Week 13: Correcting An Error
- Thread starter Kent
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holl01
(Banned)
- 1,539
- GTP_D.Holland
ok, made some improvements
T1 29.268
T2 1'04.909
and i finished really well to, i was suprised that i got this time to be honest after only spending a toatal of 2 hours total so far. cos i'm a nice person, here is a complete lap description of how i did it
brake early for first corner, stay in third briefly but hit fourth half a sec later on the exit, to get maximum drive out of corner.
for the right b4 T1, take it in fourth
now, i have no idea how to take this hilly section optimally, but i stay in fourth (the car is maxing out as u go over the hill) and hit fifth as you turn into the inside apex on exit
drift out wide an start turning in, hit sixth before u reach the fast left.
for the hairpin, brake just before the dip in the road, down to second, and then hit third quickly upon exiting, now stay in third as u stick to the apex on the left, tap the brakes and stay in third briefly, but hit fourth soon after b4 u exit the left which leads to T2. the next left is a 'feel corner' as its hard to get the braking right, and its hard to jude when to get on the gas upon exit, but stay in third
for the next right stay in third and accelerate as u hit the inside apex
now, the last **** of a corner is the make or break corner, either u nail it, or u crash out or complete it painfully slow and out of shape
move out as far to the left by hopping the inside curb on the left and turn in, tap the brakes as u pass over the little elevated apex, (putting two wheels on the grass to get a good line into the next left) and then take the next left at half throttle to position the car (or stabalise it) and accelerate out (staying in fifth all the way) hit sixth b4 the fence starts, and ur home and hose. yep, thats it, i know its probably a poor description, but its something at least, catchya later guys, and i hope i was of use
T1 29.268
T2 1'04.909
and i finished really well to, i was suprised that i got this time to be honest after only spending a toatal of 2 hours total so far. cos i'm a nice person, here is a complete lap description of how i did it
brake early for first corner, stay in third briefly but hit fourth half a sec later on the exit, to get maximum drive out of corner.
for the right b4 T1, take it in fourth
now, i have no idea how to take this hilly section optimally, but i stay in fourth (the car is maxing out as u go over the hill) and hit fifth as you turn into the inside apex on exit
drift out wide an start turning in, hit sixth before u reach the fast left.
for the hairpin, brake just before the dip in the road, down to second, and then hit third quickly upon exiting, now stay in third as u stick to the apex on the left, tap the brakes and stay in third briefly, but hit fourth soon after b4 u exit the left which leads to T2. the next left is a 'feel corner' as its hard to get the braking right, and its hard to jude when to get on the gas upon exit, but stay in third
for the next right stay in third and accelerate as u hit the inside apex
now, the last **** of a corner is the make or break corner, either u nail it, or u crash out or complete it painfully slow and out of shape
move out as far to the left by hopping the inside curb on the left and turn in, tap the brakes as u pass over the little elevated apex, (putting two wheels on the grass to get a good line into the next left) and then take the next left at half throttle to position the car (or stabalise it) and accelerate out (staying in fifth all the way) hit sixth b4 the fence starts, and ur home and hose. yep, thats it, i know its probably a poor description, but its something at least, catchya later guys, and i hope i was of use
- 3,105
- GTP_MisterWeary
After a few more laps I've lowered my splits
T1: 0'29.974
T2: 1'06.859
@holl01: That 'feel corner' you mentioned...I found a way around that seems to be effective don't know if it'll be of use to you at all, but I start braking just after the T2 split and as the car turns in I tap the hand brake and get on the gas straight away.
I found the handbrake quite useful for a few corners actually, the R390's turn in isn't as spectacular as I'd like but a hit of handbrake seems to solve that 👍
T1: 0'29.974
T2: 1'06.859
@holl01: That 'feel corner' you mentioned...I found a way around that seems to be effective don't know if it'll be of use to you at all, but I start braking just after the T2 split and as the car turns in I tap the hand brake and get on the gas straight away.
I found the handbrake quite useful for a few corners actually, the R390's turn in isn't as spectacular as I'd like but a hit of handbrake seems to solve that 👍
Pink_the_Floyd
(Banned)
- 4,041
R390GT1 Road Car:
T1: 30.699
T2: 1'09.851
Supra RZ '97
T1: 31.236
T2: 1'12.347
T1: 30.699
T2: 1'09.851
Supra RZ '97
T1: 31.236
T2: 1'12.347
holl01
(Banned)
- 1,539
- GTP_D.Holland
made another massive improvement using a totally different driving technique, and it really helped my lap time significantly, i made a .3 sec improvement
T1 29.180
T2 1'04.770
ok, heres the secret that helped me alot:
dont shift gears at the red zone, shift well b4 that, particularly on the last sweeping left corner- u should hit sixth as u veer into the apex, thats a massive tip, also, do the hilly section in 5th, and the hairpin in third helped alot also. It seems that u get superior exit speed when u shift gears sooner rather than later, well on this car anyway. i hope my tips are of benifit
thats it
cya later
from daniel holland.
T1 29.180
T2 1'04.770
ok, heres the secret that helped me alot:
dont shift gears at the red zone, shift well b4 that, particularly on the last sweeping left corner- u should hit sixth as u veer into the apex, thats a massive tip, also, do the hilly section in 5th, and the hairpin in third helped alot also. It seems that u get superior exit speed when u shift gears sooner rather than later, well on this car anyway. i hope my tips are of benifit
thats it
cya later
from daniel holland.
- 3,105
- GTP_MisterWeary
Farout!!!
That's some insane splits holl01, I just ordered a max drive on the net so I look forward to viewing some replays to see how GT is REALLY played
Shouldn't you be watching the Origin though holl01?
That's some insane splits holl01, I just ordered a max drive on the net so I look forward to viewing some replays to see how GT is REALLY played
Shouldn't you be watching the Origin though holl01?
holl01
(Banned)
- 1,539
- GTP_D.Holland
MisterWearyFarout!!!
That's some insane splits holl01, I just ordered a max drive on the net so I look forward to viewing some replays to see how GT is REALLY played
Shouldn't you be watching the Origin though holl01?
thanx, i'm sure u'll have fun with ur maxdrive 👍
- 3,105
- GTP_MisterWeary
I'm guessing you use a maxdrive for uploading your files holl01?
Pink_the_Floyd
(Banned)
- 4,041
New splits:
T1: 30.233
T2: 1'07.411
R390 Road Car, DS2 that is
T1: 30.233
T2: 1'07.411
R390 Road Car, DS2 that is
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Just my 2 cents on wheels and so on. You will see that a guy like holl01 uses the DS2 more than his wheel, and look at his killer times ! I'd say one should not think that a wheel will make you faster ( it might, but you will be able to match your times usually with the DS2 as well ), it just makes the whole "virtual driving" experience much more fun !
@VTEC, congrats dude, glad you finally got it ! Stick with it, I bet you it took most of us with wheels here a few hours, if not days to get up to the times we did with our DS2's, at 1st it feels so weird, cause really these PS2 wheels don't feel ANYTHING like a real cars steering wheel haha. In my A3 I don't feel all the bumps I feel with the DFP haha.
I also read somewhere that there's a worldwide shortage of DFP's ! Amazing ...
@VTEC, congrats dude, glad you finally got it ! Stick with it, I bet you it took most of us with wheels here a few hours, if not days to get up to the times we did with our DS2's, at 1st it feels so weird, cause really these PS2 wheels don't feel ANYTHING like a real cars steering wheel haha. In my A3 I don't feel all the bumps I feel with the DFP haha.
I also read somewhere that there's a worldwide shortage of DFP's ! Amazing ...
Pink_the_Floyd
(Banned)
- 4,041
vtec_guy
Weren't you getting a DFP?
I was considering it until my friend (GTFAN2005) got one of these joytech williams wheels and he said it felt exactly the same as a dfp. It has paddle shifters and a stick shifter just like on the dfp but it also has a couple of cool little extras. First of all, you can take off the wheel just like you can in a real f1 car and it has a small screen on it with a stop watch which is pretty cool. It also has a LED display that shows you how much you're accelerating.
Here's a few pics:
It looks really plasticy in that pic but it isnt in rl.
sorry to go off topic
Here's a few pics:
It looks really plasticy in that pic but it isnt in rl.
sorry to go off topic
- 3,279
- UK
- GTP_VEXD
Was it expensive?, cos it loox like it wasnt.
The difference in laptimes and wheel and pad users is this:
With a pad, you tend to drive the roof cam, or chase cam to get the best view/interpretation and idea of where your car is cornering, and hit the apexes everytime.
With a wheel, you cant judge the cars reaction from chase view, roof cam worx to some degree (900? hehehe) but in all fairness, the only way to drive DFP or similar is through the in-car view, or near-bumper-cam.
This view, allows you to see apexes, learn positioning correctly, and feel the car's responses quickly enough to correct them if need be, like if you're gonna spin or something, you can grab it.
However, you cant always judge width accurately, corner speed is deceptive and as a result, you drive at a slower speed round turns to ensure accuracy on the track.
Whenever you replay a run and change to overhead chase cam, you can see how you could have been so much more reckless round turns, if only you'd felt able to be when you were driving from "inside" the car.
This is IMO the difference between pad and DFP, and results in slower times as a norm, and is down to driving view.
NSX Type R concept. :
cushty noises. 👍
The difference in laptimes and wheel and pad users is this:
With a pad, you tend to drive the roof cam, or chase cam to get the best view/interpretation and idea of where your car is cornering, and hit the apexes everytime.
With a wheel, you cant judge the cars reaction from chase view, roof cam worx to some degree (900? hehehe) but in all fairness, the only way to drive DFP or similar is through the in-car view, or near-bumper-cam.
This view, allows you to see apexes, learn positioning correctly, and feel the car's responses quickly enough to correct them if need be, like if you're gonna spin or something, you can grab it.
However, you cant always judge width accurately, corner speed is deceptive and as a result, you drive at a slower speed round turns to ensure accuracy on the track.
Whenever you replay a run and change to overhead chase cam, you can see how you could have been so much more reckless round turns, if only you'd felt able to be when you were driving from "inside" the car.
This is IMO the difference between pad and DFP, and results in slower times as a norm, and is down to driving view.
NSX Type R concept. :
cushty noises. 👍
- 3,105
- GTP_MisterWeary
Couldn't imagine controlling an FR/MR/RR without seeing it on the road, it's all chase cam for me!
New Splits:
CONTROLLER: DS2"
CAR: Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car
T1: 0'30.099
T2: 1'06.647
New Splits:
CONTROLLER: DS2"
CAR: Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car
T1: 0'30.099
T2: 1'06.647
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to find which car to use you could just use this : https://www.gtplanet.net/gt4/car_li...&pwr_wgt1=&pwr_wgt2=&value1=&value2=&x=27&y=8
- 8,191
- Southern Louisiana
- GTP_Kent
To those of you who have already started to submit times... (1 of you that is) 
When I said to keep working at it, surely you could improve your time, I was not saying your time was bad.
I was just saying that if you can do ____ in one day of racing, surely there is a chance you will continue to improve over the next 5 days (assuming you keep at it). 👍
So good luck and remember not to worry about your time being too fast or too slow.
Also, I just want to make sure everyone understands...
400hp max
1250kg min
1249kg not allowed
401hp not allowed
Also, don't forget about the replay screen bumping the hp up 1... that doesn't matter... Use the quick tune screen's hp reading.
However, remember to make sure you are using "HP" and not "BHP" "PS" "KW" etc etc...
Good luck everyone and have fun.
When I said to keep working at it, surely you could improve your time, I was not saying your time was bad.
I was just saying that if you can do ____ in one day of racing, surely there is a chance you will continue to improve over the next 5 days (assuming you keep at it). 👍
So good luck and remember not to worry about your time being too fast or too slow.
Also, I just want to make sure everyone understands...
400hp max
1250kg min
1249kg not allowed
401hp not allowed
Also, don't forget about the replay screen bumping the hp up 1... that doesn't matter... Use the quick tune screen's hp reading.
However, remember to make sure you are using "HP" and not "BHP" "PS" "KW" etc etc...
Good luck everyone and have fun.
- 510
- GTP_Toffe
Here is my first try:
T1: 29.871
T2: 1'07.503
As you can see I have got the T time quite well, but I'm losing enormous amounts of time in T2. Really wierd I think, since it feels like I'm getting it quite good in that area. Obviously not...........
But hey, it's just wednesday!
Kent, good that you made that clear with the replays. Just noticed when I watched my replay for the first time that it stood: "401 hp" Good that that's not a problem. 👍
T1: 29.871
T2: 1'07.503
As you can see I have got the T time quite well, but I'm losing enormous amounts of time in T2. Really wierd I think, since it feels like I'm getting it quite good in that area. Obviously not...........
But hey, it's just wednesday! Kent, good that you made that clear with the replays. Just noticed when I watched my replay for the first time that it stood: "401 hp" Good that that's not a problem. 👍
Pink_the_Floyd
(Banned)
- 4,041
R390 GT1 Road Car, 400 HP, 1250 kg that is
New splits:
T1: 30.122
T2: 1'07.088
New splits:
T1: 30.122
T2: 1'07.088
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