[TDZdave]

Here's one im going to wear a bulletproof vest for...

I think an adaptation of the DPi rule set is required to help save manufacturers implement in prototype racing.

 

[Suzumiya]

Here's one im going to wear a bulletproof vest for...

I think an adaptation of the DPi rule set is required to help save manufacturers implement in prototype racing.

I haven't seen anywhere where that hasn't been accepted. It's pretty much what is keeping prototypes relevant now.

 

[TDZdave]

I haven't seen anywhere where that hasn't been accepted. It's pretty much what is keeping prototypes relevant now.

Yeah I've seen it. But what I've seen has more or less been a copy and paste of DPi. My suggestion would be to retain the bodywork and chassis regulations. Set the maximum power output to 650bhp and allow all pro driver lineups. I'd also suggest to keep that LMP2 regulations remain as is but get the Gibson twin turbocharged to make it more competitive against the manufacturers cars

 

[DesertPenguin09]

I would like a GT class that uses showroom cars meaning actual road cars anyone can buy and then LIGHTLY modifying them with the bare requirements for racing. I want something reminiscent of what originally ran at Le Mans. And as a more direct way of showing that the cars you see on the road are capable of lasting the 100,000 miles you expect to be able to put on it.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Dpi is completely rubbish. The cars are not even in performance and it's just Bop, Bop, Bop, Bop............

 

[Com Fox]

I would like a GT class that uses showroom cars meaning actual road cars anyone can buy and then LIGHTLY modifying them with the bare requirements for racing. I want something reminiscent of what originally ran at Le Mans. And as a more direct way of showing that the cars you see on the road are capable of lasting the 100,000 miles you expect to be able to put on it.

Isn't GT4?

Dpi is completely rubbish. The cars are not even in performance and it's just Bop, Bop, Bop, Bop............

Didn't Wayne Talor Racing still dominate after countless Bop against them?

 

[Suzumiya]

Dpi is completely rubbish. The cars are not even in performance and it's just Bop, Bop, Bop, Bop............

So like every other sports car category other than LMP1? and what happened to LMP1?

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Isn't GT4?

Still too modified for my idea. I mean literally just a roll cage, better brakes, suspension, tires, and lights for night time

 

[mustafur]

Still too modified for my idea. I mean literally just a roll cage, better brakes, suspension, tires, and lights for night time

Thats basically GT4 atleast the idea is.

 

[Downhill Dino]

@DesertPenguin09 Do you mean like Group A?

 

[DesertPenguin09]

I don't know motorsport history that well so there maybe? Isn't this what the original Le Mans was in the 20s and 30s? They just took their fastest production car and put it on the track (which was still really just road anyway) and saw what it could do. It wasn't until later that they started modifying the cars for longer races and then made entirely new cars just for the races

 

[TheCracker]

I don't know motorsport history that well so there maybe? Isn't this what the original Le Mans was in the 20s and 30s? They just took their fastest production car and put it on the track (which was still really just road anyway) and saw what it could do. It wasn't until later that they started modifying the cars for longer races and then made entirely new cars just for the races

I think even back in the 20's and 30's stuff that raced at Le Mans was purpose built for racing but the regulations, up until maybe the sixties or seventies, meant the cars had to be road legal as a requirement.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Then I'm making something all new bitches!

 

[Michelin Man]

I too will second the notion that DPi is the way to go, and much like @Suzumiya said, it's the only thing; with the exception of LMP2, keeping top level prototypes relevant.

I think it is a fantastic set of regs, and sure BoP will always be big feature, and yes Cadillac have still remained at the top despite the countless BoP's, but in a set regulations 1st full year of activity, isn't it to be somewhat expected that one team/manufacture gets a better grasp of the regs and develops a better car than the rest? After all BoP can only do so much, and at the end of day it's not Cadilliac/GM's fault they've developed a top-notch prototype. I think the great manufacture interest from the likes of Acura/Honda, Ford show that it's a set of regs with great promise.

But anyway back to the regs themselves, as hinted on above DPi could set a very good basis for a new set of prototype regs IMO. At least keeping the chassis the same, and perhaps setting a BHP limit at least and then go along from there; basically a further development/adaptation of what LMP2 currently is, since DPi isn't too far away, and I personally really like LMP2 currently.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

There's a good article on motorsport.com with Zak Brown and he agrees DPi could really work on a world stage. Set it to 650BHP and a $4 million budget ceiling and it could see a lot of manufacturers joining. He would be interested in McLaren joining DPi and I would LOVE to see their P1-inspired hypercar racer

 

[epic_apri_39]

I really like the look of the halo on the Formula 2 cars.

 

[Com Fox]

Closed-Cockpit F1 cars doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Used to be against it but after seeing that Mclaren concept open wheel with a Closed-Cockpit, a fighter jet style close cockpit could look really cool and can even be safer than a halo.

 

[Pete05]

Closed-Cockpit F1 cars doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Used to be against it but after seeing that Mclaren concept open wheel with a Closed-Cockpit, a fighter jet style close cockpit could look really cool and can even be safer than a halo.

Certainly better looking than what looks like the Driver's head sticking up through a thong

 

[LumpiestFish]

I really like the look of the halo on the Formula 2 cars.

It's been much better implemented than the test halos we've seen on the F1 cars.

The test halos have looked shocking, but once they become part of the regulations and teams use them as part of the design, then I think they will start to look much better.