Wednesdays Historic BSCC 3 20:30-21:30 BST- Pimiki & SimbaLora CHAMPIONS!!!Finished
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Amendments to Results - Points Standings
Note results from 4th to 9th have been amended as a result of the collision while lapping John Wells by Crazy John - Tarnheld has been restored to 4th from 9th position. Drivers who finished in positions 5 to 8 have been dropped by 1 position. This collision was an unfortunate accident. Lapped cars please try to follow a steady line allowing plenty of space for the faster cars to pass. One of the challenges (and potential extra areas of excitement) of our series, is the ability of the faster drivers to cope with lapping slower traffic.
Driving Standards
I am writing to remind everyone about the need to maintain high standards of driving. At the moment some people are being too impatient and are trying to force through passes in areas of the track where passes are not normally safe. Please remember that you cannot win the race at the first corner or in the first lap, but you can easily ruin your own race and / or the race of those around you during the opening laps by being impatient. The cars in this game move about more (sometimes through slight lag) than they do on a real track so it is extra important to consider where on the track safe passes can be made. Where the racing line flows quickly from one side of the track to the other due to a series of corners (such as in much of Deep Forest), it is not safe to attempt a pass. We will be using Suzuka in the next round - avoid attempting to pass in the narrow S bend sections which are shared with the Suzuka East track and look instead for passing opportunities to arise on the wider, more spread out sections of the course.
During the opening couple of laps, while the pack is tightly bunched, brake earlier than normal and be ready to take a different line to avoid collisions. My car (and other peoples cars) has been hit too often during the opening couple of laps. These hits can normally be avoided by concentrating hard and being ready to change line and also by being patient and waiting for passing opportunities to arise. If you do find yourself knocked to the back of the pack, remember accidents do happen, we are enthusiasts not professional drivers, don't "rage quit" - regroup, concentrate on producing your best, most consistent lap times and secure the best finish that you can - hopefully then you will enjoy the race and the championship - remember you have 25 minutes of racing and plenty of rounds in which to produce good results.
Next Round 4 from Suzuka Wednesday 20th July 2016
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- tarnheld
Thanks a lot, i would've been ok for me to stay in 9th as accidents can happen, especially when lapping or getting lapped. It's the way of life.
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- Whitehaven Cumbria Englan
- johnwells69
Anyone got any tips, how to drive the Renault
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- HeyZeus666
The way I have mine setup it's crucial to brake with some gas as well to keep it going straight, once you have it turned in to the corner it's all about balancing the chassis with the throttle until apex, then I use the throttle to steer the car where I want it to go - little less throttle makes the car turn in, more throttle can push it wide, (I'm talking quite fine margins here, like throttle position differences of 10-20%).
I listen to the squeal of the tires, little bit is good, when it gets louder your loosing more traction until it starts to skid. Learn to listen for that threshold as another cue that your on the limit.
Pick out and memorize braking markers, hit them every time, then when your consistent try braking a little later to see if you can still make it through the corner, if you can, then that's your new braking marker.
I have been tuning the gordini specifically for each track because a general tune is only generally fast, since the gordini can be a handful to drive consistently it's worth it to retune it for each track.
I'll pm you some of my tuning secrets, but since the series is not even halfway done I'd like keep my tune a secret just in case I have discovered some sort of advantage
If like to hear some more driving/racing tips if anyone else feels like sharing
I listen to the squeal of the tires, little bit is good, when it gets louder your loosing more traction until it starts to skid. Learn to listen for that threshold as another cue that your on the limit.
Pick out and memorize braking markers, hit them every time, then when your consistent try braking a little later to see if you can still make it through the corner, if you can, then that's your new braking marker.
I have been tuning the gordini specifically for each track because a general tune is only generally fast, since the gordini can be a handful to drive consistently it's worth it to retune it for each track.
I'll pm you some of my tuning secrets, but since the series is not even halfway done I'd like keep my tune a secret just in case I have discovered some sort of advantage
If like to hear some more driving/racing tips if anyone else feels like sharing
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- Whitehaven Cumbria Englan
- johnwells69
Thanks very much Hey:tup:👍👍
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Race Notes
Amazing performance by Zeus in the Renault 8 Gordini. Many apologies to Flaco for the collision - when you got back on track I had Tarnheld right on my tail and just couldn't avoid your car when it started going to the right of the track where I was already committed. Great driving by @tarnheld to claim a podium behind Pimiki and the winner Zeus / @pret
@John Wells - I don't know if you have tried the suggested tune for the Renault on this thread, but it works quite well. If using with matched tyres front and rear, it is quite lively, so you will need to be careful with the transition between braking and accelerating and may sometimes need to use both pedals at once.
Next Round 5 from Matterhorn Dristelen
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Thanks Sick:tup:
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- HeyZeus666
I'm not going to be at next weeks race, I'll be on vacation.
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- Flaco__13
My apologies, Sick, I should have stayed left and let you and tarnheld pass me safely from the right. Wrong decision by me to try and get out of the way by steering to the right.
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- Sick_Cylinder
Car Show 24th July
A few of my favourite shots from a car show I attended on Sunday.
Don't forget Round 5 from Matterhorn Dristelen later today!
A few of my favourite shots from a car show I attended on Sunday.
Don't forget Round 5 from Matterhorn Dristelen later today!
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- Whitehaven Cumbria Englan
- johnwells69
Here some photos
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- johnwells69
Sorry about the crash, towards the end of race. I move on to the grass, to people by and hit the wall. This sent me into the path of the on coming vehicles, causing a big pile up
I think the replay needs to be watched.
I think the replay needs to be watched.
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- gu1tar3rich
hi guys , had a great time at the horn ... Got a bad start but managed to catch up and stay on pace for most of it , was catching up too but tyres went off and caught me out ... This let @Sick Cylinder catch me up and the pressure was getting to much so i made a mistake and sick passed me , had to work hard to work my way back and with @tarnheld closing in i had to dig deep.. caught sick up couple laps before finish ,pushing into the last lap right on sick's tail then he made a mistake i sliped passed sprinting to the finish i was then gifted with 3rd place by @Pimasz as he span last corner ..
@John Wells , unlucky going on the grass , was a great pile up tho ...try start button if it happens again bud...👍
Some pics :
sprinting to the finish i was then gifted with 3rd place by @Pimasz as he span last corner ..@John Wells , unlucky going on the grass , was a great pile up tho ...try start button if it happens again bud...👍
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Unfortunately a couple of incidents occurred during the last lap which marred an otherwise excellent race. The track is narrow so John Wells moved onto the grass to allow the leaders (SimbaLora, Pimiki and Flaco) through. John lost control of the car inadvertently passing back across the track resulting in a multiple collision. I have therefore decided to revise the finishing order to the positions which would have applied if the accident had not taken place i.e.
1st SimbaLora, 2nd Pimiki, 3rd Flaco, 4th Rich, 5th Sick, 6th Tarnheld, 7th Sutsagrd, 8th John Wells.
Next Round 6 from Maiwald (Custom Track by Eran)
Please note Round 6 is a custom track and experience has shown that the PS3 / PSN struggles to load custom tracks if there are any changes made for a second race - therefore there will not be a qualification race during Round 6 and Round 7. The revised schedule will therefore be as follows:
20:25 Room Opens for Practise
20:55 Feature Race starts
Note for Round 8 to 12 we return to the normal schedule as these are not custom tracks.
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A few shots from Sunday of cars that seemed more relevant to this thread. Another Sunday and another car show - this time on a beautiful English village green.
The Austin A40 which was styled by Pininfarina and won the British Saloon Car Championship in 1960. The Jaguar Mark 2 3.8 saloon which won the European Touring Car Championship in its inaugural year 1963 and dominated British racing for a long period until the arrival of the big Fords.
A long row of classic Minis and a Delorean - both of which I hope get the super premium treatment in a future GT game. Finally something very rare - a 1955 Armstrong Siddeley "Baby" Sapphire 236 (2.3 litre straight six) with "Manumatic" transmission.
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- IfAndOr
The lack of Sunday racing has in some ways been benificial, it's certainly increased your car show visits!
Is that a Fiat X19 hiding away on the Vauxhall Cresta photo? I nearly bought one of those. I should imagine those are quite rare since most will have rotted away by now. It's a wonder that's not in GT.
A Ford Escort?
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The lack of Sunday racing has in some ways been benificial, it's certainly increased your car show visits!
Is that a Fiat X19 hiding away on the Vauxhall Cresta photo? I nearly bought one of those. I should imagine those are quite rare since most will have rotted away by now. It's a wonder that's not in GT.
A Ford Escort?
Well spotted - yes in the photo we also have a Fiat X1-9, Triumph Herald, Austin 10 and a Reliant Scimitar. There were a few Escorts, but I didn't get any close up photos. I concentrated on rare British and European cars rather than late models or American cars. Here's a few more rare cars - I hope @Flaco13 likes the Glas BMW's - they are very rare in the UK.
Above the Glas 2600 featured a 2.6 V8 based on the design of 4 cylinder Glas units. The company ran into financial difficulties and was taken over by BMW. The handsome body was styled by Pietro Frua.
Below a Daimler 250 V8 (more luxurious version) of the Jaguar Mk2 saloon. Jaguar had taken over Daimler which gave them access to the Daimler V8 engines designed by Edward Turner. The car below is the very desirable manual transmission version with overdrive. The engine displaces 2.5 litres and features overhead inclined valves operating in hemispherical combustion chambers. There was also a 4.5 litre version used in the Daimler Majestic Major.
Jaguar might have avoided their later financial troubles and takeover by British Leyland if they had scrapped plans for a V12 and concentrated instead on a 5 litre version of the Edward Turner V8 - in tests the performance was outstanding.
Triumph insisted on producing their own V8 engine even though within the British Leyland group they already had the excellent Daimler V8's and the lightweight Rover 3.5 litre. Unsurprisingly the Triumph 3 litre V8 used in the Stag was not a commercial success - it did sound great however! Probably one of the best sounding engines of all time!
Below very rare in the UK - Lancia 2000 HF - most rusted and were scrapped. The owner told me that 10 are left.
Below the Gilbern Invader - a great Grand Touring car manufactured in Wales. The interior was a stunning and luxurious mix of walnut and leather, but unfortunately my interior shot did not come out.
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The last few photos of last Sunday's classic car show
Above, not something you see everyday - a Bristol saloon parked next to a Nash Metropolitan. Below plenty of Morris Minor's at the show including the wood framed Traveller models and desirable soft top cabriolets, vans and pickup variants.
Don't forget - Round 6 tonight from Maiwald (Custom Track by master track maker Eran). Note there will not be a qualifying race - just an extended practise session followed by the feature race - this is because the PS3 /PSN is unable to cope with reloading a custom track if there is a change in race duration.
Above, not something you see everyday - a Bristol saloon parked next to a Nash Metropolitan. Below plenty of Morris Minor's at the show including the wood framed Traveller models and desirable soft top cabriolets, vans and pickup variants.
Don't forget - Round 6 tonight from Maiwald (Custom Track by master track maker Eran). Note there will not be a qualifying race - just an extended practise session followed by the feature race - this is because the PS3 /PSN is unable to cope with reloading a custom track if there is a change in race duration.
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Great race, great track today! 👍 Sorry again Sick for the crash, couldn't avoid bouncing back on track.
No problem Tarnheld. I felt that I left my best laps on the track during practise and struggled to get a rythmn until the later laps. Very impressive pace and driving from the podium men - SimbaLora, Pimiki and Harsk.
Chris Amon RIP
Sadly I have just heard that the 1966 Le Mans winner and former F1 driver Chris Amon has passed away - I take this opportunity to pay my respects to a Motorsport Legend.
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- sutsagrd
Maiwald is still one of the best tracks I've raced on.
My best lap was 2.51 so no where near the fast guys but I suddenly sensed I might get a result above 8th!!
So I got an amazing start off the line and found 2 minis in front who I thought I could overtake safely. Hence my red mist madness moment in the first corner.
I forgot I was in the Renault and of course as soon as I braked for the corner with 2 wheels on the grass...all control was lost and poor @Flaco13 was the victim.
Sincere apologies Flaco. I really didn't intend to take you out and spoil your race. Apologies to anyone else I managed to involve in my first corner stupidity as well.
Still had a great time racing this track.
Should be interesting in the Boss!
My best lap was 2.51 so no where near the fast guys but I suddenly sensed I might get a result above 8th!!
So I got an amazing start off the line and found 2 minis in front who I thought I could overtake safely. Hence my red mist madness moment in the first corner.
I forgot I was in the Renault and of course as soon as I braked for the corner with 2 wheels on the grass...all control was lost and poor @Flaco13 was the victim. Sincere apologies Flaco.
I really didn't intend to take you out and spoil your race. Apologies to anyone else I managed to involve in my first corner stupidity as well. Still had a great time racing this track.
Should be interesting in the Boss!
