Update Patch 1.08 is up

[AUS_Topgear]

true when you look at that aspect of it...but glitches have been around as long as there have been video games. No game is glitch free...so why try to be something that you can't be? Patch it if you find it...but to let something happen relentlessly while knowing of it...really isn't showing much pride in your program. PD should have removed the SS7 course as soon as the glitch was first exposed. By allowing people to exploit it..they opened the door to the candy shop and turned their back. I blame PD for allowing it to happen more than I blame the people who exploited it.

What have they just done, they have fixed it and as soon as they noticed it. Do you really think these things can be fixed any quicker? PD are the leaders at the moment in this area. No one is complaining they fixed it just justifying their use of it. I new they would fix it and quickly that’s why i had a few late nights, still haven't got all cars i wanted or XP but now have some cars i really wanted and would have had to wait for months for.

 

[phlyerphanatic]

See I haven't been paying that much attention to the board and usually only play online with friends so haven't seen the SS7 glitch rooms and only heard about it on the board here about a week ago. So in my mind it felt like it sort of exploded out of control a week ago and if that was the case then a patch a week later feels right.

I personally don't fault either side. I've always thought of all types of hacking as something of a chess match. Someone finds a hole they patch it, they find another hole they patch it.

I think as software becomes more complex that is just how things go. Even the best programmers with decent size staffs and a couple hundred beta testers can't shake down software like the public does when you get millions testing things there are bound to be things even the best beta tests missed.

Which is precisely my point. There will always be someone smarter. Another glitch will be found...it will be patched...and another will be found..and so on. Patch them as you find them is a good rule of thumb...but yanking the course the glitch is on is admitting an error was made and it is being rectified. Allowing thousands of people to exploit something while you tweak and tweak...is pretty much aiding and abetting.

 

[olCOWBOYSlo]

He's taking it personally because he just realised no more easy money...poor little didums can't cheat any more awww what a shame hahaha.

Well Obviously everyone would just be as happy as you are that they take a glitch out to make easy money because if you sa you got all your money "ligitly" then i say you sir have no life at all, no one really wants sit there for hours grinding Indy just to barely make enough for the car you want just to find another one you want and not have the money for it and return to section 1 for the whole process again, don't get me wrong it was good they patched it, but now everyone will have to go back to grinding due to the lack of events in this game, it was shipped unfinished, the only thing PD was copy most of the cars from GT4 over to GT5, if only they could have done that with the Events too, personally i liked being able to chose which Endurance i wanted to do when i unlocked them at 25%....hell the First one i did was the 24 Hours of Le Mans I to get my FGT in GT4

 

[Dmarc_Atl]

Dya' know what's so funny about all this, we've still not had any undeniable proof that it's genuine.
One guy posted a screenshot with a suspect date and another posted one which was apparently taken in the UK but I'm in the UK and that was not how my GT.com screen looked - there were no update details at all.
How do we know these people - no offence intended - aren't just handy with Photoshop?

Does anyone actually have any undeniable proof of this being 100% genuine?
Thanks

THANX !! because I was obviously talking to you.

 

[Tommy_861]

No there not! Most that have done the glitch are accomplished ONLINE GTers who now have the cars to do some real good races online. You will now see a lot more lobbies open because they don't have to wast valuable online time repeat repeat repeating the ingame races to earn money to buy the cars to race online. The racing games have evolved and online racing is now a big part of them if not the main game, it’s far more of a reward to beat a good real driver than a crappy Ai driver (everyone complains about them) and to have a game that requires you to grind ingame races keeping you from the real thing is living in the passed. You can still have it in the game for the ones who like it (i still do) but have the online part of the game set up so you can jump straight into the best competition in the best car, and because of the glitch i got that now. If the glitch whingers just stayed in the offline game they so strongly believe in they wouldn’t even have known about the glitch let alone bitch so much about it. I bet the ones complaining the most don’t do much online and most likely are not good enough too, you know the ones, they learnt to drive from crappy AI and use other cars to bounce off to get round corners then rage quit when they loose.

I'm sorry but this is a pretty lame justification. Just say you wanted money and more cars and so be it.

I have 250 cars in this game so far, and I have a car that can win in ANY race situation I could end up in (my driving sometimes on the other hand can't win), you do not need to own every car in this game to be able to have cars fast enough to win or have good competitive races.

Stop trying to justify yourself and just admit the truth you just wanted more cash and cars. Nobody's gonna hate you for it, and you're not going to hell or jail.

 

[grumblecat]

Which is precisely my point. There will always be someone smarter. Another glitch will be found...it will be patched...and another will be found..and so on. Patch them as you find them is a good rule of thumb...but yanking the course the glitch is on is admitting an error was made and it is being rectified. Allowing thousands of people to exploit something while you tweak and tweak...is pretty much aiding and abetting.

See I don't know the structure of the software, it might not be simple to pull a course. And there is also some thought on my part that disabling part of the game would likely be more frowned upon. I know if I didn't have access to something for legit reasons because others were using it for non legit reasons would annoy me.

Which comes back to my take on gaming in general. I could care less if you run the same race every day over and over so you can buy pink paint chips and paint all 1000 cars pink if that makes you happy rock on.

If there is a glitch out there that doesn't effect performance for me and my use of the game have at it, have a great time if that is making your experience better. I am not mad not knowing or knowing really I couldn't care less.

In this case it seems like PD might have had some concern that use would impair online performance for the overall user base and they are fixing it I can get behind that. But I have zero issue with anyone who used if that enhanced their enjoyment good for them.

I guess I never understood people worrying about the purity of others gaming. I haven't done a lot of this stuff not because I think people shouldn't I just have to much else going on to bother with it. But everyone else should have a great time doing what makes them happy.

 

[garbuckle]

No there not! Most that have done the glitch are accomplished ONLINE GTers who now have the cars to do some real good races online. You will now see a lot more lobbies open because they don't have to wast valuable online time repeat repeat repeating the ingame races to earn money to buy the cars to race online. The racing games have evolved and online racing is now a big part of them if not the main game, it’s far more of a reward to beat a good real driver than a crappy Ai driver (everyone complains about them) and to have a game that requires you to grind ingame races keeping you from the real thing is living in the passed. You can still have it in the game for the ones who like it (i still do) but have the online part of the game set up so you can jump straight into the best competition in the best car, and because of the glitch i got that now. If the glitch whingers just stayed in the offline game they so strongly believe in they wouldn’t even have known about the glitch let alone bitch so much about it. I bet the ones complaining the most don’t do much online and most likely are not good enough too, you know the ones, they learnt to drive from crappy AI and use other cars to bounce off to get round corners then rage quit when they loose.

Odd

1) Wouldn't "accomplished" GT'ers have an extensive garage by now? I'm nowhere near an expert and I figure I could find an appropriate car in my garage of 950 unique cars.
2) The discussions I've seen about the glitch have not been about people making a few quick credits for the one car they need, but for people who are stockpiling cars and cash, as if a nuclear war was about to break out, and they need provisions
3) The other type of people you are referring to are known as the general public. I happen to be one of them. I, however, have realized that there is little point to the online aspect for me because I know I'm not good enough, and I just don't want to deal with the immature behaviour seen online.

Again, that's just my personal opinion, and I'm not ranting or crying about any of this... I just want people to realize this isn't a life or death issue. It's just a game and people will play how they want. Just respect other people's opinions, even if it doesn't agree with your own.

 

[phlyerphanatic]

See I don't know the structure of the software, it might not be simple to pull a course. And there is also some thought on my part that disabling part of the game would likely be more frowned upon. I know if I didn't have access to something for legit reasons because others were using it for non legit reasons would annoy me.

Which comes back to my take on gaming in general. I could care less if you run the same race every day over and over so you can buy pink paint chips and paint all 1000 cars pink if that makes you happy rock on.

If there is a glitch out there that doesn't effect performance for me and my use of the game have at it, have a great time if that is making your experience better. I am not mad not knowing or knowing really I couldn't care less.

In this case it seems like PD might have had some concern that use would impair online performance for the overall user base and they are fixing it I can get behind that. But I have zero issue with anyone who used if that enhanced their enjoyment good for them.

I guess I never understood people worrying about the purity of others gaming. I haven't done a lot of this stuff not because I think people shouldn't I just have to much else going on to bother with it. But everyone else should have a great time doing what makes them happy.

For sure if the concern was the online network being flooded my "non" racing rooms..then I can see their concern. The network was flooded recently with $$$ rooms. I will admit I checked it out..but I couldn't do it well enough for it to be "beneficial".

 

[Devedander]

I'm sorry but this is a pretty lame justification. Just say you wanted money and more cars and so be it.

If I just say I wanted less grind can that be a so be it also?

I have 250 cars in this game so far, and I have a car that can win in ANY race situation I could end up in (my driving sometimes on the other hand can't win), you do not need to own every car in this game to be able to have cars fast enough to win or have good competitive races.

If it was just about having the fastest car for any given situation about 950 of the cars in the game would be pointless...

If that's all you want out of the game, then that's fine, but plenty of people on both side of the "cheater" fence will tell you that that far from covers everyone.

Stop trying to justify yourself and just admit the truth you just wanted more cash and cars. Nobody's gonna hate you for it, and you're not going to hell or jail.

How bout you stop trying to tell everyone that your blanket theory absolutely covers everyone and admit that you just want to feel better about yourself by convincing yourself others have done something wrong?

 

[olCOWBOYSlo]

Wether you all realize this or not i think this "expliot" was shipped with the game when it game out, you can disagree all you want because i dont care, but notice how there arent any SS7 Races in A-SPEC or B-SPEC, nor the specials....so i think a Developer at PD did this so he could lvl up faster and get more money, because dont you think its strange that it just "now" was found out and was just now patched?

 

[Tommy_861]

If I just say I wanted less grind can that be a so be it also?



If it was just about having the fastest car for any given situation about 950 of the cars in the game would be pointless...

If that's all you want out of the game, then that's fine, but plenty of people on both side of the "cheater" fence will tell you that that far from covers everyone.



How bout you stop trying to tell everyone that your blanket theory absolutely covers everyone and admit that you just want to feel better about yourself by convincing yourself others have done something wrong?

Did you even read the post I replied to. He wrote a story about how now established GT players have the cars they "need" thanks to this glitch.

You don't NEED all the cars in the game you WANT them. It has nothing to do with me and everything to do with other peoples need to post their righteousness in using the glitch.

Just say you did it and go with it. Who cares. I never said they did anything wrong, but he felt the need to explain it off as right.

 

[phlyerphanatic]

Wether you all realize this or not i think this "expliot" was shipped with the game when it game out, you can disagree all you want because i dont care, but notice how there arent any SS7 Races in A-SPEC or B-SPEC, nor the specials....so i think a Developer at PD did this so he could lvl up faster and get more money, because dont you think its strange that it just "now" was found out and was just now patched?

Kinda what I was driving at. By opening the door and leaving it ajar for EVERYONE to exploit...it was put there for EVERYONE to exploit for a certain amount of time. Whether that time frame was until it was found...or until it was watered down to the point of crashing the network...only the person who put the glitch in knows best. I firmly believe this isn't a glitch at all...but part of the programming. The fact that it grew to viral proportion so fast was the only thing PD couldn't predict.

 

[olCOWBOYSlo]

They're cheating themselves. It's up to one's own personal opinion on whether they want the reward of knowing they earned every car/credit properly, in the way the game intended.

Of course, human nature dictates that people are inheritantly selfish. People want to get something for free, or feel that they have acquired something that others have not. This world revolves around wealth; not only for bragging rights, but for self-satisfaction. And that translates into everything we do, including video games.[/QUOT
Unfortunately this is Life and in Life nt everyone is gonna play by the rules...."They're cheating themselves".....you say this yet no one who does the exploit really cares if they are doing so or not, This is a Racing Sim, If one choses to get as much money as quick as possible without the possibility of messing up their System, did you ever once stop to think that might be one of the reasons that someone would use the exploit? because Grinding does have a negative effect on your System, but no you never once stopped to think about that, you were too caught up in your Self Righteous ways, Yes it may not seem fair to you cause they are making money faster than you could Grinding, but that just sounds like a personal problem to me, because how people chose to play the game is solely up to them, as the only person it effects is them, stop being a crybaby and grow up, this is reality, and in the real world, nothing is just, nothing is fair, the weak parish and the strong survive, Learn to live with it, because nothing will change

 

[J-KiLLA24]

Quote "HOWEVER more importantly I'm just happy to be able to get a room list of actual races in open lobby as opposed to 60 rooms titled "MONEY GLITCH $$$$$"

This:tup:

 

[rampageturke]

Wether you all realize this or not i think this "expliot" was shipped with the game when it game out, you can disagree all you want because i dont care, but notice how there arent any SS7 Races in A-SPEC or B-SPEC, nor the specials....so i think a Developer at PD did this so he could lvl up faster and get more money, because dont you think its strange that it just "now" was found out and was just now patched?

No, stop your silly conspiracies.

 

[olCOWBOYSlo]

No, stop your silly conspiracies.

Ok because they Obviously just happened to not use a Track in any of the races and this "glitch" was just mysteriously found after the 1.07 Update, makes perfect sense to me

 

[FRR35H]

Confession: I used the Glitch a few times with a mate.
I'm happy now that they have fixed it because I lost myself to why I bought the game in the first place. Now there is no temptation to cheat and get ahead of myself, because just like breaking a diet habit, you're only cheating yourself!

 

[Negrumir]

Ok because they Obviously just happened to not use a Track in any of the races and this "glitch" was just mysteriously found after the 1.07 Update, makes perfect sense to me

I could see how one developer might have snuck that in...
But it's far more obvious (hence the patch) that PD doesn't want us doing that.

Also, the reason they didn't use the track in any races was probably because it's really friggin' boring for how long it is. There are other tracks that weren't used in A or B spec. Rally tracks, Cape Ring South, and a bunch of Reverse variants.

 

[Destinkeys]

I am going to bookmark this thread, then, in six months time, when I hear the constant whine of 'we need DLC cars, I've got nothing left to do' I can come back here and confirm that the same people using this exploit are now the same people moaning there's nothing left to get...

Wake up, guys. It took PD six YEARS to get this game out. Maybe it won't take as long next time, but it is likely to be two to three years at best. How many of you ALREADY have every car? And the game's been out three months or so.

You are robbing YOURSELF, not anyone else.

 

[TRC GeorgiaDawg]

I am going to bookmark this thread, then, in six months time, when I hear the constant whine of 'we need DLC cars, I've got nothing left to do' I can come back here and confirm that the same people using this exploit are now the same people moaning there's nothing left to get...

Wake up, guys. It took PD six YEARS to get this game out. Maybe it won't take as long next time, but it is likely to be two to three years at best. How many of you ALREADY have every car? And the game's been out three months or so.

You are robbing YOURSELF, not anyone else.

To be clear, I have not done this glitch, have not duped anything at all, and barely even play the game anymore and probably won't unless PD finally delivers on real full game leaderboard features. I've got hardly any credits, and have grinded for what cars I do have.

But I'd say they're not robbing themselves. Most of the people doing the glitching probably have no concern for money. They just want to race the cars they want to race. Period. Customers should never be held hostage to the arrogance of a developer who thinks they've developed something people will want to play long enough to pay for ridiculous in game content.

I say take the fake pseudo economy crap out of the game completely. Every car free, every upgrade free. Imagine if all the effort that has went into trying to protect the duping or this latest glitch got put into doing something completely out of the blue for a developer these days........working on making the game a better RACING game.

 

[White & Nerdy]

So you dupe and glitch and rob yourself, or you grind and grind and grind and grind and grind and...

Seems like the players lose either way.

 

[skubaben]

I am going to bookmark this thread, then, in six months time, when I hear the constant whine of 'we need DLC cars, I've got nothing left to do' I can come back here and confirm that the same people using this exploit are now the same people moaning there's nothing left to get...

Wake up, guys. It took PD six YEARS to get this game out. Maybe it won't take as long next time, but it is likely to be two to three years at best. How many of you ALREADY have every car? And the game's been out three months or so.

You are robbing YOURSELF, not anyone else.

Couldent agree more. Am collecting my ass of. and have playd evry day since release date almoste. And i have 260 cars At first i culdent get how ppl have gotten all the cars already. But now i see how..

 

[skubaben]

So you dupe and glitch and rob yourself, or you grind and grind and grind and grind and grind and...

Seems like the players lose either way.

Atleast with grinding u get to drive

 

[TRC GeorgiaDawg]

Atleast with grinding u get to drive

So do the dupers and money glitchers, except they're driving what they want to drive instead of what they can "afford".

 

[White & Nerdy]

Atleast with grinding u get to drive

Yeah, but driving around Indy 2,000 something times (more if you want to collect all the colors of X2010 or Bugatti Veyron or FGT or whatever) isn't my idea of fun. There's a fatal flaw in the game structure which means you can't win either way.

 

[olCOWBOYSlo]

To be clear, I have not done this glitch, have not duped anything at all, and barely even play the game anymore and probably won't unless PD finally delivers on real full game leaderboard features. I've got hardly any credits, and have grinded for what cars I do have.

But I'd say they're not robbing themselves. Most of the people doing the glitching probably have no concern for money. They just want to race the cars they want to race. Period. Customers should never be held hostage to the arrogance of a developer who thinks they've developed something people will want to play long enough to pay for ridiculous in game content.

I say take the fake pseudo economy crap out of the game completely. Every car free, every upgrade free. Imagine if all the effort that has went into trying to protect the duping or this latest glitch got put into doing something completely out of the blue for a developer these days........working on making the game a better RACING game.

👍👍👍👍 i say good post Sir exactly the same way i feel...and for those in america this will probably make sense
PD holding the gamers hostages makes them Terrorists, and as both Bush and Obama have said, "As American Citizens, We dont negotiate
with Terrorists."

 

[Exorcet]

You are robbing YOURSELF, not anyone else.

I wish you really thought that way so you wouldn't try to stop us. Either way, my post history is recorded on GTP. Feel free to look for evidence of duping harming me. I had about 800 posts when GT5 rolled around, so no need to go to zero. Just for clarification, don't forget that I've been asking for certain features even before GT5's release and some still don't exist, so you can't count those against me.


I've outlived quite a few people's predictions. The game isn't about car collecting, so I've got nothing to lose. Racing is where the fun is and as long as online works, GT5 will be relevant. The only regrets I have towards duping is getting lazy and not doing it every so often. My garage could have been a little bit bigger, and online a little more fun.

 

[TheProfessional]

Woo! Patch still isn't up in the US.. doing donuts with one hand as I type this with the other.

 

[slackboy72]

I am going to bookmark this thread, then, in six months time, when I hear the constant whine of 'we need DLC cars, I've got nothing left to do' I can come back here and confirm that the same people using this exploit are now the same people moaning there's nothing left to get...

Wake up, guys. It took PD six YEARS to get this game out. Maybe it won't take as long next time, but it is likely to be two to three years at best. How many of you ALREADY have every car? And the game's been out three months or so.

You are robbing YOURSELF, not anyone else.

Your trolling will never rob me of the $25m and two levels I went up last night by doing donuts.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Do you think PD is ever gonna add that feature
Would make gt5 much more fun _-_