::::: World Super GT Championship - [Thread 5 Closed] :::::

[Denilson]

No track tvice if you ask me. Besides, I LOVE monaco!! 👍

 

[KamyKaze1098]

You have Tsukuba too.

I had a race with GT 500 ther and it was a blast.

 

[KamyKaze1098]

Laguna Seca Division 2 Race Report (as promised)


The field warming up their tires in the formation lap.

Getting readty for the start. Nycrom will lead the pack through the start/finish line, followed by GTP_Paggydaggy, GTP_african_kat, GTP_Monoha, and the GT 300s Sallyk23, KamyKaze1098, ffocus2008 and BATEY.

Nycrom is fast off the line and leads the field to turn 1.

At turn 1 GTP_african_kat tries to make a move on GTP_Paggydaggy, while in the GT 300s KamyKaze1098 starts better than Sallyk23 and is first at T1, and BATEY overtakes ffocus2008.

KamyKaze1098 makes a mistake at the exit of turn 3 and Sallyk23 is quick to take advantage of the oportunity.

While being overtaken by Sallyk23, KamyKaze1098 goes wide at turn 4 and that alows BATEY to put a charge on the second GT 300 position, but KamyKaze1098 goes defensive at turn 5.

At the same time the top three guys arrive at the corckscrew for the first time, with few inches between themselves.

End of first lap. Nycrom still leads followed by GTP_Paggydaggy, GTP_african_kat and GTP_Monoha, while Sallyk23 and KamyKaze 1098 still keep in touch with the big guys.

While ffocus2008 tries to overtake BATEY at last turn.

GTP_Paggydaggy looses control in the corckscrew at lap 2.

GTP_Paggydaggy making a long return to the pits, having sustained damage hitting GTP_african_kat in the last turn.

BATEY goes wide at turn 5 but keeps third spot on GT 300 class, because ffocus2008 had to slow down to avoid contact.

But at the last turn of lap 2 ffocus2008 becomes third, after a spin from BATEY.

Things can become pretty nasty sometimes at the corckscrew. A little contact between Nycrom and GTP_african_kat. Positions remain unchanged.

Sallyk23 spuns out at lap 9 due to wierd noises in his car. KamyKaze1098 is now the GT 300 leader.

The leaders continued fighting while starting to lap the backmarckers at lap 11.

Nycrom makes a mistake in the next turn and GTP_african_kat takes the lead.

And more problems at the corckscrew. Both car needed to pit to repair damage.

GTP_monoha spuns out while being overtaken by GTP_Paggydaggy. GTP_Paggydaggy would have troubles shortly after that and lost connection.

And after 30 long laps, GTP_african_kat crosses the line as Divison 2 race winner.

If you enterd the race and think there is something missing, take a pic and send a PM to me with a short explanation, and i will edit the post to add it.

 

[Paginas1]

cool, photos, looked very close in some bits.

and yes i would love a night race, takes very good concentration. last night i did a 19 lap leman race at la sarthe in the rain (last lap it stopped lol) it took around 1:20mins was very hard lol

im all up for a long enduro

 

[monoha]

Awesome report KamyKaze! 👍 Really appreciate that you're doing it, cheers

Edit: Sarthe 1.5 hour night :-)

Edit: what is the reason why we are locked to hard tires in the races? And isnt 20 laps for this weeks race too little? And is it ok if we start a discussion about the point contra division system?

Edit: I'd really like if we kept with the same car per driver trough out the season, think it would be awesome to recognise players from their car and don't get confused- but the votes seems to go that way anyway 👍

 

[qczhao]

Delicate throttle control with a pad is not possible so...

La Sarthe at night!

1.5 hours

oh and edit:

Great report KamyKaze

 

[Andil]

La Sarthe brought some awesome racing when we did a SuperGT race there a few weeks back (Masi knows) so I think we should that that. 1.5 hours sounds good too imo, so long as people stick around for the end! Don't bail if you crash out

Also iirc we changed to hard tyres for races because it's a lot less grip and means the grid stays more close together rather than spreading out. Also means people make more mistakes, more exciting, and it means you are more able to make a pass, rather than on the soft tyres where you can just brake down the outside and still have a ton of grip to just floor it on the exit.

 

[KamyKaze1098]

Instead of La Sarthe we could do the 24H Nurburgring.

 

[Denilson]

Instead of La Sarthe we could do the 24H Nurburgring.

👍

 

[Paginas1]

Instead of La Sarthe we could do the 24H Nurburgring.

The only problem with 24h nurb is that it's not really a overtaking circuit it's built for pure endurance. So the most reliable car normally wins (real life that is)

It's a very tight track, yes it would be gd but I know there will be a few bumps that will lead to people begin wiped off the track and bang into a wall with heavy damage lol.

We should try it tho lol

 

[KamyKaze1098]

The only problem with 24h nurb is that it's not really a overtaking circuit it's built for pure endurance. So the most reliable car normally wins (real life that is)

It's a very tight track, yes it would be gd but I know there will be a few bumps that will lead to people begin wiped off the track and bang into a wall with heavy damage lol.

We should try it tho lol

I usualy do some 3 to 5 laps there, and if i'm behind someone, i'll wait for the fast sections where you can use the slipstream to pass. Being an endurance race you can be patient and do that.

And with the kind of drivers we have i think its good.

 

[nycrom1971]

I usualy do some 3 to 5 laps there, and if i'm behind someone, i'll wait for the fast sections where you can use the slipstream to pass. Being an endurance race you can be patient and do that.

And with the kind of drivers we have i think its good.

yes definetely 👍

 

[Paginas1]

Yea the ppl racing on here it should be gd, maybe we can give it ago sometime as a quick test...

Is anyone going to be on tonight gmt time for a few races.

 

[KamyKaze1098]

I will be driving my fiat 500 this afternoon.

But tonight i can host a test session at the 24h layout.

I use to do it in my lounge, so we don't have to worry about some random morons joining in.

 

[Andil]

I don't think Nurburgring is going to be enjoyable at all, the circuit is so narrow, the only places to pass, you can just stick your car in the middle of the road, and that's it, the guy behind can't get alongside you, there's not enough space. Not if you want to pass cleanly anyway. The only place you can pass regardless is down the main straight, and I don't really feel like sitting behind a slower car for 7-8mins just to wait for that. (I'm really not looking forward to the Nordschleife round, if you hadn't guessed )

Oh also, did a 1:59.336 (clean) in the Lexus just now - I think the setup work I did last night was going in completely the wrong direction - I was softening up suspension etc. and the car felt good, but just not quick enough. I went back to a stock suspension setup (i.e. stiffer) and was immediately quicker, sigh! That said, I did a 1:59.484 in my no-setup-work, 20-miles-on-the-clock RX7 on Lap 2. I still think this Lexus sucks on the soft tyres

 

[qczhao]

Im thinking of putting an Enduro as a Finale for the Championship at Suzuka.

So first race; Suzuka 100km and Finale; Suzuka 200 or 300km (Regular distance for a Super GT Race IRL)

Why don't we use Suzuka as a finale and open with a fantasy track?

Several fantasy tracks I think are good enough for GT Racing.

1. Grand Valley Speedway.
2. SSR5 (oooohhh) that would be cool.
3. Rome
4. Madrid

 

[KamyKaze1098]

Oh also, did a 1:59.336 (clean) in the Lexus just now - I think the setup work I did last night was going in completely the wrong direction - I was softening up suspension etc. and the car felt good, but just not quick enough. I went back to a stock suspension setup (i.e. stiffer) and was immediately quicker, sigh! That said, I did a 1:59.484 in my no-setup-work, 20-miles-on-the-clock RX7 on Lap 2. I still think this Lexus sucks on the soft tyres

WOW.
You sir, are a beast.
I'm testing the Lexus now and i'm at 2:01.555. I only messed with aero, gears and ride height though. It's odd that i was quicker with the front higher .
I can't wait you to post your qualify lap, so i can see what i am doing wrong. .

Why don't we use Suzuka as a finale and open with a fantasy track?

Several fantasy tracks I think are good enough for GT Racing.

1. Grand Valley Speedway.
2. SSR5 (oooohhh) that would be cool.
3. Rome
4. Madrid

Well...

I'm not a big fan of fantasy tracks, because i think this cars deserve to race in official circuits, but if people don't want Monaco i would love to race at Rome or Madrid.

I like the chalenge of a city track.

 

[Paggydaggy]

KamyKaze1098# Great report ! thought I didn't hit the wall when i spun out I hit african in the back of the last corner, so I had to drive 1 lap on damaged engine and front suspension.

Andil# I don't think you have to stay behind the gt300's for that long. If people here are driving as they do right now, there will for sure give you some space to overtake, i think the 24h would be great to try out

 

[Paginas1]

Rome would be gd not too sure about Madrid tho...

Il add u later many, I'm up for a few races tonight

 

[Andil]

WOW.
You sir, are a beast.
I'm testing the Lexus now and i'm at 2:01.555. I only messed with aero, gears and ride height though. It's odd that i was quicker with the front higher .

I am quicker with the front higher too, it reduces understeer a bit. To be honest, stock suspension settings with the ride height raised seems quick. I've messed with running a soft setting and a hard setting and both are losing me time through S1 and S4, I think a neutral setup is a lot better.

I made a massive error in Turn 5/6 which lost me 3 tenths - so I will submit a quali lap when I can do a lap without that mistake I think. Maybe a 1:58.xxx is possible but I'm not sure.

 

[Sonic-_-89b]

 

[Paginas1]

well i have a suggestion to make things more spicy during a race. Use two different types of tires hard and medium. During a race we begin with medium for exaple and when pit stop we change to hard or the opposite. if anyone doesnt change type of tire during pit stop will be penaltized or baned. its easily to check with replay i guess. what do u think guys?

So it wil be like formula 1, having to use both compounds unless rainning. It would be cool but I liked the hards on the last race as stated before it seems to bring closer racing.

We could maybe give it ago in the next pre season race.

 

[competizione]

I am quicker with the front higher too, it reduces understeer a bit. To be honest, stock suspension settings with the ride height raised seems quick. I've messed with running a soft setting and a hard setting and both are losing me time through S1 and S4, I think a neutral setup is a lot better.

I made a massive error in Turn 5/6 which lost me 3 tenths - so I will submit a quali lap when I can do a lap without that mistake I think. Maybe a 1:58.xxx is possible but I'm not sure.

have just practiced some more in the arta it suits nurburgring gpf very well i did a 1:57:942

 

[Denilson]

I also like the idea to be forced to run on both compounds. When we use the same tyre, the pitstop is pretty much the same for everyone. It would defietly add another dimention to the race. I'll vote for that!

On the other hand, I think it's quite good as it is already... So for me it doesn't really matter, but I would not say no to a rule-change regarding tyres..

Would also love Nurburgring 24h layout!

 

[Andil]

have just practiced some more in the arta it suits nurburgring gpf very well i did a 1:57:942

I just did a 1:58.157 on Lap 1 using the Arta. That's insane. I hope there isn't this much difference in pace when we're on the hard tyre :\ - What laptimes were you managing in the Lexus?

 

[Imari]

I love how everyone thinks that because you knock out those times in your first few laps with a car it means something.

You've been practising endlessly with the Lexus. The lines for all the cars are basically the same. You're going to hit a low time with another car very quickly compared to the first one you tried. That's just how learning a track works.

 

[Andil]

I've done 3-4 hours (yep) in the Lexus and managed a 1:59.3. I've done one lap in the Arta and managed a 1:58.1 - Maybe that's a quick time, yes because I've done tons of laps so can get the lines right very quickly, but what I'm suggesting by "on lap 1" is that it was also on cold tyres, and without a doubt I can improve that lap time with setup work and improvement of lines. To be 1.2 seconds clear after the first lap shows that the cars are not very close at all, at least on the soft tyre.

(I don't think we should run the soft tyre in qualifying, laptimes are a lot closer on medium or hard compounds)

 

[Imari]

I've done 3-4 hours (yep) in the Lexus and managed a 1:59.3. I've done one lap in the Arta and managed a 1:58.1 - Maybe that's a quick time, yes because I've done tons of laps so can get the lines right very quickly, but what I'm suggesting by "on lap 1" is that it was also on cold tyres, and without a doubt I can improve that lap time with setup work and improvement of lines. To be 1.2 seconds clear after the first lap shows that the cars are not very close at all, at least on the soft tyre.

(I don't think we should run the soft tyre in qualifying, laptimes are a lot closer on medium or hard compounds)

Run the ARTA?

 

[Andil]

Then everyone will run the Arta - Pretty boring.

 

[qczhao]

I don't think forcing two tyre compounds is a great idea, because there is no difference in durability, there would be no tactical advantage. It would just be x-tyre is faster than y-tyre, so try to run as many laps on the fast tyre as possible.