Week 19: Mazda Again?

[TheWizard]

Thanks for the input, ballstothewall 👍
The picture helps and I figured that was what KLR142 was talking about.

In my last session I managed to obtain a T1 of 0'18.095 and another one of 0'18.111.
If earlier I could only do 18'5xx's consistantly and 18'3xx's only once in a while, now I can do 18'3xx's consistantly and 18'2xx's or below occasionally.

I figure by the end of the week I'll be able to hit those consistantly as well.

I improved on a couple of clean runs, best splits so far are:

T1: 0'18.391
T2: 0'35.385
T3: 0'53.582

The other lap had a 53'967 @ T3 - the above lap being almost 0.4 seconds faster. Unfortunately I blew the last corner and ended up improving the time only by 0.1

I feel there is still at least half a second to be gained - there's the whole weekend for that

Later.

The Wizard.

 

[fasj6418]

i still haven´t run with the viper... i´m going to test right now...

but i tested the other 3... and, as a good vette fan i was determined to make a good run with...

first splits with the Vette:

T1: 18´316
T2: 35´812
T3: 53´948

so, its not as bad as i thought, i can still take .6 before T3, so, at least the car can be competitive...

but lets see how the viper goes...

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

wonder how i lost .5 from t2-t3 in the Vette

i didnt really see a mistake, but o well

Viper is the only car to go with

 

[jumpputt]

First session this week. Might have to submit this though, as I'm going on vacation until Tuesday. (with my mother in law )

T1 18.337
T2 35.535
T3 54.411

Oh, this is with the Viper.

 

[Infest]

My T-times as of tonight....

T1 19.263
T2 37.768
T3 57.742

With the viper of course

 

[MinorShunt]

Had a good 2 hour session tonight. Really worked on the Camaro, and got NUTHIN!
Well...not really. Picked up a second from my first run in it, but i really thought I could get closer to the Viper.

Camaro splits are-
(T1-18.326) seen .159
(T2- 35.733) seen .595
(T3- 54.400) can't get thru the corkscrew with this car.

Got frustrated with the Camaro, so pulled out the Viper and did this.
T1: 18.104
T2: 35.289
T3: 53.475

It's amazing. It seems like there's hidden time all over the track! This lap didn't even feel that great. I know I left another .5 out there. Whether or not I'll get it is another matter.

I took Luxy's advice and tried the taller gearing, and well......I was wrong. Taller gearing was much better in the Viper. The shift points were where they should be, and with the Vipers wider torque band, didn't slow it up coming out of the corners at all. Thanks Luxy!

@Puck927. Awesome T's in the Ford. 👍 Keep with it! I'd like to see someone finish up high with the GT!

@Lewie. Div 3 dude? hmmmmm. That's a very good split there. Good job!


Later all

 

[MisterWeary]

Will give this one a go right NOW! i see the car to drive is the viper, i will post some splits tomorrow along with my week 18 replay

@Mr weary, did the changing of ur view from chase view to inside car view help?

And how!!! For those that use chase view...in the words of holl01..."you're gonna stop that now!" I was a bit hesitant at first having run GT3 and GT4 both in chase view and only ever dabbling with anyting different but I beat my best time by 3 seconds within 5-10 laps. Getting down low to the road seems to give you more confidence when driving...I was stunned at how much better I was driving.

Another thing that stuns me is Lewie's time How the hell is anyone in Div 3 supposed to compete with you man, those are awesome splits 👍

 

[KLR142]

Hell YEAH! I'm excited! I've been running around in my ZERO upgraded horsepower Viper, (588hp, and 0% power quicktune) and saw where I was headed... Then got it! Dirty though on the two turns following the corkscrew... Jeeezzzz. But, I knew it was there, so I kept at it until I got it, cleanly... Then, on my last lap for the night, I matched it through T3, and since I kept it clean(I didn't know I left THAT much time on the T3-end), I beat the dirty ghost by HALF A SECOND!

So, my new splits with the 588hp/1035kg Viper with 370kph gearing:
T1: 18.294
T2: 35.613
T3: 53.648

And yeah, I'm going to be at this for HOURS and HOURS if I'm going to want to beat that time I think... So this may just be the time I submit!

Now if I could get some more people to play along and race in a detuned Viper... Then I might get some competition and have to go chasing after their splits!

Anyone??? Or maybe I'll just chase after the people not using the Viper, that works too. That's what this race is about. And for you that aren't using the Viper, chase after me I guess... Unless you're ahead of me of course...

w0000! I feel good after that lap. Makes me hyper. I'm typing fast. Ok, gnight!

 

[Kent]

I might not be fast enough to run with the gang but I will never stop using chase view as my default.

I like seeing my car during the race.
I like to see the angle my car is at and where it is placed on the track.

I like chase view.

Don't get me wrong either...
I use the bumper view all the time (switching on the fly none the less!).

Still though, I will always end up back in my chase view.

 

[MisterWeary]

Well I'm now a bumper cam convert, not that my splits are superman-like but I can come close to these all day:

T1: 0'18.373
T2: 0'35.898
T3: 0'54.369

However I did have a close call on the corner straight after T1...can anyone verify if I'm enough on the track below:



If not, that's okay I can get this again but it was a nice lap other than this little dirt sojourn.

I am losing buckets of time between T1 - T2...gotta figure that one out?!?

 

[KLR142]

I think that's included in the track, like a rumble strip, just not painted red/white... Isn't it? And what car is that? Might want to include it with your splits too so they can put it into the leaderboard. If it's not a Viper, nice run. 👍

In GT2 I used to always do chase view, the higher of the two. Then in GT3, I couldn't see over the car enough, and did the bumper cam. Now in GT4, I find the bumper cam too low, and I can't see enough of the track for my liking. So recently I've been running around in the roof cam, I seem to leave more room on my sides in it.

 

[MisterWeary]

It's the Viper alright at 599hp...you're W A Y too quick for me KLR even at 588

The problem in the photo is that between the perpindicular white lines under the tyre is all dirt, so I'm *barely* touching the track for a split second

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

clean to me, because a little bit of your tire will be touching concrete 1 more frame ahead

unless you went wider

 

[MisterWeary]

Yeah from the point of that photo the trajectory was back onto the road so it never went further into the sand, thanks for the confirmation KLR & hotboi 👍

 

[Small_Fryz]

Leaderboard updated, Was a difficult update, so i appoligise in advance if i made a mistake

 

[Androoos]

Hell YEAH! I'm excited! I've been running around in my ZERO upgraded horsepower Viper, (588hp, and 0% power quicktune) and saw where I was headed... Then got it! Dirty though on the two turns following the corkscrew... Jeeezzzz. But, I knew it was there, so I kept at it until I got it, cleanly... Then, on my last lap for the night, I matched it through T3, and since I kept it clean(I didn't know I left THAT much time on the T3-end), I beat the dirty ghost by HALF A SECOND!

So, my new splits with the 588hp/1035kg Viper with 370kph gearing:
T1: 18.294
T2: 35.613
T3: 53.648

And yeah, I'm going to be at this for HOURS and HOURS if I'm going to want to beat that time I think... So this may just be the time I submit!

Now if I could get some more people to play along and race in a detuned Viper... Then I might get some competition and have to go chasing after their splits!

Anyone??? Or maybe I'll just chase after the people not using the Viper, that works too. That's what this race is about. And for you that aren't using the Viper, chase after me I guess... Unless you're ahead of me of course...

w0000! I feel good after that lap. Makes me hyper. I'm typing fast. Ok, gnight!

I don't fully understand why you're detuning the car. Do you think it is faster that way??? Or are you just trying to be different?

 

[Ricolamb]

I don't know if it's already been said...but in PAL game the Viper can go from 596 hp (stock) to 601 (with +1%)...
do I have to leave it @ 596?

Rico

 

[ppucci]

KLR, just put what is you exactly configuration for the Viper. I'm game!

 

[fasj6418]

Leaderboard updated, Was a difficult update, so i appoligise in advance if i made a mistake

ok, just to make a quick observation, my time was with the Corvette C5R... (it would be the only vette up there, so its nice to say at least...

anyway, to the racing... last night i tried all 4 of them, raced with gearing at 270 for all (280 for the GT) and have this to say about:

CAMARO LM: the first one i used, and i love the handling, the sound and the gearbox of that car... oddly enough, with this car i had my fastest time overall in my first day...
the car handled very nicelly, and had faster times on T1 compared to other cars... (even had a 17´9 once). didn´t put a great lap togheter, but had 54´0 at T3. i would give a 8 out of 10 for this car.

FORD GT LM II: i figured that the cover of gran turismo could do a decent job against those Lemans american cars... first, the gearing at 280 its probably wrong for this one, i will try a more long gearbox tonight... not enough redline limit, so its one of those cars with a lower RPM shifting. amazing handling if you can put a good driving line... its the best car for the T1-T2 section... just flies on that tricky corner that leads to T2. (had some 35´2 in T2) that defenitely it is the closest to the viper. best split at T3 was 53´880, but with room for improvment, of course. i give 9 out of 10, even though that kind of handling, besides affective, doesn´t really cheears me up.

CORVETTE C5R: drives on rails, and stops in a dime. has the best brakes on those 4 easilly. because of the strong brakes, momentum is more crucial. best split at T3 was 53´948, but could be .6 faster. i liked the handling, i love it because it is a vette, BUT the car was almost at his limit, so by the end of the week, i wont be using anymore i would give a 8,5 out of 10, but can´t keep up with the GT and the ORECA TEAM.

VIPER GTS-R TEAM ORECA: first,

i don´t like vipers
in fact, at one time (GT1) i hated vipers
but, i will be obligated to run with this car to be faster. i ran with the gearing at 270, and didn´t like it at all, tonight i will try with a different setup. anyway, i didn´t get any lap right, and still got 54´0... in the first laps i couldn´t get T1 right with this car, always had 18´3 or 18´2, while the other 3 constantly get to 18´0 ot 18´1. but i saw a lot of potential, i just have to get used to the car... my goal is to get into the 52´s with this one... a lot to be discovered in this one. can´t really give a score, because i didn´t run all that much...

to finish, i would say that the chevys worked well with the shorter gearbox (270), but the GT and the VIPER need a different setup i guess... (puck and curtis, which top speed are you guys using?)

well, i almost forgot, @hot604boi, i think you lost some time in the corkscrew, because in the vette lap, you had a T2 of 35´2, (i had35´8) but the same T3 that i had... seeing my ghost, i was amazed to see how important was to get a good exit speed in the corkscew, and to be careful to not allow the car to jump... a straight line there is crucial... maybe you jumped in that turn, i don´t know, but like you said, doeasn´t really matter, because the VIPER is much faster, specially in the last sector.

well, i hope tomorrow i have new things to say about each car... i will continue to run all of them until the weekend... and then focused on the VIPER...

 

[VEXD]

Rico, you have the wrong car.

Its a gts-r team oreca.

Not a concept.

Nice splits guys, props to Kyle for trying to drive VERY fairly, and here's to the fastest guy in the camaro.

Keep it up people, i like to see friendly banter like this.

Thing is, Hot doesnt seem that far away from everyone, and lewie seems a bit quick again, i spose i'd better just butt out.

Faster hot boi, faster!

👍

 

[Dr_Watson]

welp... put in my first serious effort.
D2 DS2 Viper
T1 18.254
T2 35.553
T3 54.122

on the plus side, my family decided to chip in and get me a DFP for my birthday... should be here any day now... the suspense is killing me.

 

[KLR142]

Nice splits guys, props to Kyle for trying to drive VERY fairly, and here's to the fastest guy in the camaro.

Keep it up people, i like to see friendly banter like this.

Thing is, Hot doesnt seem that far away from everyone, and lewie seems a bit quick again, i spose i'd better just butt out.

Thanks VEXD! Now, how come you aren't joining in on the racing fun?

KLR, just put what is you exactly configuration for the Viper. I'm game!

0% change in horsepower(staying at 588hp stock), only the -10% weight, down to 1035kg. Super soft tires front and rear, and then using 370 gearing and staying out of 6th gear.

I don't fully understand why you're detuning the car. Do you think it is faster that way??? Or are you just trying to be different?

Since the Viper appears to be faster than the other cars, I'd like to make it more even, so each car has a chance, and people don't think they NEED to get into the Viper to be competitive. How much slower my Viper is compared with other Vipers, I have no clue, it could still be faster than the other cars. So I may be doing nothing.

Does someone have a fully skilled B-Spec Bob that can try out these settings vs the other settings in the other cars and see how they compare?

 

[Androoos]

New times in the Viper:

T1: 18.117
T2: 35.292
T3: 53.698

I need to take off the driving aids and use manual tranny, but I've been racing like that for years now and it's hard to relearn.

Wait a second, I think I'm missing something. Lemme get this straight:

1. You're running with the driving aids on
2. You're using an automatic transmission
3. You're in Division 3

And you put up these times? With a 599hp Viper?

Hmmm...

 

[MagpieRacer]

i was thinking the same thing, for a D3 driver as well.

 

[Androoos]

Since the Viper appears to be faster than the other cars, I'd like to make it more even, so each car has a chance, and people don't think they NEED to get into the Viper to be competitive. How much slower my Viper is compared with other Vipers, I have no clue, it could still be faster than the other cars. So I may be doing nothing.

True. I think I might give this a shot tonight just for fun, to see if it makes a big difference. I'll also try your gearing suggestions, for the same reason.

But, Puck has proven that you can go very fast in the Ford GT. I'm sure others will prove the same with the other cars. But, I also believe the Viper will come out on top next Tuesday.

 

[Event]

I'd run this week, but there are 2 problems:

1. I suck at and I hate Laguna Seca

2. I'm leaving for college on Saturday and I have already packed up my PStwo.

 

[SHigSpeed]

Got some more time to play last night. Switched over to the ORECA VIPER (for Luxy...):

T1 18.442 (blew turn 2... have seen 18.2xx laps)
T2 35.789
T3 54.160

I've had segment times that total about .4-.5 seconds faster overall so with more seat time I'm thinking I can get that 54" well into the 53"s (hopefully).

D2/DFP

-SHig

 

[Dave_George]

Need some advice if anyone can help, struggling with turns 3 and 4 the two after the double apex left after the start finish straight, are people using the last marker on side of track as a turn in point? Finding that sometimes i get it right but even slightly late im blighted by understeer city and lose so much time, my splits have gone UP here and down at T3 so i know i can gain everywhere.

Also turn 9 (left hander after the corkscrew) is there a good line through there that doesnt unsettle the car too much? im usually heading through in 5th but having to change down to avoid going off at the exit.......the bump halfway through normally makes the car slide also, sure theres a better route through!

Got a feeling this weeks going to be bad, after 5 or 6 laps ive had enough of this track!

 

[MinorShunt]

Need some advice if anyone can help, struggling with turns 3 and 4 the two after the double apex left after the start finish straight, are people using the last marker on side of track as a turn in point? Finding that sometimes i get it right but even slightly late im blighted by understeer city and lose so much time, my splits have gone UP here and down at T3 so i know i can gain everywhere.

Also turn 9 (left hander after the corkscrew) is there a good line through there that doesnt unsettle the car too much? im usually heading through in 5th but having to change down to avoid going off at the exit.......the bump halfway through normally makes the car slide also, sure theres a better route through!

Got a feeling this weeks going to be bad, after 5 or 6 laps ive had enough of this track!

Try trail braking @ 3 and 4. Works well. (Luxy recommended this earlier) Approach to 3 you should come in from the far left of track, and late apex. Too early and you are off, or scrub speed as you rightly observed. It may be just the way my mind sees the turn, but the only way I can describe it, is that I think of the turn as more square and less arc.

For turn 9, try braking early, and keeping in a higher gear. There's a little hump in the road just before you get to the dip,(the one that makes the car slide) that's where I brake. Then power through the whole corner. That way you don't notice the dip. I'm really clipping the apex rumble strip and then just hanging on to it as it drifts over to the right rumble at exit.

This is a really tough segment to get right, but when you do.....woot!

 

[Dr_Watson]

Also turn 9 (left hander after the corkscrew) is there a good line through there that doesnt unsettle the car too much? im usually heading through in 5th but having to change down to avoid going off at the exit.......the bump halfway through normally makes the car slide also, sure theres a better route through!

i take that by going into it wide open, lifting to 1/2 throttle accross the apex, and powering out at wide open.
when you hit that wierd spot at 1/2 thottle it wont start a slide, the car will just point itself at the inside kerb so you can immediately jump back on the loud pedal and go straight over the kerb and easily get into perfect position for the next corner.