What would the World be like if the U.S.A never existed?

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Like it was before the United States became a country, just more advanced.

Britain wouldn't have an RS Focus...
 
first of all, probably flight wouldnt have been up for a few more decades, alot of huge advancements in automobiles, flight, space, and other things wouldnt be were they are right now. The countries of this planet are interdepandant on each other whether they are allies or axis. Plus you guys would be speaking german if we didnt have to help bail you out in WWII (I mean this nicely as GB helped us out as well). What kind of question is this anyway? Oh yeah and no Focus RS or Viper...
 
Probably not. No matter what country it is, the would wouldnt be a better place if it was gone. Think of it, if no Japan, no PS and all those other neato gadgets and cars and stuff...
 
Europe would be overpopulated. Spain and Portugal would be important nations. And, of course, no Focus RS... :mischievous:
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Plus you guys would be speaking german if we didnt have to help bail you out in WWII (I mean this nicely as GB helped us out as well).

:rolleyes: - You're a fool. What about all the other nations that helped too? I bet you're an A+ history student.

I don't honestly think anyone has the answer for the question at hand. The world would certainly be different
 
Originally posted by HRT_Maloo
Holden and HSV would still have the Aussie 305 V8, not the Gen III LS1:(

There would be no Holden or HSV - they are both General Motors companies. The Japanese would have no competition for cheap cars - imagine the amount of fart-can civics :(.
 
Originally posted by Sludge Slide
There would be no Holden or HSV - they are both General Motors companies. The Japanese would have no competition for cheap cars - imagine the amount of fart-can civics :(.
Well, there might be a Holden - it was Australian owned before GM took over.

This is an interesting question - if the US hadn't been, well, let's set up some assumptions here.

There's still this giant space underpopulated where the US would be today. Assuming the reason it's not populated is because English attempts to colonise have failed, either the Native Americans, the Mexicans or the French (given their presence in Canada in the 16th-17th centuries) would have colonised it.

Interesting - do you think what is now the US would have become this weird kind of Europe? Maybe the tensions that eventually lead to WW1 (i.e. a Germany desperate to get her hands on resources) might not have materialised, or indeed might have been much worse - perhaps western European countries retreating to the North American continent in the face of a rampantly expanding Germany?

I doubt it would have made much difference to economic or technological development - the Industrial Revolution had already taken place before the US took off, and you've still got competition between the European countries driving advances. Someone would have gotten their hands on the resources of the North American continent, so the increase in available resources from the discovery of the New World would have still happened.

I think you'd have seen a much stronger Europe, assuming the wealth of the land flowed back there (much as it did in South America). What is now the US would have probably been similar to Europe, made up of colonies of various European countries (probably less than Europe), and there would probably have been one or more WW1 type European wars.

Japan's expansion into Asia would have probably gone unchecked, as European interest would have been focused west rather than east. I'd like to think Australia would be similar to what it is today, but I don't know if it would have been.

Mmmm.....
 
Originally posted by vat_man
I'd like to think Australia would be similar to what it is today, but I don't know if it would have been.

Mmmm.....

I don't think Australia would have been colonised. I think the continent of North America would have been used for what Australia was used for - a place to store convicts and general ratbags. If Australia wasn't colonised by Europeans, I think it would end up a new Asian country. The same can be said about New Zealand. What do you think?
 
The world would stink if U.S. never existed. I can imagine mass suicides and chaos everywhere.
cannibalism and disease would be common.
People would be living in trees flinging crap at each other..
 
Originally posted by Sludge Slide
:rolleyes: - You're a fool. What about all the other nations that helped too? I bet you're an A+ history student.

I don't honestly think anyone has the answer for the question at hand. The world would certainly be different

Calm down dude,you didnt read all of it as I said GB helped us alot too :rolleyes:...
 
BTW VatMan, maybe he meant if there wasnt any land in the first place, like it was cut out. And you might be right about some advancement not coming too but some would probably not have come in for a long time. Like flight with the Wright brothers, flight might have taken longer to develop. If one country didnt exist it would make a big change in everything as each country influences anothers actions and their people...
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Maybe the tensions that eventually lead to WW1 (i.e. a Germany desperate to get her hands on resources)
I thought WWI started because some college kid assasinated some important German guy.
 
There's still this giant space underpopulated where the US would be today. Assuming the reason it's not populated is because English attempts to colonise have failed, either the Native Americans, the Mexicans or the French (given their presence in Canada in the 16th-17th centuries) would have colonised it.

Interesting - do you think what is now the US would have become this weird kind of Europe? Maybe the tensions that eventually lead to WW1 (i.e. a Germany desperate to get her hands on resources) might not have materialised, or indeed might have been much worse - perhaps western European countries retreating to the North American continent in the face of a rampantly expanding Germany?

I doubt it would have made much difference to economic or technological development - the Industrial Revolution had already taken place before the US took off, and you've still got competition between the European countries driving advances. Someone would have gotten their hands on the resources of the North American continent, so the increase in available resources from the discovery of the New World would have still happened.

I think you'd have seen a much stronger Europe, assuming the wealth of the land flowed back there (much as it did in South America). What is now the US would have probably been similar to Europe, made up of colonies of various European countries (probably less than Europe), and there would probably have been one or more WW1 type European wars.

Japan's expansion into Asia would have probably gone unchecked, as European interest would have been focused west rather than east. I'd like to think Australia would be similar to what it is today, but I don't know if it would have been.

Mmmm.....


I don't think Australia would have been colonised. I think the continent of North America would have been used for what Australia was used for - a place to store convicts and general ratbags. If Australia wasn't colonised by Europeans, I think it would end up a new Asian country. The same can be said about New Zealand. What do you think?

Something like that. Native Americans had no guns (and very little in the way of pestilence, either), and were rather easy to annhilate/segregate. I think of European settlement of the "US" as such: when China, Mongolia, Korea had all failed in their attempts to invade Japan, they hame back headless due to superior swordsmanship.

If Native Americans had been able to rout Europeans, they would have needed a far more superior weapon than what was already in thier rather primitive (even for the 1600's) arsenal.

But had there been no desire for conquest by Spain and Portugal in the 15-16th century, and Britian in the 17th, then the world, not just the US, would be vastly different altogether.

However, if there were just a void where the US is today (let's say it was more like the Sahara or Gobi Desert throughout), then I suppose the United Kingdom would still represent about 1/3 of the land mass of the world.

Except for those damn Falkland Islanders!
 
Originally posted by pupik
the United Kingdom would still represent about 1/3 of the land mass of the world.

Well, yeah, but they wouldn't be able to get everywhere quickly, because they'd have no RS Focus...

Don't get me started on the Falkland Islands. :mad:
 
Originally posted by DGB454
The world would stink if U.S. never existed. I can imagine mass suicides and chaos everywhere.
cannibalism and disease would be common.
People would be living in trees flinging crap at each other..

:mischievous: I think so too.
 
Originally posted by Sludge Slide
:rolleyes: - You're a fool.

You're a chronic name caller. Get a grip. And get a new smiley while you're at it.

If there was no U.S. the Indians would've had all of North America (because, lets face it, there'd be no Canada either) until Spain came up from Mexico and over from what would've been California, and took it for themselves. Same crap different language.

The notion that all those greedy Europeans that settled The US would've somehow just stayed on their side of the Atlantic is preposterous.

America was cursed from the beginning. All that land just sitting there for the taking. It was always just a matter of time.
 
Originally posted by Eddy
I thought WWI started because some college kid assasinated some important German guy.

Well, that was the 'ignition' but just about everyone in the region was spoiling for a fight - it was a 'when', not an 'if'.
 
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