Will GT7 Get Left behind when Forza Motorsports 8 hits the Market?

[AutumnalGlow]

All of which will become rather moot when there’s a PS5 (Pro) only GT.

I'd love to know where people get the idea there will be a PS5 Pro, and if there is, that there will be exclusive titles for it. There were no mid-gen upgrade exclusives last time, because neither company wanted them. There won't be this time. And with GT's development time, what makes you think it wouldn't take until the PS6?

 

[Nathan88]

I'd love to know where people get the idea there will be a PS5 Pro, and if there is, that there will be exclusive titles for it. There were no mid-gen upgrade exclusives last time, because neither company wanted them. There won't be this time. And with GT's development time, what makes you think it wouldn't take until the PS6?

No one’s saying there will be PS5 Pro exclusive titles. The next GT will be built for the PS5 with PS5 Pro enhancements. PS6 is only due in 2028.

While PS4 Pro was built to deliver a better 4K image. PS5 Pro is about framerates and a big jump in RT performance. Current machines can’t deliver high quality in-game RT without big compromises to resolution & framerate.

 

[UKMikey]

Sounds interesting if true.

I guess they have to do something to compete with Forza since as a PS exclusive there's no other hardware upgrade path for GT players than to replace their console.

 

[RacinLei]

Sounds interesting if true.

I guess they have to do something to compete with Forza since as a PS exclusive there's no other hardware upgrade path for GT players than to replace their console.

You are funny.
The series x is also limited in RT then the ps5. Microsoft showcase for Forza shows it. Ingame RT is not gameplay RT and mirror like RT in Forza is not the same like diffuse RT reflection used in GT. Only the PC version get maybe gameplay RT or a modded version of it.

My opinion on the GT Forza discusion.
Both, Sony and Microsoft has make a bad decision.
Sony with forcing PD to release GT on both generation and slow down the improvement for next gen feature and content on ps5.
And Microsoft with the series S and not being able to unleashe the full potential of the series X so Series S owners dont get to upset.
But there is a catch to it.
Sony can easy say its time to drop the ps4 support and move on. Microsoft cant and shouldnt say we drop the series S then the effect will hit Microsoft way harder and the next wave of team green drop the xbox and play on pc or switch to team blue.

 

[UKMikey]

You are funny.
The series x is also limited in RT then the ps5. Microsoft showcase for Forza shows it. Ingame RT is not gameplay RT and mirror like RT in Forza is not the same like diffuse RT reflection used in GT. Only the PC version get maybe gameplay RT or a modded version of it.

How does that change any of what I said? The fact remains that Forza is capable of running on hardware that can match anything PS5 Pro can theoretically put out, because it's not an exclusive.

As for your crazy "teams" argument... Many Xbox owners are also gaming PC owners as well. Some of them are even on "team blue". It's not about hardware any more, if your game of choice plays on multiple platforms.

 

[RacinLei]

How does that change any of what I said?

Because you think Sony needs a diffrent hardware to compete with forza and thats not true. Exept you compare the pc version against the ps5.

 

[UKMikey]

Because you think Sony needs a diffrent hardware to compete with forza and thats not true.

I wasn't the one who brought up different hardware.

Exept you compare the pc version against the ps5.

I see. We're only allowed to compare base Xbox hardware against a possible Sony console refresh, because anything else would make Sony look bad. Whatever works for you.

 

[RacinLei]

I see. We're only allowed to compare base Xbox hardware against a possible Sony console refresh, because that would make Sony look bad. Whatever works for you.

Hahaaa wher did i say that?
Current state ps5 to series X
But interpret how you like it and works for YOU 🤣

Haha change youre comments so much that it makes no sense.
Poor greene 🤣

 

[UKMikey]

Hahaaa wher did i say that?
Current state ps5 to series X
But interpret how you like it and works for YOU 🤣

Well, you seemed to get upset when I suggested Forza runs on PCs as well. Are we somehow supposed to exclude them from discussion for some reason? I thought this was about whether Forza and GT are comparable, not an Xbox vs PS thread, but I guess I was mistaken. 🤷‍♂️

 

[UKMikey]

Haha change youre comments so much that it makes no sense.
Poor greene 🤣

I think you need to update your reading comprehension skills, but perhaps I'm onto something if you feel you have to break out the personal comments.

 

[RacinLei]

Well, you seemed to get upset when I suggested Forza runs on PCs as well. Are we somehow supposed to exclude them from discussion for some reason? I thought this was about whether Forza and GT are comparable, not an Xbox vs PS thread, but I guess I was mistaken. 🤷‍♂️

Oh no im not upset. Every game runs better on pc. But comparing forza on pc and GT on ps5 is meaningless. Then if i had a pc i wouldnt play both of them.

 

[UKMikey]

Oh no im not upset. Every game runs better on pc. But comparing forza on pc and GT on ps5 is meaningless. Then if i had a pc i wouldnt play both of them.

I'm not. I'm comparing raytracing on both games on the best hardware available to play them. The only reason PS5 Pro got mentioned is because the discussion was about GT being left behind technologically. It isn't a race if one of the runners is hobbled.

 

[RacinLei]

I'm not. I'm comparing raytracing on both games on the best hardware available to play them. The only reason PS5 Pro got mentioned is because the discussion was about GT being left behind technologically. It isn't a race if one of the runners is hobbled.

That makes it meaningless to me because you cant compare it. Yes Forza will look better in terms of raytracing on pc but that counts for all games.

 

[UKMikey]

That makes it meaningless to me because you cant compare it. Yes Forza will look better in terms of raytracing on pc but that counts for all games.

OK, if it's meaningless to you then I suppose it doesn't matter. Looking forward to the inevitable Digital Foundry comparisons which I'm sure will be tested on ALL available platforms for each game.

 

[RacinLei]

OK, if it's meaningless to you then I suppose it doesn't matter. Looking forward to the inevitable Digital Foundry comparisons which I'm sure will be tested on ALL available platforms for each game.

You mean like the last ratchet and clank comparison where DF didnt choose the quality 40fps mode on ps5 with topnotch Rt reflection, instead they choose the rt performance mode with downsiced reflection, crowd density and resolution 🤣

 

[UKMikey]

You mean like the last ratched and clank comparison where DF didnt choose the quality 40fps mode on ps5 with topnotch Rt reflection, instead they choose the rt performance mode with downsiced reflection, crowd density and resolution 🤣

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart - all three graphics modes tried and tested

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart has launched on PlayStation 5 and not only is it a fine sequel for celebrated console fra…

www.eurogamer.net

If PS5 gets an update to a Pro version, do you think they'll compare it against Xbox Series X only, or against PC as well? I don't see why they wouldn't compare the best versions of both games, maybe you do.

 

[RacinLei]

If PS5 gets an update do you think they'll compare it against Xbox Series X only, or against PC as well? I don't see why they wouldn't compare the best versions of both games, maybe you do.

You say it, df didnt choose the best version of it for the comparison. The same happens with spiderman.

They show in the past all 3 version but not in that comparison video

 

[UKMikey]

You say it, df didnt choose the best version of it for the comparison. The same happens with spiderman.

I'll take your word for it. The article says they tested all three graphics modes, though.

 

[Famine]

ratched and clank

 

[RacinLei]

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Boohoo riding the tipo wave bravo…

I'll take your word for it. The article says they tested all three graphics modes, though.

Yes the artical where there tested all 3 modes of ratchet.
But in the comparison against pc they dont.


@UKMikey

The say it in the beggining
Pc quality mode, ps5 performance rt mode.
The best mode is 40fps quality mode on ps5 in terms of raytracing reflections and resolution and the better way to compare it.

 

[Famine]

Boohoo riding the tipo wave bravo…

Humour is fun. Everyone could do with a laugh from time to time and - given your recent "contributions" to multiple threads of discussion in here, wherein you've literally made stuff up - you of all people could very much do with lightening the **** up.

Try it. In the meantime I'm going to give everyone else a break.

Edit: Well, what a fun little flame-out. Have a free upgrade from a thread-ban to a site-ban.

 

[UKMikey]

Boohoo riding the tipo wave bravo…

Yes the artical where there tested all 3 modes of ratchet.
But in the comparison against pc they dont.

Were they doing a performance comparison or a prettiness comparison? If it was performance, then it'd make sense to use the performance mode as a 40fps frame rate wouldn't look great on their meter.

[EDIT] Oops... guess you didn't walk away smiling from this one.

Seems like the Acceptable Use Policy is kinda clear on this one. See ya around and congrats on taking one for your team

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[ImaRobot]

Knocking VR support is broke cope. It's the ultimate way to play a racing game . Not having VR support will some day be the equivalent of not having wheel support. Did you guys also make these weak sauce arguments about games that support wheels ? " Most us don't own a wheel so it's not important and you can't knock a game for not having wheel support " . In the same thread where people are upset a game doesn't have a cockpit for some cars, most people play their driving games in chase view ..

I always found it interesting that people can write out a whole post about things that weren't said rather than what was.

Not having VR support might eventually be a miss sometime far in the future, but I don't see it being that big an issue in the current climate specifically for racing games on console, not for a long while at least. Hell, even wheel peripherals make up such a small playerbase of the console generations. However, at least VR has the added functionality of being useful outside just racing games. Still, I feel we have a nice chunk of time to sit that over.

 

[MonoTonouS]

I always found it interesting that people can write out a whole post about things that weren't said rather than what was.

Not having VR support might eventually be a miss sometime far in the future, but I don't see it being that big an issue in the current climate specifically for racing games on console, not for a long while at least. Hell, even wheel peripherals make up such a small playerbase of the console generations. However, at least VR has the added functionality of being useful outside just racing games. Still, I feel we have a nice chunk of time to sit that over.

Why far in the future ? The technology exist today and Is fully functional and I bet there are more VR owners than wheel owners simply because Wheels are relegated to racing where as VR can be used for anything If forza lacked wheel support it would surely get heat and hate despite the fact , as you said, only a tiny amount of people actually use a wheel to play the game .


It wouldn't hamper them to include VR support for the PC version either . Not having VR support for a AAA closed circuit sim game in 2023 is bad when all of it's competition supports it and it significantly enhances the experience .

 

[jergto]

For me if I'm spending into the thousands on a driving rig, I would want full motion too. Those start at $20k.

At that point I'd rather get a track day car.

Edit: I had a rig back in the GT4 days, used a Jeep Grand Cherokee seat for comfort and with endurance races in mind. Had the Logitech G25 wheel, all mounted on a home made metal frame, even the electronics like lumber were hooked up.

 

[A Night Away]

Not having VR support for a AAA closed circuit sim game in 2023 is bad when all of it's competition supports it and it significantly enhances the experience .

Considering that Microsoft has shown nothing on VR even when it was being pushed by VR acolytes as the next big thing (which, aside from very specific use cases, racing games included, has not at all taken off) this seems incredibly silly reasoning, blaming Microsoft for something that didn't do.

 

[Beezer215]

For me if I'm spending into the thousands on a driving rig, I would want full motion too. Those start at $20k.

At that point I'd rather get a track day car.

Edit: I had a rig back in the GT4 days, used a Jeep Grand Cherokee seat for comfort and with endurance races in mind. Had the Logitech G25 wheel, all mounted on a home made metal frame, even the electronics like lumber were hooked up.

Today's your lucky day. Here's a motion rig for $6500.

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[jergto]

Today's your lucky day. Here's a motion rig for $6500.

TRACTION PLUS PLATFORM - Next Level Racing

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I want something like this:

Stage 5 Full Motion Racing Simulator

The SimXperience Stage 5 turnkey simulator is optimized for race driver training and can be easily customized to accommodate most shifter, pedal and wheel styles. It's extreme durability makes it a winner in even the harshest environments such as simulation centers and driver training...

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[Ande3200]

Why do you need such extreme rigs, their is more affordable ones, might not be the same thing but they are still going give you great experince when you drive in vr,

Taking a car around a race track cost much more its very expensive becouse you put a lot a wear to the car on track

 

[Galvston]

oh dam, the falling of racinlei