Unpopular Opinions- Cars in General

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I'm reminded of a recent-ish commercial in which a handful of Dodge vehicles rampaged through an outdoor wedding reception. Sadly, I can't seem to find it on the YouTube. It may have been an SRT-specific commercial.
 
The Dodge Charger (new millennium Era) typifies a race-inclusive toxic masculinity better than any other car or truck on the market. From base model V6s to top of the line Hellcats; rear wheel drive or all wheel drive, there's a model out there for toxic males of all income levels and geographic locations.
Plus some of them even get to drive them for work too.
 
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Mostly Explorers Explorers around these parts.

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Oops. Funny typo.
 
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That is horrid.

The Bugatti EB110 actually looks fantastic.

I agree but is this unpopular? The Edonis created from an EB110 is pretty ugly but I don't seem to recall much disdain for the EB110's looks.
 
That is horrid.



I agree but is this unpopular? The Edonis created from an EB110 is pretty ugly but I don't seem to recall much disdain for the EB110's looks.
I have heard people complain about how the front headlights make the car ugly. I also agree that the Edonis is just awful.
 
I have heard people complain about how the front headlights make the car ugly.
A popular opinion is one that can't be stated as being objective or factual but which is widely held or is perceived to be widely held.

Unpopular opinions run contrary to popular opinions--go figure. These are not widely held; they may be controversial or possibly even inflammatory.

"I feel this way about this thing and I have met people who disagree with me" isn't in itself indicative of an unpopular opinion, though the opinion may still be unpopular.

Consider this for reference:

 
That is horrid.
It doesn't help that we, in North America, have no regulation saying that turn signals in the rear must be amber. You end up with a lot of these bumper mounted turn signals being red in colour, which only compounds the issue. I'm not sure which model exactly but I'm pretty sure I've seen some Korean branded SUV with this horrible design.
 
The Tesla Model 3 is the ugliest car currently in production.

And I say that as someone who lives where the Nissan Juke is built.

I simply must disagree with you on this. The Tesla Model Y is more ungainly than the Model 3. It looks more top-heavy and the proportions seem wrong.
 
The original Model S was handsome. More than the original Roadster, even. Actually...I don't particularly care for the original Roadster. Thing is...every new thing they've come out with has outdone the previous thing in ugliness. The exception is the Cybertruck (or however it's spelled/stylized); it's not attractive but at least it's not a blob. It might be in my top three with the Roadster but waaaaaaaaaay below the original Model S.
 
Question: Are you counting trucks in this case?
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I’d say yes. That Chevy has an ugly front but at least it has a decent truck shaped profile. The recent Teslas just look like bloated versions of the Model S with no good definition.

The original Model S was handsome. More than the original Roadster, even. Actually...I don't particularly care for the original Roadster. Thing is...every new thing they've come out with has outdone the previous thing in ugliness. The exception is the Cybertruck (or however it's spelled/stylized); it's not attractive but at least it's not a blob. It might be in my top three with the Roadster but waaaaaaaaaay below the original Model S.

I agree, the Model S with the “grille” was decent looking and it’s all been downhill from there.
 
On a side note, heavy duty or not, these trucks nowadays are monstrously oversized. And yet, somehow, the beds still aren't large enough to haul a lot of stuff without dropping the tailgate. They seem to all have ultra large and luxurious cabs which I find pointless.
They are built and bought for "family sedan" duty now, partly thanks to CAFE artificially pushing Detroit and their consumers to larger SUVs and trucks.

When I'm walking my dog, a street-parked modern pickup is like someone erected a 🤬 brick wall into the right-of-way. I respect the utility of pickups, but I miss when they were more utilitarian and commonly smaller. I can't not hate parking, driving, or walking around so many utterly gigantic modern pickups.
 
In an age of concerns over the efficiency of vehicles, the push to sell large, heavy SUVs and pickups deserves to be condemned.

From the engineering perspective, the most straightforward and effective way to make vehicles more efficient is to reduce weight. Why we have moved from predominantly hatchbacks and saloons to SUVs and pickups (for the general, normal, road user) whilst trying to do this is completely beyond me.

"It's what the consumer wants! More space and amenities!". Yeah, well, in times like these, staring down the barrel of such challenges, the consumer can, to be honest, piss right off.

This isn't an unpopular opinion, but it could do with being more popular than it is.

EDIT: I am not saying we go back to tin boxes like the Mk 1 Clio, Peugeot 205 etc, a modern car does owe some of its comparatively sizable wasteline to such things as improved crash structure, but we could do with a decent diet for the average road car.
 
The MB SLR McLaren is an ugly and terrible looking car:

You cannot prove me wrong, it has all the wrong proportions:

I think it's one of the most gorgeous modern Merc's ever made :lol: but yeah the proportions are a little extreme.
 
The "footprint" standard under the current CAFE regulations have given manufacturers an inherent incentive to building larger vehicles above and beyond even the light truck nonsense that allowed them to balance Dodge Ram sales with PT Cruisers.

You can buy very space efficient lightweight Fiesta (before they vanish from dealer lots) that won't meet Obama CAFE standards and will fall further and further behind them at a rapid rate because of how much small cars are targeted by the rules; or you can buy an EcoSport that easily meets the dramatically lower light truck standards and will for the foreseeable future because the standards for light trucks also increase at a much slower rate; or you can go full out and buy a full size Expedition because its fuel economy targets are 2/3rds that of a compact crossover and half that of a compact car.





And Ford will happily collect the extra profit margin from you while discontinuing its entire passenger car line and grandstanding about how woke they are for going against Trump's attempt to rollback the Obama standards they are doing very little to actually meet. And since the CAFE formula was decided using sales models that were laughably incorrect even at the time, it's only going to get worse now that manufacturers are gutting their product ranges.
 
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"It's what the consumer wants! More space and amenities!". Yeah, well, in times like these, staring down the barrel of such challenges, the consumer can, to be honest, piss right off.
Ill-conceived federal regulations (see @Tornado's post) shaping the market aren't exactly "what the consumer wants". On the other hand, we also have so many SUVs and crossovers because of economics and demographics; new car purchases have skewed older because younger people cannot afford and/or aren't even interested in them, and older buyers have an easier time getting into and out of vehicles with taller seating.

For the "Save the Manuals!" crowd, I have also determined that CAFE is responsible for hastening the demise of manuals in the U.S. The small difference in their EPA-rated mileage from an automatic or CVT costs companies more in penalties than they're willing to justify even if they have a loyal minority of buyers.
 
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The Lamborghini Countach is overrated. I don't think the styling has aged well at all; it looks like a product of it's time rather than something that transcends it. The car is also unreliable, cramped, impractical and horrible to live with. You can't see out the back of it and you have to sit on the door sill to back it up. Supercars aren't known for being practical but my god are the modern ones easier to live with than a Countach.
 
The Lamborghini Countach is overrated. I don't think the styling has aged well at all; it looks like a product of it's time rather than something that transcends it. The car is also unreliable, cramped, impractical and horrible to live with. You can't see out the back of it and you have to sit on the door sill to back it up. Supercars aren't known for being practical but my god are the modern ones easier to live with than a Countach.
I'm not huge on the original, but I love the updated S versions with the V-wing, fender flares and such. I still think that particular styling looks fantastic. A great poster car, but not so much to drive as you mentioned.
 
The car is also unreliable, cramped, impractical and horrible to live with. You can't see out the back of it and you have to sit on the door sill to back it up. Supercars aren't known for being practical but my god are the modern ones easier to live with than a Countach.
This can be said about a vast majority of classic supercars. No supercar was seen as being very usable or practical, really until the Honda NSX.

I do agree with the Countach being a bit overrated. I do think the reason why it is so beloved is because it was a "Poster Car" of many people in the '80s, and I have to admit, even though I wouldn't call it beautiful, The countach, especially in it's later years is still incredibly striking.
 
I agree with the Countach being overrated. I personally find it uglier than it's competitors, and while I've seen people praise the Testarossa or the 930 Turbo, it's difficult to see someone geniounely say the Countach was good for anything other than a poster. I do quite like the original prototype and the LP400, tho. Everything after that is just tacky and ugly.

Also for a more original unpopular opinion; I hate central driving positions. I know why they make sense and why certain cars had them, but I personally hate when I'm driving with someone at the back (when the front seat is empty), and in cars with central driving position and two seats on the sides and behind the driver's seat, passengers are always behind, and uncomfortably close too. Possibly the worst thing about the McLaren Speedtail and the Murray T.50, both cars I love but if I were to own them I'd treat them as single seaters. At least they have some extra space for groceries or whatever.
 
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This is the ugliest version of the Impreza that Subaru has ever made. I will never understand how people preferred this over the much more coherent looking GR hatch, or it's blob-eye/bug-eye predecessors.
 

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