Week 13: Correcting An Error

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i have done all i can do in this week, i had a T2 of 1'04.389 but failed to finish it, so i was quite dissapointed as u would b, i dont think i'll play it untill bext week, i enjoy the combo though, good choice (i also had a T1 of 28.987 once) but this weeks best tip i can give EXIT SPEED is the key. use high gears for all the corners, as u dont want to change many gears on the straights.
 
Im stuck on the T1, i got T2 down and all but T1 is annoying i cant get the right exit speed or i just loose it.....and suggeestions :nervous:
 
Yeah my split times are all over the shop, I am doing what holl01 suggested though, as little gear changing as possible seems to be the way to go.
 
T1 - :30.081
T2 - 1:06.718

I can trim about another .3 or so realistically, but time will tell yet again!

jump_ace
 
Okay sorry to keep posting like this but I just thought I'd point out that on my replay just as it starts it says my R390 has 401HP, not 400....now I checked the next step up (15%) is 404 so jsut a heads up I am assuming that this is legal, perhaps the differenc ebetween hp adn bhp? Anyone?

jump_ace
 
MisterWeary
Yeah my split times are all over the shop, I am doing what holl01 suggested though, as little gear changing as possible seems to be the way to go.
im im dumb :dunce: i dont know what you mean :crazy: :dunce: translate that :)
 
jump_ace
Okay sorry to keep posting like this but I just thought I'd point out that on my replay just as it starts it says my R390 has 401HP, not 400....now I checked the next step up (15%) is 404 so jsut a heads up I am assuming that this is legal, perhaps the differenc ebetween hp adn bhp? Anyone?

jump_ace

From Kent's post-

Also, don't forget about the replay screen bumping the hp up 1... that doesn't matter... Use the quick tune screen's hp reading.

However, remember to make sure you are using "HP" and not "BHP" "PS" "KW" etc etc...

You are all right. :)
 
SHigSpeed
Drugs are bad, mkay?

Hey, regarding your :^P, based on your stratospheric time at Suzuka that was erased, and your admirable early split times, I've gotta think that you definitely are misclassed.

Since you're getting a replay device so you can verify your odds on Div 3 win this week, I'm sure we'll be seeing you in Div 2 if not Div 1 really soon! Right? :^)

Drive on...

-SHig

I'm on drugs actually :P With the R390, I improved my overall time over 5 seconds, 6 actually. My T2 time with the R390 is 3-4 seconds faster than my T2 time with the BMW M3 GTR/Lotus Esprit/...

My time at Suzuka was good for 1 reason: I did the All Japan GT before. I did it twice so Suzuka was kinda mastered :P (I wanted to unlock the Motul Pitwork Z)

I'm getting one, but I don't know if I'm gonna have it by next tuesday ... I live in a 500,000 ppl town called Quebec.. a big hole.

Div 1, you're pushing it, but I wanna make it to Div 2... but first, I want to win some events in Div 3, and.. maybe getting a steering wheel.
 
First session with the....can anyone guess....R390

T1 - 29.895
T2 - 1:05.974

Saw 29.5's in T1 and a 1:05.4 in T2 but couldn't keep it clean.
 
R390, Div3, DS2.

First session: T1: 31.1 T2: 1.06.3

@holl01: thanks- as always- for the input/insight to your approach and driving!Nice one mate!!
 
T1 - :29.950
T2 - 1:06.474

I really am now getting the feel for not only the track (since I didn't start until Week 7)
but the car as well, that damned hill is costimg me pretty big tho...I'm done for the nite mates. If anyone ever wants to talk cars feel free.

jump_ace
 
@R390GT1

I was supporting holl01's suggestion. You need to minimise gear changing, a good example is the series of corners before T1, you should take them all in...4th I think it is. It's tempting to drop back to third but it loses you time, there's heaps of points around the track where it's similar, take them at a gear higher than you think and see what effect it has.

As for me I'm pretending to do some work instead of racing but it's not working very well :)
 
Was pondering this the other day. For events like this, would no posting of CARS make the event "funner"? Yes sector times can be still discused, but the .. umm .. surprize at the end of what car people actually used.. just food for thought..
 
Yeah if there was no discussion of cars earlier I would have had to hunt for an appropriate vehicle and because of the discussion I just jumped straight into the R390 so I would agree, no car discussion would have been interesting.

I just beat my lap but I wasn't ahead at T1 or T2, not sure if i'm supposed to post my actual lap splits for Luxy's leaderboard or not, so here are my current splits:

(Driving R390 with DS2" in Div 2)
T1-0'30.274
T2-1'06.737
 
No R 390 GT1 here.....yet...just a mix of vehicles I'm trying out right now...I've driven a R34 Skyline, R32 Skyline, Lancer EVO VIII RS, Z06, and WRX STI... RGT is next ;) --- Randy
 
Competition is hot! New splits for me:

(Driving R390, using DS2" in Div 2)
T1: 0'30.181
T2: 1'06.303
 
r0gu3
In that case I'll have to use the picture of me in Schumacher's '01 F1 car when I open up the ability for an avatar. ;) (Or any of the other pics of me in Ferrari's, McLarens, and JGTC cars) :)

*starts sweating*
um..errr...um...um...eeer you're gay! :dunce:
 
ranhammerR34
No R 390 GT1 here.....yet...just a mix of vehicles I'm trying out right now...I've driven a R34 Skyline, R32 Skyline, Lancer EVO VIII RS, Z06, and WRX STI... RGT is next ;) --- Randy

Excuse me Mr R34, have you tried the R34 Skyline Pace Car? It's not a bad spin on this challenge actually.

Also, I can't believe I wasted 150,000 on a Mine's Evo, what a waste. It was a second slower then the Jaguar XKR....The jaguar which weights in at 1700kg!
 
yo, bet my time by about .06 or so

T1 29.174
T2 1'04.568 (i think)

and i broke a second barrier which i was aiming for, i will probably submit this time as i dont see myself beating it. but u never know

catchya later everyone
 
The First Ever​

"CASIO'S GUIDE to doing a track at speed"
(A slow speed, but a slow speed is still speed nonetheless)
----​

When crossing the starting line stay was wide as possible to the very left, without going on the white chalky stuff. I can not stress this point enough, WHITE CHALKY STUFF IS BAD FOR FAST TIMES! Once you've practised driving in a straight line, we can move onto the next task.

When you see the kink coming into view, start turning! You want to get as far that is allowed to the right! If that means having 2 wheels on the rumble strip, and 2 on the pointy green stuff, then do exactly that! If you wish to turn in later you have two options. Either you brake to make it round the corner, killing all speed you developed from staying off the white chalky stuff. OR . You take it flat out miss the apex and smash head on into the wall. I can not stress this point enough, HEAD ON COLLISIONS WITH WALLS IS BAD FOR FAST TIMES! Now that we've got past turn 1, we can move on to turn 2.

For turn 2, if you've taken turn 1 correctly, you should be some where near the middle of the road (Which is good 👍 ) Brake from there, don't bother moving over to the right, it's not worth the hassle, you'll only unstable the car. See the line on the left of the road, about 4ft out from the green stuff. Try to follow that some of the way around, until you get to the point where you can accelerate fully out of the corner, don't go to early, or you'll smash into the high green rocky stuff on the right. I can not stress this point enough! (YADA-YADA-YADA). Continue with the slight right that follows turn 2, and on to the next corner.

This corner can be taken flat out in exactly the same way as turn 1, except you want to try to avoid the white chalky stuff on the inside. (See 2 paragraphs up for detailed desciption of white chalky stuff) When exiting the slight right after turn two, you want to get over to the right, but not all the way, because it's to much effort, and again, will unbalence the car.

The next corner, is a painful series of corners which makes me convulse just thinking about it. :yuck: I brake from near the middle of the track for the first right, so you can take the uphill right - left series at full speed. Make sure you hit these two apexi, late, so you can take them at full speed. To early, you'll end up in the side of a mountain (RUNNING INTO MOUNTAINS IS NOT GOOD FOR FAST TIMES). Enter the tunnel, but be ready to come out straight into hell.... :nervous:

Look ahead, what do you see. Some of you will say, "Casio, I see the inside of a tunnel", if you are one of these people, this means you are facing the wrong way. Turn around, it'll help your times 👍 . For the people who say, "Casio, look, a big scary hill! Watch out for trolls and mountain goats!". I am here to save you. Stay as left as possible when going up the hill, and make sure you ARE GOING STRAIGHT WHEN YOU JUMP! and DO NOT DO ANYTHING WHILE IN AIR! Once you have landed, dab the brakes and turn right, and try to get over the the right rumble strip. Don't do anything insane when going down the hill, like hit the handbrake, open the sunroof, start to fill helium ballons. etc. Keep smooth and sane and common sence will provale.

Onto the big, long, hard :indiff: sweeping left hander. Try to keep on that white line about 4ft away from the wall. When you start seeing the end of the corner, tap the brake very slighty and you should make it though without smashing into the wall on the side.

Once though this corner, move to very left, and start braking when the road goes into a little dip, you'll know it when you do it. Turn slightly late, so you are read for the next corner, DO NOT TAKE THIS CORNER TO FAST!

The next two corner are treated as one, after the previous corner, where you come out on the middle of the road, turn in for the slight left, then brake slighty after. The correct speed should have you on the right of track, turn in early for the left! In much the same way as the first kink, cut as much off as is allowed!

Now a left kink, again turn-in early, and lift off slighty. A brake is overkill, and I doubt this corner can be taken flat without destorying the balence and ruining the line for the next corner. Too Fast = Solid Wall. Welcome to Casio's Math Class. :boggled:

Sorry, I havn't worked out the best line for the rest of the track, I'll study it and update tomorrow.

Until then.

CLASS DISMISSED​
 
*Note to self...RUNNING INTO MOUNTAINS IS NOT GOOD FOR FAST TIMES*

Excellent stuff Casio, gave me a right ol' laugh :)

Well, I'm tired of watching my ghost tear off into the distance, I'm done for the night. I have noticed a few little oddities after my plethora of laps.

Oddity #1: The first sweeping left can be taken multiple ways
I can exit that corner equally as fast by using Casio's method above or by braking late and tapping the hand brake to point back in or by giving the R390 a flick into drifts-ville for the first half of the corner or by riding the inside rumble strip all the way round? Usually I don't know how I'm gonna take it until I've negotiated the first kink.

Oddity #2: On the other side of some rumble strips is a grassy bank
If it was just flat grass I'd be tempted to cut the corner a little closer but I'm not sure if that's allowable? At what point does the "bank" become a "wall" A good example is the bank on the inside of the first sweeping left. If my car goes onto the grassy side of that corner while still having wheels on the track, is my lap voided? Until now I have assumed yes but if the answer is no then I won't be so disheartened the next time it happens and perhaps continue around the track in a happy state of mind :)

Oddity #3: El Capitan appears to be a glorified Trial Mountain
Am I the only one who gets deja vu on this track, it's probably just my flashbacks from License B6 from GT3 (Skyline and Trial Mountain) the tunnel followed by all those tricky twists?!?

Oddity #4: The starting point for a new lap is not far enough back
I find that I can gain a quarter of a car length if I come into a new lap off of an old one. The starting point for a new lap appears to not provide enough room to gain full momentum, maybe it's just me

Oddity #5: veilsidebr and holl01 are freaks!!!!!
T2 in under 1'05 is I-N-S-A-N-E, you guys scare me :) Doesn't mean I'm not in the "I want to be like Mike" camp though 👍

I'm really enjoying this weeks challenge, I hadn't driven the R390 in GT4 until now and I like it!
 
half decent description, but i will just add a few more precise tips to complete the description

cross the at 241 line and position the car to the left and take the fast right at full pace and move as far to the right as possible, start turning in when required and brake well b4 u reach the apex, down to third but dont accelerate in third, change to fourth and when ur car is correctly positioned, accelerate out

hit fifth b4 the apex on the right, and change to sixth b4 the fast left, move out to the left as much as u can, start turning in and brake, and down to 4th, accelerate asap and change to 5th b4 u reach the left which leads to T1

ok, this corner is tricky, but do not brake at all, thats the key, turn into the hill, trying to stay as far left as possible, then use half throttle, as u go over the hill (as u dont wat to get out of shape to much) and then start turning into the apex, making sure u keep the car stablised

hit 6th soon after and make ur way to the right a tad, so u can get a good line into the fast left, sometimes u can take it full throttle, sometimes all is required is a lift. make ur way down the hill and brake just b4 the did in the road, down to 2nd for the hairpin, then start turning in to the left apex in third and brake soon after to position the car for the next left, making sure to accelerate in fourth gear.

T2, and brake just b4 the 2nd sign, down to third for this corner, then make ur way to the left and brake, staying in fourth for the next right, making sure u get maximum exit speed, change to fifth b4 u reach the left apex, then hop over the next left apex and try to get a good line in, ur in fifth, and u probably tempted to tap the brakes as u go over the hilly apex on the right, but dont, u need to take this corner at full throttle to stabalise the car over the elevation

then u need to move over to the right a bit in order to get the optimum line into the last long sweeping right hander

i'm still in fifth as i start turning in, but i change to 6th soon after, even though the car is not red lining, u know u've done the corner well if u have a speed of km/h as u hit the fenceing on the right.

this has been written by holl01
 
holl01
yo, bet my time by about .06 or so

T1 29.174
T2 1'04.568 (i think)

and i broke a second barrier which i was aiming for, i will probably submit this time as i dont see myself beating it. but u never know

catchya later everyone

Nice, haha i could have been inside that barrier too if it wasn´t a shiwty soccer game yesterday. I was here playing and after the "warm up" i was doing some 1'04.5´s and once 1'04.4 and like, it was so loud outside there due to ppl making fun while watching the game that, i couldn´t even concentrate in the game. A very importante game in TV was passing, like final, and so many ppl round here were watching but not me, as i hate soccer. So i coulnd´t just play so loud were the "Gooooo gooooo goo make this goal!!" :crazy: :crazy: :nervous: :yuck:

Today no soccer game, and i will play again.
 
Thanks holl01!!!

Can you remember all the gears! Impressive.

The reason I left out gears was

A: I use auto, like the old grandma I am
and B: I'm not using the R390, which I assume you are?

I dont even think my car has 6 gears... :nervous:

(Also in the second last paragraph, you left out how many km/h you are ment to be travelling)
 
MisterWeary
@R390GT1

I was supporting holl01's suggestion. You need to minimise gear changing, a good example is the series of corners before T1, you should take them all in...4th I think it is. It's tempting to drop back to third but it loses you time, there's heaps of points around the track where it's similar, take them at a gear higher than you think and see what effect it has.

As for me I'm pretending to do some work instead of racing but it's not working very well :)
Im doing that on turn 1 but i have to much exit speed :lol: and i slam into the wall, but ill try to do that.....thanks 👍
 
Just wanted to mention a thought or two...

Keeping discussion of which car you are using would have only hurt people.

The majority of racers would have eventually gotten into a R390 GT1... It was inevitable.

With overall stats being so important and with the air of good times being a thing of the past, all I see in the future for racing like this is the fastest car choice being the only one.

Maybe I'm just too old school for this but I remember a time when races like this brought about mini-races (pun intended).

Races like this would often end up breaking into groups of smaller races.
A few of the racers would pick the obvious fast car, then a few other would pick cars they really wanted to drive for their own reasons.

Weeks like this in the past saw RGTs racing against Lotus 350s, all the while a pack of six or seven cooper minis would be bringing up the rear in close competition with one-another but way off the rgt pace.

Does this mean I have a problem with the R390? No.
However, it does mean that I am a sucker for sentimentalities. :(

(thought you all would like to see how varied the results used to get)...
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54233&highlight=week+100


Any way, on a final note...
:bowdown: :guilty: :(
I would like to wish my respects to all of the British racers today.
I am sorry for the tragedy.
My deepest respects and sympathy,
-Kent
 
mkay
I'm on drugs actually :P With the R390, I improved my overall time over 5 seconds, 6 actually. My T2 time with the R390 is 3-4 seconds faster than my T2 time with the BMW M3 GTR/Lotus Esprit/...

My time at Suzuka was good for 1 reason: I did the All Japan GT before. I did it twice so Suzuka was kinda mastered :P (I wanted to unlock the Motul Pitwork Z)

I'm getting one, but I don't know if I'm gonna have it by next tuesday ... I live in a 500,000 ppl town called Quebec.. a big hole.

Div 1, you're pushing it, but I wanna make it to Div 2... but first, I want to win some events in Div 3, and.. maybe getting a steering wheel.


Heh, he said "big hole"...

I highly recommend the wheel though. I love mine and can't do any really pseudo-competitive times without it (though it's obvious that some rock on the DS2 - probably due to the faster possible lock to lock steering). I have noticed that my brand new DS2 has a better analog response to the gas/brake buttons though.

On that note, I spent an hour on the wheel (have done only DS2 up to this point) last night and got:

T1 30.069
T2 1'06.329

Now back to your regularly scheduled mookie-stinks flingin'.

-Scott
 
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