Update 1.32 (January Update) speculation thread - update released!

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The first gen MX-5 must appear soon otherwise I'll meet PD on the court





Couldn't it be a Gr.B car?

No, for the same reason the GT1 car from the 90s wouldn't be in the GR. 2.

 

[MisterWaffles]

I'd really just love an update with Gr.3 and Gr.4 versions of the modern road cars that have been added to the game thus far.

Stuff like an Alpine A110 Gr.3/4, BMW M3 Gr.4, Aston Martin DB11 Gr.3/4, Maserati GranTurismo Gr.3/4 and so on.

Also, figure out the licensing with Lotus already. There's two free cars into the game with no modelling effort spent.

 

[juanffy18]

For giggles:

TRACK-
Used to be real/fictional/real/fictional until Fuji/RBR/Catalunya broke the cycle. Assuming that fictional 3x/real 3x is the new thing until March, fantasy track time. No idea, so default-ish suggestion of Deep Forest.

CARS:
Average of eight cars per update the last few go-arounds.

1. Series favorite/stalwart, 3000GT VR4/Starion from later in it's production run.
2. Stalwart 2, Toyota TS020
3. Newcomer, Lancia 037
4. Newcomer 2, 2019 ZR1 Corvette
5. Oddball sure to cause contention amongst the SIMRACING IS SUPERSERIOUS/RACING FOR FUN IS FORBIDDEN crowd, it's the small boi Daihatsu Midget II. (Or, if I get my way, the BIG BOI Dodge SRT-10 Regular Cab)
6. Returning premium, 2010 Honda CR-Z
7. Returning premium, 2007 Lexus IS-F
8. Returning premium, 1965 Shelby GT350

You know, is necessary the Toyota TS020 comes with Nissan R390GT1 the eternal Le mans rivals from GT franchise since GT2.

So, bearing in mind my contribution to the news site today, my speculation is:

Date - January 4th
Track - Real; Most likely candidates are Silverstone and that one in Belgium.
Cars - Eight
1. Mazda MX-5 (NA) 1989 - N100
2. Nissan Fairlady Z Z34 2008 - N300
3. Honda Civic (EK) Type R 1997 - N200
4. Pagani Huayra 2013 - N700
5. Pozzi MotorSports Camaro RS (2011 SEMA GT Award) - N500
6. Cizeta V16T 1994 - N500
7. Panoz Esperante GTR-1 1997 - Gr.2?
8. Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak 1997 - Gr.X

Wow MX-5, Huayra, Esperante and Escudo, you killing the list, realistic as possible.
Maybe the Esperante goes to GR.1 class like Group C cars.

 

[Famine]

7. Panoz Esperante GTR-1 1997 - Gr.2?

Actually, I've changed my mind on this. Firstly, it'd be two returning brands (Panoz, Cizeta) within one update again - that's happened four times, and in two paired updates (1.06 then 1.10; 1.29 then 1.31). Secondly, Panoz was the stumbling block that nearly saw the DeltaWing withdrawn from GT6 - Panoz wanted a huge licensing fee (reportedly $1,000,000), and I recall it was only settled because the image rights weren't entirely clear due to the Gestalt nature of the DeltaWing Racing company (parts owned by Nissan, Panoz, AAR and Michelin). That makes Panoz appearing as a brand again less likely.

So let's say... oooooh...

7. Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR 1997 - Gr.1

 

[iFerrari]

Actually, I've changed my mind on this. Firstly, it'd be two returning brands (Panoz, Cizeta) within one update again - that's happened four times, and in two paired updates (1.06 then 1.10; 1.29 then 1.31). Secondly, Panoz was the stumbling block that nearly saw the DeltaWing withdrawn from GT6 - Panoz wanted a huge licensing fee (reportedly $1,000,000), and I recall it was only settled because the image rights weren't entirely clear due to the Gestalt nature of the DeltaWing Racing company (parts owned by Nissan, Panoz, AAR and Michelin). That makes Panoz appearing as a brand again less likely.

So let's say... oooooh...

7. Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR 1997 - Gr.1

First car from the LMP900/GT1 era I would like to think that PD would focus more on some iconic GT car, this case being the GT-ONE. Just my hopes tho

 

[V1LR-GUE10]

lol my turn...

Track: Silverstone, Laguna Seca or Sonoma (Infineon)
9 Cars:
- Lexus LFA/LFA Nürb Package '10/'12
- Bentley Speed 8 '03
- Fisker Karma EcoSport '12
- Pagani Huayra '13
- BMW M5 '08
- Mercedes Benz C63 AMG '08
- Infiniti G35 Coupe '06
- Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) '02
- Ford GT '17

 

[wagnerFAM98]

Speculation time, I'll have my guesses;

Tracks
If real - Silverstone
If fictional - Deep Forest

Cars
1 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09 - returning premium
2 - Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '03 - returning premium
3 - Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) '93 - returning standard
4 - Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07 - returning premium
5 - Plymouth Superbird '70 - returning standard
6 - Nissan Silvia K's Dia Selection (S13) '90 - returning premium
7 - Mercedes SL55 AMG (R230) '02 - returning premium
8 - Renault Sport Clio V6 24V '00 - returning premium
9 - Jaguar XJ220 '92 - returning standard

 

[Nielsen]

I’ve tried to come up with a car list twice now, but I keep realizing that my efforts would be wiser spent trying to guess all lottery numbers next week.

Still, it’s enjoyable to read these lists, and I’m sure someone will end up with one or two correct predictions.

 

[ScottPuss20]

So, bearing in mind my contribution to the news site today, my speculation is:

Date - January 4th
Track - Real; Most likely candidates are Silverstone and that one in Belgium.
Cars - Eight
1. Mazda MX-5 (NA) 1989 - N100
2. Nissan Fairlady Z Z34 2008 - N300
3. Honda Civic (EK) Type R 1997 - N200
4. Pagani Huayra 2013 - N700
5. Pozzi MotorSports Camaro RS (2011 SEMA GT Award) - N500
6. Cizeta V16T 1994 - N500
7. Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR 1997 - Gr.1
8. Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak 1997 - Gr.X

Yet my post wasn't speculation... OK

 

[Stephan]

Alright here's mine:

Tracks: Spa, Silverstone, or Deep Forest

Cars:
1. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX '05 (returning premium)
2. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME '99 (returning premium)
3. Mitsubishi GTO VR-4 Turbo '98 (the premium converted car)
4. Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 Superveloce '09 (returning premium)
5. Audi R10 TDI '06 (returning premium)
6. Jaguar XKR-S '12 (returning premium)
7. Dodge Challenger SRT-8 '08 (returning premium)
8. Ferrari 430 Scuderia '09 (returning premium)

Now the reason I put three Mitsus there is because if the update is anything like the January Update this year, I replaced the three Toyotas with Mitsus.

The Audi R10 on the other hand is the race car of the update since there has been at least one race car in each update (save for some).

 

[Famine]

Yet my post wasn't speculation... OK

Your post was a wishlist. Look:

I would want some LMP900 cars such as the Bentley Speed 8, Audi R8 and BMW V12 LMR.

Mine isn't a wish list - I have expressed no desire for those vehicles to be present in the game (and to be honest I'd only choose to drive one of them). Mine is a speculation. Speculation is "reasoning based on evidence". What you want isn't speculation, it's a desire. I feel that we've been through this already.

The evidence for my speculation is all the updates that have happened before and the distribution of nationalities and types of vehicles therein, including Gr:N ratio and returning cars from previous GT games. I even changed my mind on one of them, giving more evidence for my reasoning why. There's an article on the GTP news page today covering the frequency of updates (28.7 days), the numbers of cars (7.9) and tracks (2.5 - more if fictional, less if real), and the types of cars found in the updates. Thus "bearing in mind my contribution to the news site today".

 

[G.T.Ace]

7. Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR 1997 - Gr.1

As much as I want this car, it would be ridiculous in Gr.1.
This would be even more stupid than the Group C cars.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Your post was a wishlist. Look:

Mine isn't a wish list - I have expressed no desire for those vehicles to be present in the game (and to be honest I'd only choose to drive one of them). Mine is a speculation. Speculation is "reasoning based on evidence". What you want isn't speculation, it's a desire. I feel that we've been through this already.

The evidence for my speculation is all the updates that have happened before and the distribution of nationalities and types of vehicles therein, including Gr:N ratio and returning cars from previous GT games. I even changed my mind on one of them, giving more evidence for my reasoning why. There's an article on the GTP news page today covering the frequency of updates (28.7 days), the numbers of cars (7.9) and tracks (2.5 - more if fictional, less if real), and the types of cars found in the updates. Thus "bearing in mind my contribution to the news site today".

And that makes a difference? Because I say I want? Ok fine, I'll change my post to say:

"I think that LMP900 cars may show up in the game, as they were prominent in the likes of GT4. As we have some iconic Group C cars present, I have reason to suspect that they could show up"

 

[sems4arsenal]

Actually, I've changed my mind on this. Firstly, it'd be two returning brands (Panoz, Cizeta) within one update again - that's happened four times, and in two paired updates (1.06 then 1.10; 1.29 then 1.31). Secondly, Panoz was the stumbling block that nearly saw the DeltaWing withdrawn from GT6 - Panoz wanted a huge licensing fee (reportedly $1,000,000), and I recall it was only settled because the image rights weren't entirely clear due to the Gestalt nature of the DeltaWing Racing company (parts owned by Nissan, Panoz, AAR and Michelin). That makes Panoz appearing as a brand again less likely.

So let's say... oooooh...

7. Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR 1997 - Gr.1

I would like to see the reaction of the PD employee when he found out Panoz asked for a million dollars Wow

 

[Nielsen]

And that makes a difference? Because I say I want? Ok fine, I'll change my post to say:

"I think that LMP900 cars may show up in the game, as they were prominent in the likes of GT4. As we have some iconic Group C cars present, I have reason to suspect that they could show up"

Your reasoning needs to be grounded in logic derived from established patterns. Changing a word means little when you’ve already presented it as personal wishes.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Your reasoning needs to be grounded in logic derived from established patterns. Changing a word means little when you’ve already presented it as personal wishes.

Thus suggesting that I have applied no logic at all.

 

[Famine]

And that makes a difference? Because I say I want?

Yes. Words have specific meanings.

 

[Nielsen]

Thus suggesting that I have applied no logic at all.

No, I’m not saying that your elaboration has flawed logic. I’m not here to judge anyone’s logic.

I’m just saying that predictions are more valid and useful if people avoid hints of personal wishes altogether.

For example:

“I want another Subaru and I think it’s likely because...” The word “want” creates bias and thereby somewhat defeats the validity of any speculation that might follow. Don’t take it the wrong way.

 

[V1LR-GUE10]

Here’s another one...

Track: Spa, Deep Forest or Mid-Field
9 Cars:
- Honda Civic Type R (EK) '97
- Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
- Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale '11
- Cadillac CTS-V Coupe '11
- Audi R8 LMS Team Phoenix '12
- McLaren F1 GTR-BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) '95
- Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat '15
- Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge '14
- Ford Focus RS '16

 

[Satomiblood]

My guesses:

Track: Twin Ring Motegi

Cars:
1. Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo ‘96
2. Honda Civic Type R ‘97
3. Pagani Huayra ‘13
4. Chevy Camaro Z28 302 ‘69
5. Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak ‘98
6. Mazda MX-5 Miata (NA) ‘89
7. Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary ‘88

 

[DavidMonoy97]

lol my turn...

Track: Silverstone, Laguna Seca or Sonoma (Infineon)
9 Cars:
- Lexus LFA/LFA Nürb Package '10/'12
- Bentley Speed 8 '03
- Fisker Karma EcoSport '12
- Pagani Huayra '13
- BMW M5 '08
- Mercedes Benz C63 AMG '08
- Infiniti G35 Coupe '06
- Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) '02
- Ford GT '17

Speculation time, I'll have my guesses;

Tracks
If real - Silverstone
If fictional - Deep Forest

Cars
1 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09 - returning premium
2 - Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '03 - returning premium
3 - Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) '93 - returning standard
4 - Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07 - returning premium
5 - Plymouth Superbird '70 - returning standard
6 - Nissan Silvia K's Dia Selection (S13) '90 - returning premium
7 - Mercedes SL55 AMG (R230) '02 - returning premium
8 - Renault Sport Clio V6 24V '00 - returning premium
9 - Jaguar XJ220 '92 - returning standard

I agree with either one of you.

 

[Nielsen]

1. Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo ‘96

This car gets mentioned a lot, which is understandable given the recent additions of the Supra RZ,
RX-7 Spirit R, 300 ZX TT and NSX-R. However, why are people nearly always referring to the '96 version when there was an awesome facelift in 1999?

 

[V1LR-GUE10]

This car gets mentioned a lot, which is understandable given the recent additions of the Supra RZ,
RX-7 Spirit R, 300 ZX TT and NSX-R. However, why are people nearly always referring to the '96 version when there was an awesome facelift in 1999?

IKR the facelifted version looks better...

 

[Stephan]

This car gets mentioned a lot, which is understandable given the recent additions of the Supra RZ,
RX-7 Spirit R, 300 ZX TT and NSX-R. However, why are people nearly always referring to the '96 version when there was an awesome facelift in 1999?

Same. The '99 version is much better.

Though I think it's partly due to it being memorable especially back in the original Gran Turismo (900+HP GTO anyone?)

 

[V1LR-GUE10]

Same. The '99 version is much better.

Though I think it's partly due to it being memorable especially back in the original Gran Turismo (900+HP GTO anyone?)

Lol mine had 938 HP in GT6...

 

[Stephan]

Lol mine had 938 HP in GT6...

It's more of a nostalgic value. I remember most peeps who played GT1 using that specific version of the GTO and tune it up to 900+HP for the Megaspeed Cup back in GT1.

 

[Satomiblood]

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what year gets in as long as the car makes an appearance. The ‘96 is just memorable to a lot of us that played the original Gran Turismo. It was also a stupidly fast car when fully upgraded and racing modified. It was virtually untouchable.

 

[Strittan]

So let's say... oooooh...

7. Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR 1997 - Gr.1

If this is true it’d be quite awesome.

 

[05XR8]

Pop ups, for the epicness they are

Some of the Greatest cars on the planet, have pop ups. Miura, Countach, Corvette, Hachiroku, NSX, Supra, F40, RX-7, AZ-1, the list goes on and on.

 

[RaphaelM]

My predictions:
Tracks, if real: spa or silverstone, if not: deep forest , mid field or high speed ring

Cars: 10
LFA
EVO IX or VII
XJ220
GTO
3000GT
BENTLEY SPEED 8
TOYOTA TS020 GT1
CLK LM GTR
PORSCHE GT1 LM 98 (new to the game)
PAGANI HUAYRA

Would be a very very good update...