The hate for the rewind is based on the thesis that it makes the players worst drivers,in an online race or a real race you cant do rewind and fix your screw,is just stupid the concept of endlessly repeat each corner on a time trial to get a perfect time ,is stupid and irrational,and is no fun either the system is design for starters, that is why there is a licence test instead of that in GT ,is not fair to win every race based on fix every mistake you do,make a mistake you crash,you lose the race do it again,is the best way instead of lose the apex repeat it whenever you want until you get it perfect race,the racing games and races in general are based on human factor,but if you take that out what do you get nothing just everybody becoming worst drivers,they same happen to the race line but this is more starters use after all is a sim racing game not an arcade.
What would YOU find dissapointing in GT5?
- Thread starter Devedander
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The hate for the rewind is based on the thesis that it makes the players worst drivers,in an online race or a real race you cant do rewind and fix your screw,is just stupid the concept of endlessly repeat each corner on a time trial to get a perfect time ,is stupid and irrational,and is no fun either the system is design for starters, that is why there is a licence test instead of that in GT ,is not fair to win every race based on fix every mistake you do,make a mistake you crash,you lose the race do it again,is the best way instead of lose the apex repeat it whenever you want until you get it perfect race,the racing games and races in general are based on human factor,but if you take that out what do you get nothing just everybody becoming worst drivers,they same happen to the race line but this is more starters use after all is a sim racing game not an arcade.
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- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
Is this feature in those PC racing sims not being a smart guy i just wanna know. I can understand people saying you don't have to use it, but many people will, and imo it kills the grinding part of learning your car and the course. When playing a sim type racing game i think they should keep the aspect of when you mess up a turn, you have to put it behind you conquer the rest of the track, and when that turns comes back up destroy it with vengeance. If they have rewind In GT It wont bother me because I won't use it, but many people will. IMO they will miss out on that real track experience when it comes to mastering a track. 👍
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Well in real "simulators" usually there is some kind of rewind feature (like commercial flight sim) for the exact purpose of learning by practicing only the parts that give you trouble.
I am not aware of any PC driving sims such as we are used to (ie GTR, LFS etc) that have rewind.
Having used rewind in a lot of games I think fear and dislike of it is like fear and dislike of gay people... it's often based on false assumptions and ignorance.
See the thing is people think everyone should play like them and enjoy like them and don't look at it form another persons point of view. For instance a lot of people do not find grinding or having to redo the whole thing after a small mess up enjoyable. For them rewind can often be what it takes to make the game enjoyable and in the process get better because they are actually playing.
As for getting perfect times in time trials, I would be very surprised if rewind ever was put in a game without some kind of marker to show that it was used so a perfect time trial with rewind marker isn't much to fear.
And as for making people better, ironically I have found it actually does make people better... because the people I find that use rewind a lot are ones who would just stop trying after going off track thus leaving them to forever be a wrecking ball of a driver. However the aiblity to redo and practice a small section without being penalized a whole race often means they do and I have seen plenty of people get better in a game with rewind who simply refused to try anymore on a game without.
Therew as a whole rewind thread where I got into this a lot so I will just leave this one here, but I just put out there, consider that the things you may think will happen with rewind or think will necessariy be bad maybe just not throught through very well or thought through with a skewed perspective.
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- IRT_hordeR35
- Whats an Xbox??
Rewind is for crappy racers with no ability to race what so ever. And above all those people will never learn. FULL STOP. Buy Super mario Kart instead 
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EDIT: I dont have any fears of who or what, when ill use it. Its good for noobs. GT is made for Pros. Unrealistic.
!EDIT: I dont have any fears of who or what, when ill use it. Its good for noobs. GT is made for Pros. Unrealistic.
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- GasolineJunkee; babygangstayurd
I've never played a game that had a rewind feature but I would really like it to learn courses. If there are only two sections of the Nurburgring that I am struggling with in a certain car, I think it would be cool to be able to concentrate on those areas of the track instead of having to keep going back around. I would want it strictly for that aspect of it.
Of course there are people who would want to use it in the GT mode and "cheat" their way through some races, but what do I care if that is what they want to do? Some people aren't as into really learning HOW to race different cars like MOST of us are. They just wanna play a game and win some cars.
It's like Devedander said, if you don't like it, you don't have to use it. I've never used NOS in GT4 because I don't like it, but some people do. And I also don't plan on using the "oh so important reverse lights" all that much either!
But they make some folks happy.
IMO, the more options, the better because it will appeal to alot more audiences.👍
Of course there are people who would want to use it in the GT mode and "cheat" their way through some races, but what do I care if that is what they want to do? Some people aren't as into really learning HOW to race different cars like MOST of us are. They just wanna play a game and win some cars.
It's like Devedander said, if you don't like it, you don't have to use it. I've never used NOS in GT4 because I don't like it, but some people do. And I also don't plan on using the "oh so important reverse lights" all that much either!
But they make some folks happy.IMO, the more options, the better because it will appeal to alot more audiences.👍
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- GTP_Nismo
it's not coming to the xbox 360.
but i understand. gt5 is too much of a game to be played on an inferior hardware. i wonder if my Radeon HD 5850 pc can handle it. maybe, but there is no other developer that is as great as PD in making sim racers. i mean, NSF shift looked no better than GT5P on my pc.
so yeah, i'm disappointed that this game is PS3 only.
but i understand. gt5 is too much of a game to be played on an inferior hardware. i wonder if my Radeon HD 5850 pc can handle it. maybe, but there is no other developer that is as great as PD in making sim racers. i mean, NSF shift looked no better than GT5P on my pc.
so yeah, i'm disappointed that this game is PS3 only.
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I'm loving almost everything about GT5, except for the engine sounds of some cars. I think some of the engine sounds in GT5 (from gameplay vids) are a rehash of GT4. The way the peugeot 908 sounds in the demo on Le mans sounds nothing like the real race car, but I am still very excited this car made it into GT5
well at least there is something that I wont find disappointing in GT5:
TRACKS !!!!
http://www.racesimcentral.com/news/2010/07/gran-turismo-5/
lets hope that all the original circuits will be in
TRACKS !!!!
http://www.racesimcentral.com/news/2010/07/gran-turismo-5/
lets hope that all the original circuits will be in
No cockpit view for 800 cars
No 3d for 800 cars
No main beam headlights for 800 cars
Poor sound for 800 cars
Poor graphics for 800 cars
No night or weather for 800 cars
No wipers for weather on all cars
bad tyre screeching for All cars
Europe release date 26/11/2010 or delayed further
back seats for premium cars
No back seats or any other detail in rear view mirror on premium cars
All tracks from GT4 aren't present
Massive steering wheel on Mazda RX7 seen in gt5p
No 3d for 800 cars
No main beam headlights for 800 cars
Poor sound for 800 cars
Poor graphics for 800 cars
No night or weather for 800 cars
No wipers for weather on all cars
bad tyre screeching for All cars
Europe release date 26/11/2010 or delayed further
back seats for premium cars
No back seats or any other detail in rear view mirror on premium cars
All tracks from GT4 aren't present
Massive steering wheel on Mazda RX7 seen in gt5p
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- Canada
Kaz said that they will not fix it in an interview, he said that they made the slip stream really strong so when your racing, and you start from the back to make it easier for the begginer players. But I think that sucks, I hate it when they also have to focus the game on the main stream players and not the experienced players here.
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- race_emhard
I won't mind this (Hong Kong and Seoul Central springs to mind).
And if ALL the R32, R33, and R34 Skyline GT-Rs weren't in
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- RANKO_GT_SERBIA
And I got a feeling he's going to be happy .
Things I would find disappointing the the point where I could consider not buying the game, of course the inclusion of a track editor has pretty much guaranteed a buy from me now:
1. Poor sound quality always a glaring weakness of all the GT game, although GT3 had it pretty good. PD hasn't instilled any confidence in me that this has been addressed with recent videos either.
2. Lack of greatly improved car tuning. The whole stage 1,2 and 3 tuning model has been used virtually unchanged from the first GT game and is in serious need of an overhaul.
Things that would disappoint me, but not enough for me to do anymore than shake my head about it and complain a bit:
1. Having 50+ skylines, or some other outrageous number, in the game like previous versions with glaring omissions of other cars.
2. Not having engine swaps in some capacity. It would be fun for sure, but definitely not a dealbreaker if its not in. Id like to swap an LS1 into a classic celica, 240z or 2000gt. Think about the hours of fun that could be had just doing things like that.
3. No Porsche. Or has this been worked out one way or another?
1. Poor sound quality always a glaring weakness of all the GT game, although GT3 had it pretty good. PD hasn't instilled any confidence in me that this has been addressed with recent videos either.
2. Lack of greatly improved car tuning. The whole stage 1,2 and 3 tuning model has been used virtually unchanged from the first GT game and is in serious need of an overhaul.
Things that would disappoint me, but not enough for me to do anymore than shake my head about it and complain a bit:
1. Having 50+ skylines, or some other outrageous number, in the game like previous versions with glaring omissions of other cars.
2. Not having engine swaps in some capacity. It would be fun for sure, but definitely not a dealbreaker if its not in. Id like to swap an LS1 into a classic celica, 240z or 2000gt. Think about the hours of fun that could be had just doing things like that.
3. No Porsche. Or has this been worked out one way or another?
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- Qronicle
I will be dissapointed if Trial Mountain, Deep Forest or Grand Valley are not included or only available as upscaled GT3/4 tracks. I will be even more dissapointed if they include an upscaled GT4 version of Trial mountain instead of the GT3 version (which was way more beautiful in my opinion)
A bit lower on my list would be the absence of weather conditions
A bit lower on my list would be the absence of weather conditions
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: no Porsche in GT5, hopefully in GT6.
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I will be dissapointed if Trial Mountain, Deep Forest or Grand Valley are not included or only available as upscaled GT3/4 tracks. I will be even more dissapointed if they include an upscaled GT4 version of Trial mountain instead of the GT3 version (which was way more beautiful in my opinion)
A bit lower on my list would be the absence of weather conditions
Gran Turismo is not a Gran Turismo without those tracks, as for the details I think it will be something special, no wonder they were not shown yet...
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- SmoothHerb
What would YOU find disappointing in GT5?
I find it disappointing, that I don´t have the time to play like when I was 16 years old and GT1 hit me.
Beside that I´m very confident that we will not have:
20 Tracks
no cockpit for 800 cars
bad sound
no more elevator music
and so on
That is GT 5 !!! No crapy game. We all will be satisfied, when we don´t expect realtime-growing trees or birds in the sky.
But I think we will get massive online problems at the start- That seems to be normal these days and will be fixed within weeks.
I find it disappointing, that I don´t have the time to play like when I was 16 years old and GT1 hit me.
Beside that I´m very confident that we will not have:
20 Tracks
no cockpit for 800 cars
bad sound
no more elevator music
and so on
That is GT 5 !!! No crapy game. We all will be satisfied, when we don´t expect realtime-growing trees or birds in the sky.
But I think we will get massive online problems at the start- That seems to be normal these days and will be fixed within weeks.
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