Will you buy GT6 based on this demo?

[Rrralphster]

Not going to bother downloading that demo.
I'm getting GT6 anyway

 

[ZeroTheNorth]

Getting GT6 no matter what!

 

[Audikenner]

Hi,
for me, GT6 is a must have. So i will buy it.

 

[Janduin68]

Physics have always been the most important thing for me in any racing game. In my opinion the demo physics are the best of any Gran Turismo-title so far, this is why I will definitely buy GT6.

 

[poe64]

It's just a rehash of GT5 but a bit more annoying. I want to be able to hand pick the cars I want to race against in offline mode, just like I can in GTR2 for the PC.
We need more offline race options as I don't race online anymore.

They should have made GT6 just for PS4.

 

[MeanElf]

It's not hate. I'm not trying to insult anyone, but the people tearing the game apart in my mind have more respect for GT than those who would buy GT just because. After all, the latter obviously doesn't care about quality if that's the case...

I can see where people can get the idea from, that others just blindly buy the game regardless. I don't think however it's the fans of the series that do so blindly. A blind purchase is more likely from a new player who has heard so much about all this GT stuff and wants to see what it's all about, or because his friends have it.

It is possible for fans to buy and continue to buy each game, and for that choice not be a blind one, I assure you. I am every bit as objective as the next fan of the series, yet I feel confident that PD will correct areas where they agree the fans have a valid point. After all, the rebuilding of the GT5 game engine for GT6 is an indication that they are trying to adapt the game engine to meet certain 'requirements'.

And that's what I don't understand: why people want certain things improved, but demand it so aggressively. I don't feel therefore that those who tear the game apart, necessarily have a higher regard for the games and are doing it out of love. Certainly not with the tone of negativity often expressed here.

If people had respect, they would have their say in a calm and rational manner. PD will taken note of such feedback and, as they undoubtedly have judging by the efforts in those directions, those issues will get corrected. Maybe not straight away, but the improvements if deemed worthwhile, will come.

I'm sure a number of the long-standing fans have started out with commenting that way, but I find it hard to be charitable in the face of such shrill negativity that we are seeing here lately.

My vote? I'll let you guess. Interestingly enough, the poll is turning out quite heavily in favour of GT6 - which given that the majority of this thread's comments are negative, just proves that the silent voters are the real majority and GT6 is approved of.

 

[theofilosz]

If the game was going to be like the Demo, no way I would be buying it. What's the point of catching the rabbit (or worse.....) and I need some good sounds too. There's plenty of time for these things to change, but as I said if the game is going to have the AI and sound of the demo than its definitely no.

 

[steve30x]

Will wait for GT on ps4.

It will be the same situation when a PS4 GT comes along. You will be disapointed with that too.

It's not hate. I'm not trying to insult anyone, but the people tearing the game apart in my mind have more respect for GT than those who would buy GT just because. After all, the latter obviously doesn't care about quality if that's the case.

I disagree. If somebody tears apart the game I see it as complete disrespect for the developers. I see people who tear the game apart as non game fans. If these people were fans of the game they would be less agressive with the way they find flaws with the game. I am objective and see some small flaws with the game , but if I was going to be like a lot of these people I wouldn't buy or play any game on the market because 99% of all games that are out there have their flaws and a lot of the games I've played and finished have quite big flaws.

 

[hugo24]

At this stage I believe I will wait and see the feedback and reviews in the first week, it's not a certain pre-order for me unfortunately this time.

I have to say monthly track DLC could sway me especially if they bring back the old GT tracks and unlock every car for use in arcade mode.

 

[CBH]

Yes I will get it.

 

[MXH]

Based on this demo alone - no. The much welcomed improved physics, loading times and UI are simply not enough. Gran Turismo is so much more than that. As of now, I'm still undecided. I'll make up my mind once we've seen what the final product has to offer.

 

[PIP_36]

Based on this demo, I voted no.

In my opinion only, the only thing GT6 has going for it is the fact that it has different race classes all under one roof. Im assuming that the rally cars, Formula cars (or car!), Karts, GT cars and now GT3 specifically will be in GT6.

Even though GT6 will have all of the above and maybe more, it's still (in my opinion) not as good as other games that specialise in the above classes.

If I want to drive a rally car, WRC or Dirt is the game to go to. If I want to race an F1 car (any car as well as a Ferrari!) I will go to the Codemasters series, if I want to race GT1 or GT3 cars then Shift 2 Unleashed will get booted up.

For me personally, racing games are all about the racing, I don't want to drive around a track in an eco friendly electric car, or a tank car, and I especially don't want to start at the back of a single file rolling start to 'compete' in a 'race'.

I can already hear what some of you are shouting...."you can get a less powered car" or "you can use an under powered car with the worst tyres"....even if this is done it doesn't change the fact that the AI will just let you cruise past them anyway, using a slower car just takes longer to get in the lead, it doesn't make for a better race.

If I want to take part and experience a simulation of a motor race, the GT series is the last place I'll look, there are other games that do it so much better.

I will always have a soft spot for the GT series, as it was GT5p that introduced me to the joys of sim racing in the first place, but I just can't ignore that fact that compared to it's competition it just doesn't measure up.

Things have improved, but not enough....you still need to be a Formula D (drifter) driver to get a fast time in the GTA 2013 and this is just wrong... sure the fast guys will be fast, but drifting around corners to get the best lap time is just sticking 2 fingers up to real life race craft.

I have a question to all the guys that say they will buy a future GT game always...how bad does it have to be before you refuse to buy/play/support a GT game/PD in the future? Surely if you love to sim race then you would want the best that you can afford to buy...no?

I can understand being a proper GT series fan because of past games, but I really can't understand why people become so defensive about the series, I happen to think that Shift 2 and the F1 games are the best racing games you can buy on the PS3, but if someone disagrees I just shrug my shoulders....some people here take such apersonal offence to any PD critisism that you would think that they had helped create it!

Anyway, the above is only my own amateur opinion, I know what I like and how a racing sim makes me feel when playing it...the GT games are low on my go-to list and its a shame, a GT game could and should be so much more...

I just wish even the little things were sorted...a proper grid start (I have tried but can't think of a single reason why there isn't!) race flags, or even a green light to start....the single file rolling start and the 3,2,1 GO! doesn't really immerse me into a simulated race....

Like I have said, GT was my first sim race experience and I loved it at the time, but other games stepped up and showed me what a simulated race should feel like....I want PD to step up also and give us something that makes it THE driving/racing game to have on the PS platform, but if they don't then they don't...lucky for me there are other titles out there...and more coming soon!

On it's own, GT6 will be a good driving game, but compared to other proper racing games, it just doesn't come close.

I can also understand that not all that buy/play the GT series are into the proper sim race vibe, they like to drift, cruise and drag or just collect cars and paints....that's cool but it's not for me and this is the reason for my post.

 

[WRECKU]

I'm a fan and that is enough for me to buy it. Am I expecting a spectacular game ? No but this game perfectly meets my needs and expectations. Of course others want more and am sure they will find it elsewhere.

The GT series is one of the few games that has me coming back and a large part of it is the forum. Its active and informative and leaves me with a sense of community. Really can you ask for anymore.

 

[steve30x]

I have a question to all the guys that say they will buy a future GT game always...how bad does it have to be before you refuse to buy/play/support a GT game/PD in the future? Surely if you love to sim race then you would want the best that you can afford to buy...no?

I can understand being a proper GT series fan because of past games, but I really can't understand why people become so defensive about the series, I happen to think that Shift 2 and the F1 games are the best racing games you can buy on the PS3, but if someone disagrees I just shrug my shoulders....some people here take such apersonal offence to any PD critisism that you would think that they had helped create it!

If I want to sim Race I will play Project Cars or some proper PC sim. I buy GT games because of the way it has such a diverse selection of road and race cars and the only other game of its kind is forza.

 

[TokoTurismo]

If I want to sim Race I will play Project Cars or some proper PC sim. I buy GT games because of the way it has such a diverse selection of road and race cars and the only other game of its kind is forza.

Pretty much this. I'm not into the whole heavily based sim racing games, imo I find them incredibly boring. Racing games like GT and FM are the only ones I enjoy most because they contain lots of road and race cars (I'm a car collector).

 

[PIP_36]

If I want to sim Race I will play Project Cars or some proper PC sim. I buy GT games because of the way it has such a diverse selection of road and race cars and the only other game of its kind is forza.

This makes the most sense, and I am in the process of saving up for a gaming PC with triple screens and the whole shabang for some proper sim racing with pCars, Asseto Corsa and iRacing , just a matter of waiting and preparing...

Until then I can only get my fix from my faithful PS3 and the titles that go with it.

Like WRECKU has stated, GT still holds an interest for me because of this forum, even in all the time I haven't played GT5 I still lurk about this forum and enjoy reading all kind of discussions about a variety of racing sims and associated subjects...there are some very knowledgeable people hanging around here!

 

[Pagey279]

I would have bought it regardless, I probably got 100+ hours gameplay out of GT5 (with all of it's flaws) just online.

Unless PD have totally screwed it up, (which based on the demo it doesn't look like it, in my eyes anyway) I can see myself getting just as much use out of GT6.

 

[PIP_36]

I would have bought it regardless, I probably got 100+ hours gameplay out of GT5 (with all of it's flaws) just online.

I 've had my share of fun online with GT5 and loved racing my real friends and people I've never met...but one day, after an update I think, I just could not get into a lobby, I could create my own or set my lounge up but nobody could join it, the same for my mate, he would set up his lounge but I couldn't join him either...we tried ALL the advice out there on the interwebs but no joy.

This is what pretty much killed it for me, single player was no fun and then I couldn't race my friends...I had to look elsewhere, and found (in my opinion) better games and sim racing experiences.

 

[Johnnypenso]

It is possible for fans to buy and continue to buy each game, and for that choice not be a blind one, I assure you. I am every bit as objective as the next fan of the series, yet I feel confident that PD will correct areas where they agree the fans have a valid point. After all, the rebuilding of the GT5 game engine for GT6 is an indication that they are trying to adapt the game engine to meet certain 'requirements'.

I am a dedicated GT fan, I will buy any release regardless, but my mind is definitely open to what could be and the realities of GT5 vs. everything else. Please tell me where this confidence comes from that, "PD will correct areas where they agree the fans have a valid point". AI that actually race, real car sounds and not vacuum cleaners, and realistic damage modeling but to name a few very genuine, legitimate requests of many fans have not been addressed for pretty much 15 years. These are core elements for any "simulation" and PD is literally 15 years behind the times in each area. These things have been done well by other, far, far smaller sims and games, there is just no excuse for them not being done in the GT series. I have zero confidence that PD will respond to fan feedback, other than in bits and pieces here and there.

I disagree. If somebody tears apart the game I see it as complete disrespect for the developers. I see people who tear the game apart as non game fans. If these people were fans of the game they would be less agressive with the way they find flaws with the game. I am objective and see some small flaws with the game , but if I was going to be like a lot of these people I wouldn't buy or play any game on the market because 99% of all games that are out there have their flaws and a lot of the games I've played and finished have quite big flaws.

Because all games have flaws is not a logical reason for failing to point it out, and in an aggressive manner. The more passionate someone is about something, in a positive way, the more passionate they will be about the downside of something as well. I think in reality it's the more casual fans that take the polite approach. I'd ask you, as I mentioned above, do you see the terrible AI and horrible, 1st gen sounds as "small flaws"? Are not your computer opponents and the sound of your car core elements to any game about racing and driving?

 

[NCRthree]

I was 100% in favor of buying GT6 prior to the demo. The demo has me very concerned.

1.The cockpit frame rate is very bad in my eyes. The jumpiness really bothers my concentration. Going back to boring bumper cam is a big step backwards after GT5's steady frames. That's nearly unacceptable to me.

2. AI is no better in the Demo. Career would be still be lame with that bunch of Sunday drivers on course.

3. On a positive note and it's a big one-physics are much improved so far. Main reason to upgrade. I've really enjoyed the feel of the Z cars.

4. I like online racing so I'll upgrade for that too. Although if cockpit looks like the Demo offline who knows how bad it'll be online. BIG CONCERN. Have PD pushed the PS3 too far?

I've had all the other GT's so I'll buy it. $60 isn't that much. On PS3, what other choices are there for a sim like game with street cars anyway?

 

[PepeMickey]

If I want to drive a rally car, WRC or Dirt is the game to go to. If I want to race an F1 car (any car as well as a Ferrari!) I will go to the Codemasters series, if I want to race GT1 or GT3 cars then Shift 2 Unleashed will get booted up.

Pretty much this, I keep saying this but I get the same defensive responses. My PS3 was a great racing platform, I played all of those games and I still do but once I got my XB360 with FM4, GT5 died for me, I just couldn't play a very similar yet much more inferior product.

On my PS3 I still have my F1 games that I love and Shift 2 that even if I don't play it that often anymore, it always gives me chills, the gameplay is like Forza but on steroids, you really feel the power of the cars in Shift 2. Dirt 3 is another masterpiece, I got it a few months ago and I was blown away, the sounds there are top of the top class and some of the things that I thought I would hate like Gymkhana or the X games were a lot of FUN in the end (something GT is lacking nowadays)

 

[PIP_36]

On my PS3 I still have my F1 games that I love and Shift 2 that even if I don't play it that often anymore, it always gives me chills, the gameplay is like Forza but on steroids, you really feel the power of the cars in Shift 2.

Shift 2 (while it has it's own flaws, blurring at speed, having to tune all aspects of the cars to get a decent ride) is by far the most exciting and immersive racing I've experienced so far!

The sound....feels like you are in control of a wild snarling beast of a race car. All the little things....rubber and dirt flying up from the car in front and hitting the windscreen, my G27 steering wheel jerking as I change up a gear...the wing mirrors and rear view mirror vibrating as you rev up the engine while waiting on the grid or going over the curbs...I just love that game!!

 

[gtracedriver1]

This is not really a demo. It is a beta version of the game which has no release date, not the demo like you see on PS store for games releasing in few weeks or something. Anyways even on this beta version of game, physics, graphics improvement and menu system is also good apart from horrible red color.

 

[shawtyoner]

Absolutely I will buy GT6, no reason for me not to. I try and support PD as well as T10 as much as I can. 👍

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Shift 2 (while it has it's own flaws, blurring at speed, having to tune all aspects of the cars to get a decent ride) is by far the most exciting and immersive racing I've experienced so far!

Shift 2

If that were the only racing game out there I would just have to stop racing. Give me GT or Forza any day over that mess. By far the worst FFB and feel of any game I have played to date. Even Shift 1 which I also did not like was better.

 

[MeanElf]

...Please tell me where this confidence comes from that, "PD will correct areas where they agree the fans have a valid point". AI that actually race, real car sounds and not vacuum cleaners, and realistic damage modeling but to name a few very genuine, legitimate requests of many fans have not been addressed for pretty much 15 years...

Those were questions you asked me in another thread, where I have replied, so no point in me going back over that ground here.

My confidence? It comes from the fact that PD have changed their game each time. The key point though is: "...where they agree the fans have a valid point." I think this is the sticking point for quite a few people, as they feel that PD should care about a particular thing, often to the exclusion of other, more important matters. They then get all shirty when PD ignores whatever it was those particular players wanted.

I hate to come back to it, but it's PD's game, their rules and that should not be a surprise to anyone except a new player. Despite having said that, they still do make changes to commonly mooted areas...just maybe not enough for your tastes. That doesn't mean these "...have not been addressed for pretty much 15 years..."

I do understand all of the issues mentioned, honestly but at the same time I try to see it in a balanced way and not so black and white.

 

[diegorborges]

I would have bought it regardless, I probably got 100+ hours gameplay out of GT5 (with all of it's flaws) just online.

Unless PD have totally screwed it up, (which based on the demo it doesn't look like it, in my eyes anyway) I can see myself getting just as much use out of GT6.

Here, a good and clear opinion about it. 👍

It'll not be perfect but PD will not totally screw it up, and yes I bet it'll give us the same lots of hours of fun online. If they do it right, offline too.

Some people are just mad. The amount of stuff and fun we get for 60 dollars. Even less for those that buy it later. C'mon.

 

[DM Rouche]

It may not be totally different but its improved enough for me to buy it. The PS4 edition will be spectacular though hopefully!!

 

[PIP_36]

Shift 2

If that were the only racing game out there I would just have to stop racing. Give me GT or Forza any day over that mess. By far the worst FFB and feel of any game I have played to date. Even Shift 1 which I also did not like was better.

I have to respectfully disagree!

I have found the FFB in S2 to be better than GT5, every single time I hit the curb or grass I can feel it through the steering wheel, same with loss of traction and wheel spin...as I already mentioned too, I can even feel the change in transmission through the wheel.

GT5 however, even with FFB set to maximum, I can't feel every curb...sometimes it registers and sometimes it doesn't, sometimes I even found myself running the curb on purpose just to make sure my wheel is working properly. When hitting the grass in GT5 there is barely a change in feel, or a loss of speed!

 

[Devedander]

Not based on the demo, but if the game has load times in line with the demo and some new content then I would consider buying, preferablly if it goes on sale for $10-20 under retail quickly.

If it refreshes and or improves the online experience, I will probalby buy just becuase that is a good value.

Otherwise no... too close to what I have already bought (twice with GT5 and XL).