Which is Faster Supra or skyline..??

[JohnBM01]

I can't believe that I prepared a perfectly fine post... and now it's gone! I'll just have to make a new one then...

The Supra/Skyline rivalry is as much of Camaro/Mustang here in America. Whichever car you go with, you have one of Japan's grandest weapons against any level of production car competition. I've always seen the Supra as the better all-around sports car. My preferences toward cars isn't so much on horsepower and torque alone. I'm more of the handling type. In this sense, I'd give the nod to the Supra. The front-engine/rear-wheel drive Supra has been one of my personal favorite cars to get in a GT game. I like the Supra so much that I'd recommend the racing variants as well.

On the other hand, you have the "love it or hate it" Nissan Skyline. The Skyline has been around for something over 50 years. It has remained an all-business, no crap car over the years. Whatever Skyline you go with, you have a car capable of great things in any circuit-racing discipline. Unrestricted, I've heard of numbers of about 400+ horsepower. So it is obviously a pretty capable machine... just have to let them loose. The argument I'm not going to use in this sense is "there are too many Skylines. How can you NOT find one you like?". I've seen the Skyline more as a power machine. There's two ways to share your love of this car- the front-engine/rear-wheel drive model (not real popular), and then the front-engine/four-wheel drive model. This is perhaps the most popular Japanese sports car in Japan with all sorts of variations and models to choose from.

If I had to choose, I'd pick the Supra for its all-around racing prowess. If you're asking about speed, I'd take the Skyline. This is a tough call to make, but I'd pick the Supra because both the production and racing variants are capable of almost anything. Pick the Supra and stick it to the Skyline. Pick the Skyline and stick it to the Supra. It's a tough call to make, so whichever you think is better is up to you. I'd take the Supra.

 

[Master_Yoda]

Its fairly clear that Supra would out handle skyline, in certain tracks such as Tsukuba, but remember that both cars would have to be 1997. This way there wont be as much hassle, as its very evident that the R34 would out do a 97 supra.
I've tested both 97 model cars on Tsukuba, with oil and tyre change to Road.
Both have pros and cons, so its really to the person who judge the car, yeah you.
Personally i'm a GTR man in heart, but never really been in a Supra RZ, i cant say if supra is really better.


I remember in GT2, they had the Famous TRD3000 supra, loved it to death.

1999 works better then 97, Supra doesn't out handle the Skyline, thanks to Skylines advance 4WD system.

 

[Jay]

The Supra/Skyline rivalry is as much of Camaro/Mustang here in America. .

. Pick the Skyline and stick it to the Supra. It's a tough call to make, so whichever you think is better is up to you.

Skyline and Supra owners don't have rivalry's like Camaro and Mustang owners, I have Supra, Silvia, Skyline, Soarer (list goes on) owning friends and people I see from time to time and there is no rivalry between any of them or myself.

Camaro/Mustang rivalry is much more like Commodore/Falcon Rivalry over here

 

[LILAL]

Supra rz is the car for me. i just set a very fast lap (for me) around the nurburgring. 6'30.025.
my skyline time is only a 7'45.625 which is pretty poor i think but i cant remember if that was before it was tuned or not.
so i tried to do a lap yesterday but the skyline was soo hard to handle becasue it kept understeering so i spent a lot of the time going too slow or on the grass.

 

[whatupdet]

Supra rz is the car for me. i just set a very fast lap (for me) around the nurburgring. 6'30.025.
my skyline time is only a 7'45.625 which is pretty poor i think but i cant remember if that was before it was tuned or not.
so i tried to do a lap yesterday but the skyline was soo hard to handle becasue it kept understeering so i spent a lot of the time going too slow or on the grass.

You definitely have the RZ tuned and stock Skyline to have times like those. They should be fairly close together, at least not THAT far apart. Check it out and report back because it's unfair to have one tuned to the max and the other stock and list extreme times.

 

[Jay]

Yes they are close together in lap times, after my Nurburgring test of both they were less than 1 second apart.

7'45 is untuned.

6'30 is heavy tuned.

Like whatupdet said unfair comparison.

 

[Mad Murphy NZ]

There's two ways to share your love of this car- the front-engine/rear-wheel drive model (not real popular), and then the front-engine/four-wheel drive model. This is perhaps the most popular Japanese sports car in Japan with all sorts of variations and models to choose from

Um, nearly every skyline is RWD. GTR's and GTS4's make up a very percentage of Skylines that were produced.

 

[LILAL]

ok i did check and the skyline was tuned
i have got to go and play tennis now so when i get back i will tune my skyline and then have a go. But still the supra will be hard to beat i think

can you guys post some times from the ring in either or both cars so i can see how i am getting on please???

 

[Dave A]

Okay with a tuned Skyline R34 GT-R I can get well under 7 mins round the ring, I can get my tuned GT-R to run faster laps than my tuned Supra RZ, and whats more when I get time to do some tests I will do, I'll post my finding here, and I can provide proof of the lap times as well. I must say though, for you to get 6'30 from your Supra you must have been canning it, that's a hell of a lap. Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't see how you can be that good round the ring then, and yet suddenly so crap round it in the GT-R. The Supra time is good, very good, the GT-R time is crap, very crap .

 

[jammyozzy]

I think the Skyline is generally faster around a track, simply because its so easy to drive. The R34 GT-R has probably the best default rear differential settings of any ccar in the game. The diff locks just when you want it to, without fail.

 

[identti]

Someone should actually do an article on this. Do a selection of tests to find out which is faster, with both cars having very similar power and states of tune. You could do quickest laps around a road like circuit say deep forest, the one around the ring and one around a racing track like midfield or tskuba. Then do 0-60, 0-100 etc... at the drag strip, and a top speed test using only Auto tranny settings at the test track. I may do this myself. Also you could do a time at tskuba wet to see which copes best in trick situations. Then the car with the most wins is the winner.

 

[LILAL]

Okay with a tuned Skyline R34 GT-R I can get well under 7 mins round the ring, I can get my tuned GT-R to run faster laps than my tuned Supra RZ, and whats more when I get time to do some tests I will do, I'll post my finding here, and I can provide proof of the lap times as well. I must say though, for you to get 6'30 from your Supra you must have been canning it, that's a hell of a lap. Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't see how you can be that good round the ring then, and yet suddenly so crap round it in the GT-R. The Supra time is good, very good, the GT-R time is crap, very crap .

your just going to have to take my word for the supra time. unless i can get a decent photo with a digital camera.

 

[Dave A]

The Supra time is possible, I not questioning if you did that, what had me wondering was just the contrast between the very good Supra lap and the not much faster than a stock time GT-R lap.

 

[LILAL]

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i dont no if that will work becasue i didnt have much time and i didnt really know what i was doing.

 

[identti]

I've begun to conduct the test i have mentioned earlier with fully tuned versions of both cars. The only thing i changed was not fully weight reduce the supra so the cars had near identical PWR ratings.

I have completed the acceleration and top speed tests. The supra managed to beat the skylines top speed (no NOS). In the acceleration the supra was absoloutely trounced by the skyline. It had no grip at all, and because the turbo is so large, it just spools up and BAM your in a cloud of rubber. If I used a much smaller turbo there's no doubt it would have been faster, but then that's not the point, the cars are supposed to be of equal power.

 

[eastley]

Skyline vs. Supra​

The Stats

Nissan Skyline GT-R ‘97

Year: 1997
Type: 4WD
Power: 732BHP/6800rpm
Torque: 566.4ft.lb/4400

Toyota Supra RZ ‘97

Year: 1997
Type: FR
Power: 832BHP/5600rpm
Torque: 773.49ft.lb/3600

The Tests

0-400M
0-1000M
High Speed
Quickest Lap around trial Mountain

The Settings

• Brought all Modifications, with the exception of nitro.
• Racing/Medium tires on.
• Brought wing, and put down force to max on both back and front.
• Gear Auto Setting on 15.
• Automatic gearing to eliminate any user faults.

The Process

The tests were done in this order with any oil changes in between

0-400M: Done 3 times, recorded fastest.
0-1000M: Done 3 times, recorded fatest.
High Speed: Done 1 lap, recorded top speed
Quickest Lap around trial Mountain: 5 Laps, fastest one recorded.

The Results

Nissan Skyline GT-R '97

0-400: 0’09.961
1000m: 0’18.005
Top Speed: 317.95km/h
Trial Mountain Lap: 1’21.853

Toyota Supra RZ ‘97

0-400m: 0’11.212
1000m: 0’18.867
Top Speed: 336.65km/h
Trial Mountain Lap: 1’19.515

Conclusion

With both cars winning 2 tests each it was a rather even field, but some points to make out are that the Supra is slower over the first 400m by 1.251 seconds but over the last 600 metres on the 1000m test it is 0.389 of a second faster. With more BHP the Supra is obviously going to win the highest speed between the 2. Now onto out lap at trial mountain, the Supra seemed alot more agile around the track but at the same time seemed alot more wreckless than the Skyline. The Skyline is a very stable, steady car, but tends to understeer alot compared to the Supra.

So with all in consideration the only time I would use a Skyline over a Supra is in staright line races, 1000m or less.

Eastley's Winner: Toyota Supra RZ '97

 

[Ermac26]

Skyline...depending on the model, year, tires, track and tuning specs...hands down

 

[eastley]

The latest Supra in the game is the 97 model, so I compared the 97 models of the Supra and Skyline, no use comparing newer models of Skyline against a 97 Supra.

 

[identti]

I did a very similar test to you eastley, although I did compare a newer skyline. If it's skyline vs. Supra, then I entered the best from both crowds, otherwise you could always say that the skyline was compromised. I've done some different tests though. See the tests very soon.

 

[Leonidae]

I wonder if he used 6.2 milers.. they would had performed better, since there's less engine/chassis wear..

 

[Master_Yoda]

The latest Supra in the game is the 97 model, so I compared the 97 models of the Supra and Skyline, no use comparing newer models of Skyline against a 97 Supra.

Theres a 98' model...

 

[identti]

Also if you are comparing FASTEST cars why don't you pit the fastest nissan produced road going skyline against the fastest supra, then you would find out which is actually the fastest.

 

[Leonidae]

well.. in top speed, Supra wins.. stock 6.2 mile Supra reaches 180mph after oil change. Skyline reaches 172mph or so. but in handling, Skyline wins. many might think that it's clumsy because of AWD, but it's more nimble than any other AWD car that has such long wheelbase as GT-R has.

 

[identti]

Yep your right there, Supra goes 253mph and the Skyline 232mph when fully tuned. Accelerating the skyline absoulutely thrashes the supra when both are fully tuned, as the supra is a complete ***** to get off the line. Round a track the Skyline is marginally faster.

 

[a112]

My friend and i were testing JGTC Supras against,same class Nissan cars,the Skylines was defeated,only car faster than supra was the LM edition Z.That normaly was in arcade mode,on test course with MT and best tires!

 

[eastley]

Also if you are comparing FASTEST cars why don't you pit the fastest nissan produced road going skyline against the fastest supra, then you would find out which is actually the fastest.

When you test cars I always test the same year. And its a standard Supra why test it against a Road Going Skyline or any other special released Skyline. I test the same year against year and same type as in standard or special series etc..

 

[eastley]

Theres a 98' model...

Not in GT4..

 

[Dave A]

If you want to fond out simply which is the best, thet the best against the best. It's then down to you if you want to split that into years, but it won't answer the simple form of the question, which is best, Supra or Skyline.

 

[a112]

About same year,if you test R33 with Supra,it is obvious,i personally think R33 is a peace of junk comapred to 32 and 34.I like the Supra more than GTR,mostly beacuse FR,and drifting,but personally i dont use supra for drifting,it is heavy.Both cars are heavy and in compare with stock s2000 and NSX or NSX-R both cars are slower.And one more thing,i hope you didnt post this subject beacuse of fnf and 2f2f,lol just kidding!

 

[flamve]

After reading almost the entire thread, only a few of the arguments were supported by numbers and reproducible facts. Now I have have been testing my tuned supra against my friends tuned skyline, and there has yet to be a track where he has beat my lap time.

Now we are both quite good at racing, I reached 100% in 3 months after launch, also I have collected every car. I use the dual shock 2, and he uses his driving force pro.

I have made my decision, That supra when tuned in GT4 is the superior car to the skyline. Plus, it looks a hell of a lot cooler than that square piece of crap body the skyline calls style.

Also, If he reads this, my blue supra is faster, you're crappy silver skyline is already broken. hahahahaha ha.