Which is Faster Supra or skyline..??

[Leonidae]

Supra has low-end torque that results as wheelspin from 3500rpms onwards, even on R5's when going after 300mph. and I noticed that it got pretty wheezy after 5500rpms. and the power/torque display in setup screen tells me the same: torque drops before 7000rpms, which is the main reason why Supra is slower when going for 300mph. but that's not the point here, is it? it's handling in realistic race, on tracks with multiple corners and so.. I'd go for GT-R as well. traction over wheelspin any day. especially IRL, if one lives in Finland

 

[4DSC]

They are both great! Skyline ownz in the end just because its a Skyline! Thats how close the competition is.. Also if Im not mistaken, the chassis is more set up for racing on the Skyline.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

They are both great! Skyline ownz in the end just because its a Skyline! Thats how close the competition is.. Also if Im not mistaken, the chassis is more set up for racing on the Skyline.

Wrong,

Honda & Toyota beated the Skylines in the Super GT several times.

 

[Leonidae]

but lost the overall championship, if I have my facts right.

 

[Michael88]

Attention! Personal opinions warning!

Im not a Supra-fanboy nor a Skyline-lover but I have to say that the Supra looks ten times more like a sports car than the junky skyline family sedan.
Just look at those anti-aerodynamic devices of the skyline aka as edges and that high-angled bonnet, no thats not good for the airflow.

The supra is much more areodynamic with its round shape, and with RWD its the true sports car.

Well, today Ill make a small test between them around the Nürburgring.💡

 

[Kent]

About the race cars... I think that's going to be driver first, car second (know what I mean?).
With that in mind, there's probably a small gap created by the Supra's wheelspin and as the tires on each car get better, the gap gets smaller. Eventually the race cars end up being nearly even (jgtc cars). The only Skyline race car I can think of that is not on par with the jgtc Supras is the "heavy" Falken GT-R, which happens to be one of my favs.

Headed off to school now, catch you all later.

 

[Dark Elite]

Kent, you might find the Falken GT-R a bit slower because it's not actually built for JGTC (Super GT) it was made for the Nürburgring 24 Hours race, and so naturally the different regulations resulted in higher weight compared to JGTC cars. I don't think GT4 labels it as a JGTC car, either.
But I don't care how much extra weight it carries, I love the paintjob and the unmodified front light clusters, also one of my favourite racing Skylines

DE

 

[4DSC]

Wrong,

Honda & Toyota beated the Skylines in the Super GT several times.

Huh? I thought the real point was to compare the production models. Race cars are race cars and can have their own variations and different things, that the production cars don't really have. If Im not mistaken, the Super GT keeps the Skyline at bay with RWD and the Supra has a 4 cyl.. Not that these things are necessarily bad, it's just not what the production models have.

 

[Dark Elite]

the Supra has a 4 cyl..

*cough*WoodOne*cough*

Anyway, that post was a specific response to your comment on racing setups... I know you didn't mean for actual racing - does anyone think the JGTC/Super GT cars use stock suspension setups from the roadcars? I think you meant more as in the stock cars being capable of track day use, or similar?

DE

 

[Kent]

Thanks for reiterating that point DE. 👍
I already knew that of course (in fact, I downloaded a great video about the Falken GT-R just the other day).
And no, they don't label it as a JGTC car, I was only reffering to it as a Skyline race car (not a jgtc) although the context of the paragraph made that subtle point hard to pick up on.

About the 4cyl. Supras and whatnot... I actually don't think the Supras run 4cyl. for the sake of keeping things even. Instead, I'm pretty sure they do it for the weight.
And for the Skyline's, I'm guessing there probably are regulations about 4wd, but just the same, I bet there are many Skyline teams running RWD by choice.

Finally, I just want to mention that whatever the case, I really like both of these cars.
Also, one of the biggest disappointments to me in this game is the lack of a Tuner Supra. Even the old TRD 3000 from GT1 and GT2 would have been great (it certainly would have been awesome!).

Any way... Later!

 

[4DSC]

*cough*WoodOne*cough*

Anyway, that post was a specific response to your comment on racing setups... I know you didn't mean for actual racing - does anyone think the JGTC/Super GT cars use stock suspension setups from the roadcars? I think you meant more as in the stock cars being capable of track day use, or similar?

DE

Im sorry, but I don't see how what your talking about refers to my post? Are you qouting the right person?

Thanks for reiterating that point DE. 👍
I already knew that of course (in fact, I downloaded a great video about the Falken GT-R just the other day).
And no, they don't label it as a JGTC car, I was only reffering to it as a Skyline race car (not a jgtc) although the context of the paragraph made that subtle point hard to pick up on.

My mistake, confused the Super GT with JGTC

And for the Skyline's, I'm guessing there probably are regulations about 4wd, but just the same, I bet there are many Skyline teams running RWD by choice.

In what current competition other then the JGTC has there been a Skyline which chooses to use RWD over the AWD system that apparently dominated where ever it went? The Skyline in the Speed GT now definatly appreciates it's AWD, I'll tell ya that much. 👍

 

[Kent]

Hey, sounds cool to me DSC.
I don't know of many non-jgtc skyline race cars... Only a few at best. So I'm guessing this means the Skylines in "Super GT" are using FR as a handicap? Thanks for clearing that up. I've only had time to learn a little about the jgtc, not too much.
So the FR is Nissan's handicap, how about that!

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

Supras are using MR2 engines in the Super GT, thats why they're 4 cyl.


Why?

As in the Top Secret GT300, this engine is so small, it can be placed longer back in the engine bay to come closer to a 50:50 weight balance 👍

but lost the overall championship, if I have my facts right.

I dunno about the latest but they won in 2001 (Denso Sard) and in 2004 (Eclipse Advan)

 

[Jay]

Hey, sounds cool to me DSC.
I don't know of many non-jgtc skyline race cars... Only a few at best. So I'm guessing this means the Skylines in "Super GT" are using FR as a handicap? Thanks for clearing that up. I've only had time to learn a little about the jgtc, not too much.
So the FR is Nissan's handicap, how about that!

Skyline never raced in Super GT, the 350Z replaced the Skyline before the Super GT name change (from JGTC).

 

[Revil]

Which is faster supra or skyline?? Which is better at turning supra or skyline?? which accellerate faster supra or skyline?? Which one is BETTERR supra or skyline??

kg

Which is faster supra or skyline?? Which is better at turning supra or skyline?? which accellerate faster supra or skyline?? Which one is BETTERR supra or skyline??

Hello, I made the test and the Supra RZ full tuned is the fastest stock car in the game, in Midfield I get e time of 1'01.242 without nitro with this car, the Skyline is far away, the only car that can beat or tie with Supra is the Viper GTS full tuned.

 

[Dark Elite]

Revil, it seems you have totally ignored the (almost twenty pages of) replies in this thread when making that post. Had you read said replies, you would know that we have realised that pure driver preference decides which car is faster, although the GT-R34 Skylines, particularly V-SpecII models, have a considerable advantage. We are running a test at the moment to find the faster of the cars, putting a Skyline driver against a Supra driver to ensure that both cars are driven totally to their limits and without bias. Sorry to sound a little impolite, and you're certainly not the first person to make such a post in this thread, but it is starting to become annoying.

Oh, and by the way: Pink_the_Floyd and Revil, try not to double-post - there is an Edit button, at least one of you should know that by now

DE

 

[Kent]

Skyline never raced in Super GT, the 350Z replaced the Skyline before the Super GT name change (from JGTC).

Sorry about that (like it's a big deal any way! ).
I just used them inter-changeably. (sp?)
It's not about SuperGT vs JGTC to me just cause JGTC will always be SuperGT and the other way around.
The point of my post had nothing to do with the technical name of the racing series. (that can also be seen by my use of quotes around superGT as it was more a response to how others have so quickly adopted the new name while I'm still getting jgtc out of my mind)

Finally, I didn't realize all those Skyline teams had retired. I knew there were a few Z teams but I didn't think the entire field of Skyline's had been replaced.
None the less, they have been replaced.

 

[4DSC]

Who has more victories in official racing under their belt? Supra or Skyline? Im guessing Skyline was raced more, so it has way more victories?

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

For your information DE, I do not double post, where did you see me double posting then?


BTW: THis thread is getting seriously out of line, we're heading towards Drifting & Other Motosports right now...

 

[Revil]

Revil, it seems you have totally ignored the (almost twenty pages of) replies in this thread when making that post. Had you read said replies, you would know that we have realised that pure driver preference decides which car is faster, although the GT-R34 Skylines, particularly V-SpecII models, have a considerable advantage. We are running a test at the moment to find the faster of the cars, putting a Skyline driver against a Supra driver to ensure that both cars are driven totally to their limits and without bias. Sorry to sound a little impolite, and you're certainly not the first person to make such a post in this thread, but it is starting to become annoying.

Oh, and by the way: Pink_the_Floyd and Revil, try not to double-post - there is an Edit button, at least one of you should know that by now

DE

DE, sorry bother you with my post, I'm new and I'm trying to know both, the sistem and the handling of the site, is not easy to me because my mother tong is spanish so it make the situation worst. I think that the main topic of the site is to talk about the game from each player's view to share the knowledge, of course here are all kind of players and I think that I have enaught expirience playing GT to give my opinion without reading the other members posts, the main question here is witch car is fast, Sky or Supra, I told Supra from my personal experience, maybe I'm rong maybe not, I dont't need start any reaserch to answer that question...
By the way, thanks for your advise about the Edit button, when I realized about it was to late.

Revil

PD.: Of course if you want we can start a personal reaserch, you can run with your best Skyline and I can take my Supra and make you bite the dust!, I think is the best and amuse way to solve this argue don't you?

 

[Leonidae]

you..? against DE? no offense, but he's second best driver in our team.. you have no chance. besides, he's already involved in one challenge just like the one you suggested, driving against Sonzilla. read the few last pages and be afraid.

 

[Revil]

mmm I see, I'm trembling , and what do you spect I tell "I'm realy sorry I didn't know who was dealing with, now I'm afraid, please forgiveme" (with tiny voice) Noooo!!!, I'm not afraid, besides you dont't know me, and I' m wondering who are you DE's girlfriend or his lawyer to fender him, I think hi is enough sharp to answerme himself, I'm wating now, I'm new but not a chicken and if he is the second one in your team better to me, I like to eat good ones only...

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

Oh paleeease Leo, just ask a WRS driver and he would stand up hard against DE, even a D3, a D2 or D1 guy would just pwne him.


No offense, but it's true. I'm getting me ass kicked all the time of those in the WRS who've never drove a Supra and I do all the time.




BTW:

Please keep it calm Revil, no need to turn up the voices in here.

 

[Kent]

For your information DE, I do not double post, where did you see me double posting then?


BTW: THis thread is getting seriously out of line, we're heading towards Drifting & Other Motosports right now...

I merged the double post and didn't mention anything. You did double post though and "Revil" here did the same double posting. Only look here, his response is so "newbie" that it is polite.
Imagine that?!

How about you lighten up "Pink"?
Much appreciate your efforts,
-GTP Staff.

DE, sorry bother you with my post, I'm new and I'm trying to know both, the sistem and the handling of the site, is not easy to me because my mother tong is spanish so it make the situation worst. I think that the main topic of the site is to talk about the game from each player's view to share the knowledge, of course here are all kind of players and I think that I have enaught expirience playing GT to give my opinion without reading the other members posts, the main question here is witch car is fast, Sky or Supra, I told Supra from my personal experience, maybe I'm rong maybe not, I dont't need start any reaserch to answer that question...
By the way, thanks for your advise about the Edit button, when I realized about it was to late.

Revil

PD.: Of course if you want we can start a personal reaserch, you can run with your best Skyline and I can take my Supra and make you bite the dust!, I think is the best and amuse way to solve this argue don't you?

English isn't your native language is it? Not laughing at you, laughing with you my friend.

I think that says...
"I play GT4 and wanted to answer the question. If you disagree, then the most enjoyable way to answer the question would be a race. My Supra will do well!"
Sounds reasonable to me.

None the less, "Revil,"
Generally speaking, the Supra puts out too much wheelspin on anything other than Racing tires.
The Supra just can't keep Sports and Normal tires under control as well as the Skyline.

Till next time,
-

 

[Jay]

Sorry about that (like it's a big deal any way! ).

Yeah, it's no biggy

Finally, I didn't realize all those Skyline teams had retired. I knew there were a few Z teams but I didn't think the entire field of Skyline's had been replaced.

Thats the real reason I posted about no Skylines have raced under the Super GT name because it seemed to me you were under the impression Skyline was still racing.

2003 was the last JGTC season for the Skyline teams (I think).

 

[Revil]

I merged the double post and didn't mention anything. You did double post though and "Revil" here did the same double posting. Only look here, his response is so "newbie" that it is polite.
Imagine that?!

How about you lighten up "Pink"?
Much appreciate your efforts,
-GTP Staff.




English isn't your native language is it? Not laughing at you, laughing with you my friend.

I think that says...
"I play GT4 and wanted to answer the question. If you disagree, then the most enjoyable way to answer the question would be a race. My Supra will do well!"
Sounds reasonable to me.

None the less, "Revil,"
Generally speaking, the Supra puts out too much wheelspin on anything other than Racing tires.
The Supra just can't keep Sports and Normal tires under control as well as the Skyline.

Till next time,
-

👍 Thanks Kent You understand my intentions well, I became member of this site with the hope of share mi GT profits with someone else, and compete of course, I'm so tired to race against AI and myself... I was so excited with the rumor of on line GT4 and when this go down I was very sad, but the game in fact is amazing and is good to be able to talk about it with other fans.

About the Cars involved in this thread, I dont have preferences on anyone of them, but I must confess that Supra is a very balance car and his chassis, body and transmission have a great skill to manage big amounts of power without problem or undesirrable effects even beyond 800HP considering that this power is obtain using Turbo that generally make cars explosive, the Supra full tuned still seems to me a progressive car easy to control, and of course Rear traction is the best choice to asphalt tracks, i like Sky to mutch as well but is not a pure blood like Supra. See You.

 

[Leonidae]

Oh paleeease Leo, just ask a WRS driver and he would stand up hard against DE, even a D3, a D2 or D1 guy would just pwne him.


No offense, but it's true. I'm getting me ass kicked all the time of those in the WRS who've never drove a Supra and I do all the time.

in case that you have forgotten, DE is D II driver in WRS.. and Sonz is D I, and has hard time against him. so, this time, I'd say that I'm quite right. and I've stared DE's rearlights enough many times in in team competitions.

this is only my humble opinion.. and you know, how opinions are.. they're like buttholes, everybody has one.

and revil.. no need to get all hot and bothered. you might have a chance, if your skills are exceptional. until you prove your words, I'll stand behind my words.

 

[xjr-9]

Sorry if anyone has said this, but I would just like to add that the Super GT cars are limited to 345hp, as well as a minimum weight limit, which might explain the 4 cylinders.

xjr-9

 

[Kent]

in case that you have forgotten, DE is D II driver in WRS.. and Sonz is D I, and has hard time against him. so, this time, I'd say that I'm quite right. and I've stared DE's rearlights enough many times in in team competitions.

This makes me really want to face off with both of them... Can you point me in a direction where I might be able to find their Skyline/Supra challenge. I'd love to ghost the race and see where I stand.
Plus, nothing gets me more interested than running into a few WRS'ers that I don't remember from my time in the WRS.

So, could you point me in the right direction please?

Thanks.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

this is only my humble opinion.. and you know, how opinions are.. they're like buttholes, everybody has one.

Yeah OK dude 👍