What happens if I get 30 infraction points?
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Staff actions can always be questioned freely, as long as that is done in accordance with the AUP. But going on a curse-filled attack against any user will warrant an infraction, and if it is a big enough rant, it may collect 2 or 3 infractions.
Warning for poor grammar...
You will always get a PM from the infraction system. Also, if you go to your own profile, there should be an Infractions tab that tells you what is on your record.
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Publicly questioning a moderator is brave.
Saying "🤬 🤬 🤬 Jewish Nazi" when addressing one is just plain stupid.
Put this way, if someone came into your restaurant and said all that to you, would you ask him if he'd like appetizers or throw him straight out?
If people are that abusive towards a site's administrators, there's a big chance that they won't be any more civil with regular members. We aren't inclined to give such offenders a second chance.
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There is no courage in abusing someone. Most of the time, those who swear at the moderators do so because they object to being on the receiving end of a warning or an infraction. Some people seem to think the rules do not apply to them, and freely abuse people or ignore grammar rules. When the moderators pull them up on it, they lash out with sweary rants. There is nothing courageous about what they are doing. It is selfish, insolent behaviour from a child who cannot comprehend that he has done something wrong and seems to think that throwing a tantrum will get his way. As for how we feel about it, well, I can only speak for myself. And honestly, I feel disappointed everytime it happens. We have a great community here and we offer you every opportunity to be a part of it. All that we ask is that you follow a few rules that, let's face it, pretty much apply in real life just as much as they do here. You don't walk into a conversation and start trading pornography with complete strangers. You don't go on racist and anti-Semetic tirades where dozens of people can here you. You don't swear in front of your mother. So why do it here? I once pulled someone up for consistently lousy grammar and he demanded that I repeal his warning because he didn't like having it on his profile and he didn't think the rules applied to him. When I reminded him that he had agreed to follow the AUP when he registered with the forums and that the AUP required him to use decent grammar at all times - as a common courtesy, no less, because quite a few of our members do not speak English as a first language - he responded by sending me a sweary rant and half a dozen very explicit pictures. I had no choice but to ban him. Do you think he was showing courage in doing that?
As has been reiterated several times, we are more than happy to discuss moderation-related issues with you, provided that you keep it civil. We almost never issue infractions or warnings in error, and if we do, it's usually because of mitgating circumstances (ie one moderator tells you to do one thing, and a second moderator tells you to do another that contradicts it; if you get an infraction for following one set of instructions, we can repeal it - this is one of the few scenarios where an infraction can be reversed).
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Can accounts get banned for poor grammer?
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Yes.
However generally what happens is after one or more Warnings/Infractions for it (and it's technically "Lazy Grammar"; Bad we don't care about. No effort at making it readable... we do), the user who ends up being banned has a massive, sweary tantrum at one or all of us and is banned for a massive, sweary tantrum.
I'm not aware of any user who has been banned just for lazy grammar.
However generally what happens is after one or more Warnings/Infractions for it (and it's technically "Lazy Grammar"; Bad we don't care about. No effort at making it readable... we do), the user who ends up being banned has a massive, sweary tantrum at one or all of us and is banned for a massive, sweary tantrum.
I'm not aware of any user who has been banned just for lazy grammar.
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Anybody who gets banned for lazy grammar has to work really hard at it.
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I was just curious, Thanks though.
I just got 10 infraction points for saying ibtl, with a comment 'Oh no, not another one', I felt this comment was relevant in respect to yet another new question regarding the 'late' or otherwise seasonal update, is this really worth 10 points? as a new member surely just a polite warning wouldn't have got my back up at all. An aggressively worded infraction is just a little bit ott. It seems to me that there may have been a lot of problems in here regarding spamming/swearing etc in the past but to take this out on a new member is just a little bad mannered.
The infraction points don't bother me as such, its just the way they were delivered and it really has given me a different view of this forum. I have seen so many threads locked when a debate gets a little heated or when the the viewpoint isn't shared by the moderator, in my opinion(and its just an opinion) a little bit of power can be dangerous in the 'wrong' hands.
I really do hope there are some friendly, amenable moderators here. The 2 I have seen have been far from it.
Rob
The infraction points don't bother me as such, its just the way they were delivered and it really has given me a different view of this forum. I have seen so many threads locked when a debate gets a little heated or when the the viewpoint isn't shared by the moderator, in my opinion(and its just an opinion) a little bit of power can be dangerous in the 'wrong' hands.
I really do hope there are some friendly, amenable moderators here. The 2 I have seen have been far from it.
Rob
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And if an infraction has expired and it still shows on your profile? it still adds up?
And another thing it took me a bit to understand what IRL meant (in real life) because Im not english and it took me a lot of time to understand what IMO and IMHO meant (in my opinion) and I kept wondering what was I missing (maybe Im a bit slow or stupid) but in the AUP says that we will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in our messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters. So why does it show up so much? - so much that Im beggining to use IMO and IRL also and God knows how hard it was for me to figure out the meaning of IMO
And another thing it took me a bit to understand what IRL meant (in real life) because Im not english and it took me a lot of time to understand what IMO and IMHO meant (in my opinion) and I kept wondering what was I missing (maybe Im a bit slow or stupid) but in the AUP says that we will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in our messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters. So why does it show up so much? - so much that Im beggining to use IMO and IRL also and God knows how hard it was for me to figure out the meaning of IMO
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Well... there's nothing in the AUP against abbreviations (and AUP itself is an abbreviation). Very hard to ban abbreviations, as that would force everyone to spell out USA or MSG or even LSD every time the word came up in discussion. Not that we use a lot of MSG here... 
...by the way, here's a guide on internet shortcuts:
http://netforbeginners.about.com/od...sary-of-internet-jargon-and-abbreviations.htm
...by the way, here's a guide on internet shortcuts:http://netforbeginners.about.com/od...sary-of-internet-jargon-and-abbreviations.htm
'There's nothing more that upsets us as IBTL posts.'
Really? Possibly an overhaul of your priorities is in order. I have seen everything from personal insults and swearing to racism. But IBTL tops the list?
I get the feeling that a lot of people sit back and stay just long enough to get what they need and leave without adding anything to the community. I realise that a lot of times this is probably not a huge loss. I have been on forums for years and I don't think I've seen such a clean cut way for mods to alienate new members.
Rob
Really? Possibly an overhaul of your priorities is in order. I have seen everything from personal insults and swearing to racism. But IBTL tops the list?
I get the feeling that a lot of people sit back and stay just long enough to get what they need and leave without adding anything to the community. I realise that a lot of times this is probably not a huge loss. I have been on forums for years and I don't think I've seen such a clean cut way for mods to alienate new members.
Rob
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A useless post to say someone else has made a useless post rather than ignoring it and sending us a report tells us (when we eventually do find it - we don't all browse all threads all the time, which is why "Report" is useful to us) that there's two people who aren't interested in functioning as part of our community, rather than just the one sweary, racist pillock.
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Just wanted to pip in here...
While it may seem that way, Rob, typically we close a debate because of the heated-ness of it, not based on our personal opinion on the matter in question. Especially since most debate threads (the heated ones especially) by their very nature have both sides represented. Take the "duping" issue over in the GT5 board; I've personally closed threads that have been pro- and anti-duping, just because of what they degenerate into. Some of us do like to get involved in the actual discussions (Scaff's contributions in the FM3 section, numerous members of staff taking part in the Opinions & Current Events debates), but we make sure to separate our personal disagreements from our moderation duties
. A thread is closed when people can't behave reasonably, or a string of AUP violations take place (or a few other reasons, but those are the main two).
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Ok so I've been here on this account since August. I joined in June on a different account but I requested making a new account.
I have had a warning and an infraction. Is that worse then most new members?
By the way looking at my old account's posts I'm surprised how I didn't get any infractions. The first 100 or so were GT5 forum quality, in the other forums. Guess I was lucky and then I got my act together and started posting properly.
I have had a warning and an infraction. Is that worse then most new members?
By the way looking at my old account's posts I'm surprised how I didn't get any infractions. The first 100 or so were GT5 forum quality, in the other forums. Guess I was lucky and then I got my act together and started posting properly.
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