What WILL you make with a GPS enabled or very detailed track editor?

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Here's what I've came up with. longest straight (which isn't very straight) is just over 1k long, into a tricky uphill chicane (off the side road, onto the highway) into a nice tight technical section. Then a simple run to home with a wide hairpin for the last turn. It's pretty flat for the most part but certainly no airfield and it's about the right length to be interesting :) Untitled.png
 
I worked with Bob's Track Builder. I once created a track from streets in my hometown with GPS data from Google Earth.
The GPS data was pretty helpful for the track layout and the corners, but you had to invest a lot of time in tweaking. Especially the high data was pretty useless, lots of spikes in the elevation, resulting in sudden high differences of several dozen meters! Of course this gives you only the path of the track, after that you have to manually build all the surroundings too.
Hmmm, i guess PD will have to invest a lot of time into thier smoothing technology then, i remember that BTB had problems rendering sharp corners too. They would come out all jagged and bumpy.
@keybladekyle I have times for data for Pukekohe Park Raceway and Taupo New Zealand race park.
Awesome. Pukekohe is an exellent racetrack, especially now that they have re-built the back straight. I'm not such a fan of the Taupo track however, i find it a bit flat through the corners.
I think Hampton Downs would make a good track for GT6, the first corner is so much fun. Watch the start of this video and you will see what i mean.
 
OOOOOHHH! I just got an idea of a track:

Grand Loop, Yellowstone National Park

Now how awesome would that be!

YES! YES! YES!
 
Here's what I'll try to do:
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Its one (or should I say two) of those roads that you drive every day and its always fun, even at 50km/h. So many of the corners are banked the wrong way and there are so many parts that just flow. On some straighter parts I've seen some cars get up to 100 (totally illegal, double the limit) but some corners would send you swimming if you go over 40.

Edit: there's no sense of scale, its about a 21km loop.
 
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If point-to-point tracks are possible, this is one that I have to do.

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Around 8km of a B-Road that has good elevation changes and some amazing corners.
 
Looks like there's going to be a lot of great gps tracks once this app is created for the game. I just hope they've created a better way to share other than having to add a person so you can get their track. Something like a track library plus a rating system for race, drift, high speed, technical, etc so that we can get the top rated tracks in the category we like. I always thought it would have been nice to be able to download the custom tracks from the seasonal events.
 
I drove past this high school track earlier and of course it's a perfect 1/4 mile oval. When I was a kid my Dad used to let us take our karts to the high school oval across the street. So I took a few minutes and came up with this 1.15km kart track based on a 1/4 mile oval, you'd have to do on foot obviously but it could easily be done. I think it would make a great shifter track.

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I'm a bit skeptical about this feature. Will it be true to what it sounds like it is? If so, I'll add this route:

https://www.google.ca/maps?saddr=Hayward St&daddr=49.2211606,-122.3769549 to:Keystone Ave&hl=en&ll=49.195167,-122.35405&spn=0.101185,0.222473&sll=49.200887,-122.389326&sspn=0.050586,0.111237&geocode=FaR_7gIdD1C0-A;FSgO7wIdBq20-CmFSLxOFC6EVDF-DhgLTKKpWA;Fdp_7gIdc1C0-A&mra=dvme&mrsp=1&sz=14&via=1&t=m&z=13

I would go drive this after work plenty of times, and it is one fun drive! I used to do a shorter version across the dam, but it's closed for upgrades, so more straights on a longer version! No traffic, no cops, and very smooth roads with very few bumps and unexpected features.
 
Well exact shape. I'm sure we could adjust the banking after much like we could in GT5.

But let's be honest here, 90% of this thread is "way ahead of ourselves". Way to single me out.
Speaking of ovals, if we can control banking, there are going to be some epic ovals in GT6. It's an easy shape to reproduce. Let's hope we have control over elevation and can keep them flat that.:cheers:
 
Hey, who's up for driving around Phillip Island with their GPS once this thing's going?

I will literally, go and buy a better GPS if I need it, to get this to work as good as possible, have a great 'point-to-point' track in mind, but if there's the chance to edit these at all that'd be pretty awesome too, just add a direct straight at the end linking back to the start, or whatever you wanted, could be fantastic, all depends on what devices it will accept, and how easy it'll be to get that data to the PS3, formats ect.
 
Yep. Not only GT6's GPS feature is not going to be released this year, but also relies on the degree of customization the track creator provides and, most importantly, on if the GPS readings can be used with that tool.

If both aren't great, spectacular even, then everyone is having their hopes way up. All remember GPS tracking is not that accurate, particularly for elevation changes and bumps, and without customization there won't be practically any use for it. So, if there isn't GPS data integration with the track creator or if the track creator itself is not good enough, then GPS-made circuits and point-to-point stages will not have buildings/scenery, with incorrect width and apexes, flat roads, etc.

Finally, even if all conditions are met still the final work won't look anywhere near as what the real place looks like, because the tool certainly won't allow pictures and importing modeled assets. This aspect is of the essence on a realistic looking game, not so much in cartoony ones. The way to solving this a bit would be the game to include tons and tons of used and unused textures and models, from existent GT6 circuits and lots of assets especially made for this tool to work, which is not going to happen.

All that means GPS tracking will be rather gimmicky. The hype train is way too strong on this one. If anyone wants to play their local track or road then search (google) if it is already made for rfactor or another game/sim, and if it isn't then the only solution is to make it from scratch on a PC. That or using the a google maps 2d car site, which isn't the same but it's something.


Didn't Jordan just post something on this, that there will be an app that will create a track based on gps data (lat/lon and altitude). If it is still hype, then whatever...you wont be disappointed because you believe that its not gonna be there and when it arrives, it'll suck. This thread is about what you are gonna make. What you're doing is for the whining and crying thread.

But ultimately I wouldn't be disappointed in what I make, because it doesn't have be perfect. Most people will be able to imagine all those details in their head. Nothing is ever perfect in a game. The places I have grown up with and driven, I have the details in my head. Its a simulator, not the real thing.

A good comparison would be flight simulator (Microsoft FSX). A lot of man hours were spent building that game and not to mention the people building scenery and aircraft with SDKs. They strive to make it close. Someone made one of the types of planes that I fly at work. The video on youtube looks awesome...airframe, sounds, cockpit. Its close, but it doesn't substitute for the real thing. But...when it gets banned in 2015, I could fly it on the computer and have memories to pretend.

I know after the last "creator" its hard to believe. And i too would like more details on the process of making a course. But for the next couple of weeks or months till we get this, please try not to be such a negative nancy and let the people that want this, dream a little.
 
Have you ever tried to make an oval with the GT5 course creator? It's near impossible.

This will give me the exact shape and banking characteristics to put it in GT6 where we have, what, two ovals for the NASCAR cars they give is to play with?

I plan to race MIS next year. It will be the road course, but worth mapping. I could also do Belle Isle for any of you Indy Car fans.
 
To my understanding, I would be able to turn my gps on, and record my driving. So I planned on making a track out of my commute. :D
 
ok I admit it, I almost had a nerdgasm when I read this !! :D ...
I spend my weekends riding my CBR on mountain passes around here ( to name a few : Passo dei Giovi, del Faiallo, del Turchino, Centocroci, della Cisa, della Scoglina, Monte Fasce, Monte Tomarlo etc ) and in summer it gets even better with passes in the alps and in Corsica ...
As I always have a GPS recording app on my phone, I can't wait to setup and share some Italian roads in GT6 ... it was my dream since I first heard of some course maker in GT5
 
Well my expectations are low, but atleast we can get "real" layouts of existing Tracks or Roads in GT6.
I think it will work very basically. If everybody has very low expectations, everybody will be surprised if it is semi-decent:D

Well if the Data is almost correctly done, I would consider going to other German Tracks like Sachsenring, Oschersleben, Lausitzring (Tri-Oval possibility for NASCAR) and just drive around them.
Maybe Go to Zandvoort too due to me living quite near to the Boarder.

Atleast GTP is worldwide => the Trackmarketplace will be good visited by me :D
And some people of this thread have great Ideas and many of them posted Road-Tracks would be very fine for racing 👍

GT6 will surprise me with this feature due to GT5´s semi-dissapointment of the Track-editor. (for me)
 
What I love about this thread is finding out i'm not the only nutter who drives around imagining street circuits all over my home town.

Are you kidding, we're ALL nutters. As teens we used to drive circuits around our neighborhood and imagine what it would be like to race it!:cheers: Good times

This GPS stuff just facilitates the child in all of us. And to be frank I'm ok with us going over our heads in this thread, gives me a break from the cynicism and sarcasm usually prevalent on forums.:mischievous:
 
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