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Oohh.. Wings. Throwback to the Tim Burton car perhaps? Same sort of shape, long front end.
Who is the next Batman?
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I was just about to post that. It will be interesting to see how much of that suit is Ben Affleck and how much is padding. He would have had to put on an insane amount of muscle to look that big. It is possible for sure. Christian bale put on 100 lbs for his role in batman. No joke at all. But this looks a lot more suit than it does Ben. 
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I Googled it and I don't know why but bald Jesse Eisenberg looks hilarious.
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I think it's more in the vain of Miller's Returns. Big bat symbol, quite a bit of muscle mass. I like it.
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Both costume and car certainly look like they're from the comics.
I think the thing the producers really need to do is strike the right balance between the outlandishness of the comics and the realism of the Nolan iteration.
The comics have villains like Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze because comics are a still visual medium, and the writers and pencillers need a distinct image to work with. But that doesn't really translate into film. Schumacher mangled it, of course, but I don't think Nolan could have done much to begin with.
Batfleck looks like he's an evolution of Batbale, with some experience dealing with the less-realistic villains. I could see him in the Tim Burton version of Gotham. But I'm not sure I trust Snyder to handle the material properly. The final fight in MAN OF STEEL did so much damage that hundreds of thousands of people were almost certainly killed, which is something Superman never would have allowed to happen. I shudder to think of how he might handle Batman.
I think the thing the producers really need to do is strike the right balance between the outlandishness of the comics and the realism of the Nolan iteration.
The comics have villains like Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze because comics are a still visual medium, and the writers and pencillers need a distinct image to work with. But that doesn't really translate into film. Schumacher mangled it, of course, but I don't think Nolan could have done much to begin with.
Batfleck looks like he's an evolution of Batbale, with some experience dealing with the less-realistic villains. I could see him in the Tim Burton version of Gotham. But I'm not sure I trust Snyder to handle the material properly. The final fight in MAN OF STEEL did so much damage that hundreds of thousands of people were almost certainly killed, which is something Superman never would have allowed to happen. I shudder to think of how he might handle Batman.
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But Snyder did follow source material. There is a reason why Batman doesn't put up with League activity in Gotham City itself, and that reason is property values. By intentionally not allowing League activity, the powered up supervillians like Metallo and Darkseid doesn't think Gotham is a threat and leaves it alone in favor of the, arguably, bigger target Metropolis, which has the big blue boy scout as its protector.
Sure, Batman gets his own superpowered problems of his own like Clayface and Killer Croc, but in terms of 1 to 1 strength, they don't go and cause the wonton city wide destruction that Superman's villains are known to cause. I'll give you that Gotham is generally a bad place to live, but when you go and compare it to a place where city wide destruction can happen at a moment's notice, what city appraiser wouldn't say that Gotham is ultimately a good place to live given the conduct of its heroes?
Sure, Batman gets his own superpowered problems of his own like Clayface and Killer Croc, but in terms of 1 to 1 strength, they don't go and cause the wonton city wide destruction that Superman's villains are known to cause. I'll give you that Gotham is generally a bad place to live, but when you go and compare it to a place where city wide destruction can happen at a moment's notice, what city appraiser wouldn't say that Gotham is ultimately a good place to live given the conduct of its heroes?
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Sure, he followed the source material - but he still mangled it. Superman never would have engaged an enemy, even one as powerful as Zod, in a way that put innocent people in danger, much less cause such widespread death and destruction as was shown in the film. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the character, which is a problem when dealing with someone as complex as Batman. Even the relationship between Batman and Superman is complex; certainly too complex for the guy who made SUCKER PUNCH.
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Aren't you being a bit over the top here? We only know two things about Batffleck, one is that it's Ben Affleck, the only good part about the Daredevil movie, and two is the Batmobile and a mock up of the suit. If we are completely honest with each other, can't we just say that he drew from the correct source material while respecting Nolan's legacy on the character? (The Dark Knight Returns) Is that all what we really want out of Snyder now that he was given the whole kitten caboodle?
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Watch SUCKER PUNCH - which Snyder presented as an alternative to INCEPTION - and ask me that question again.
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though I agree with this one movie shouldn't nor doesn't tell the complete story of a director. Watchmen is completely different than Sucker Punch as far as delivery went and other than the obvious similar camera work and effects I'd think a different person directed it.
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Exactly my point. Snyder's body of work in regards to what we traditionally perceive as comic book movies is limited to Watchmen, Man of Steel and 300. And while the camera work is relatively the same across the three films, Snyder's method of storytelling is vastly different from film to film, and each follows the source material, something that is rare among directors today.
I did see Sucker Punch for the record, and I don't see it that way at all. Is it a bad film, I'd say so, but when you have a director who's body of work is adapting comic books into films, you have to address it as a forgivable pass.
I did see Sucker Punch for the record, and I don't see it that way at all. Is it a bad film, I'd say so, but when you have a director who's body of work is adapting comic books into films, you have to address it as a forgivable pass.
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Well this is not bad
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If you told me that was a promotional photo for 300, I wouldn't have been any the wiser.
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The big budget Xena movie is finally a reality? : O
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Watch it before the copyright cops take it down...
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I would have never expected Gal Gadot from the Fast And Furious series to be Wonder woman.
I already had very low expectations for this Batman movie but this is just a recipe for utter and complete disaster. They are going to need some sort of miracle to make this movie a success. Who knows, maybe they will surprise us and this is a good movie.
Can someone please explain the concept of this movie to me? Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice. How is it even possible for Batman to compete with Superman? I never read the comics and I have only seen the movies but I cant comprehend this at all. From what I have seen in the movies Batman would have absolutely no chance at all against Superman.
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It's more of an ideological conflict than anything else. Although they fundamentally want the same thing, Batman and Superman differ completely in how they intend to go about it, which causes quite a bit of friction between them, spilling over into open conflict from time to time. It came up in the "Hush" storyline, with Superman entrusting Batman with a kryptonite ring because he knew that if he was ever compromised (in this case, by Poison Ivy), Batman would be the only person willing to doubt his intentions and physically fight him. Batman's physical abilities might be exaggerated to make him a match for Superman, but it's essentially more to do with philosophy and ideology than raw strength.
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A lot of this movie is based on 'The Dark Knight Returns' by Frank Miller, much like The Dark Knight Rises, which is something to consider.
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And it's directed by Zack Snyder, who had Superman kill hundreds of thousands of people in a total subversion of the character during the finale of MAN OF STEEL. Between that and the Wonder Woman picture, it tells you just what kind of trainwreck this is going to be.
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Just seems so far fetched its ridiculous. You have Superman that can fly anywhere around the world in a split second, lasers in his eyes for weapons with superhuman strength and basically indestructible. Then you have a regular guy that depends on modern technology that is even weaker than Iron Man. Just cant wrap my brain around this at all. Just sounds like a terrible concept.
On a side note I LOVED Man of Steel. I put that right at the top as one of the best superhero action movies I have ever seen. Right up there with Avengers. And that's coming from someone that never liked Superman at all. I have also never read a comic book ever in my life. While that creates some confusion in the movies, it also helps me enjoy them a lot more than most without being picky about how they are not accurate to the comics.
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Perhaps, but it's worth bearing in mind that the Batman films have actively avoided some of his most powerful foes. The Burton era was limited by the technological constraints of the time. The Schumacher era was limited by a complete lack of understanding of the source material (the Riddler, for instance, is regarded as a joke among the Gotham criminal fraternity). And Nolan limited himself by the desire to keep things grounded in reality. The likes of Killer Croc, Bane, the Scare-Beast and a few others are immensely powerful on a physical level.
You're right about one thing, though: Superman is boring. So long as there is a sunrise, he's pretty much unstoppable. That said, the Batman comics tend to take a much more balanced approach - for every obvious strength an opponent has, he or she also has some kind of weakness. So when Superman shows up and the two have a confrontation, he tends to be a lot more balanced, choosing to hold himself back for fear that he'll lose touch with his humanity - a weakness that Batman is more than willing to take advantage of.
But yes, it does sound horrible. The whole thing comes across as a knee-jerk reaction to Marvel's Cinematic Universe, which has been thoroughly planned out across multiple franchises.
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You don't need to be picky, but much of your misunderstanding is based on not reading the comic books or at least watching the TV shows at some point. These would help you understand immensely how the DC universe works. Batman isn't just a regular guy first off, and while he does have various technology it's his mind and the vast amount of knowledge he has and tactical ability that makes him important to DC. He is basically one of the smartest being in their universe and that is why he's able to take on the likes of many super powered beings though a mere peak conditioned human.
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Also, he has the best super-power of all time: money.
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New Plot Details?
Source: Bad 🤬 Digest [HT: IGN]
Source: Bad 🤬 Digest [HT: IGN]
The first picture of Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne has hit the web; taken on location in Detroit it's a shot of Wayne looking at wreckage in front of a Wayne Financial building in Metropolis. The aftermath of Superman's rampage in Man of Steel?
Ben Affleck(Center)
What's interesting is that Affleck's version of older Wayne has only a touch of grey at his temples. I honestly expected more, based on reports I've received about where Batman is when Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice* opens.
What follows is information about Batman at the beginning of the movie. Some may consider this a spoiler, although I don't see how. You've been warned.
My sources indicate that when BvS opens Batman has existed for close to thirty years, which would place Wayne in his 50s (which is why I expected more grey in Affleck's hair). In this version Batman is still an urban legend, a creature of the night, and no one has ever taken his picture. But he's had plenty of adventures, and the Batcave includes a memorial centered around a tattered Robin costume.
I've heard more, but I'm wary of crossing the line into spoilers. I do quite like this little tidbit, though, because it gives us a sense of a very different Batman than we've ever seen in the movies. This sets Affleck's version apart from Bale and the others easily - he's a quieter operator, not involved in blockbuster battles but in all sorts of badass vigilantism.
By the way, my sources tell me that Wonder Woman has also been in operation for some time before Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice* begins, and her activities have been just as secretive as Batman's. Her activities were badass as well... but in a very different, and unexpected, way.
Ben Affleck(Center)
What's interesting is that Affleck's version of older Wayne has only a touch of grey at his temples. I honestly expected more, based on reports I've received about where Batman is when Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice* opens.
What follows is information about Batman at the beginning of the movie. Some may consider this a spoiler, although I don't see how. You've been warned.
My sources indicate that when BvS opens Batman has existed for close to thirty years, which would place Wayne in his 50s (which is why I expected more grey in Affleck's hair). In this version Batman is still an urban legend, a creature of the night, and no one has ever taken his picture. But he's had plenty of adventures, and the Batcave includes a memorial centered around a tattered Robin costume.
I've heard more, but I'm wary of crossing the line into spoilers. I do quite like this little tidbit, though, because it gives us a sense of a very different Batman than we've ever seen in the movies. This sets Affleck's version apart from Bale and the others easily - he's a quieter operator, not involved in blockbuster battles but in all sorts of badass vigilantism.
By the way, my sources tell me that Wonder Woman has also been in operation for some time before Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice* begins, and her activities have been just as secretive as Batman's. Her activities were badass as well... but in a very different, and unexpected, way.
