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M4, old trucks, Evora.
Would you rather?
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Lotus Evora SR
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New trucks and Evora
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- Dagger31198
New muscle sucks. Too much technology. They're more like sports cars now.
When I drive a muscle car, I want it to be loud, agressive... I want it to be, when you hit the pedal, it nails you in your seat. Shifting into second brings you out of it for a brief moment, only to have the power push you right back in.
The lower-end modern ones just don't do that. I rode in a 2013 GT at my... Third (I think) car show. It was absolutely the most boring muscle car I've ever been in. It just didn't have that feeling that a 69 Mach 1 does. Also doesn't look as good in my opinion.
And just to show that I'm not just against the mustang, new Camaros don't look, or sound, nearly as good as their ancestors. I can't say performance wise though, as I've never ridden in one.
They're still pretty though, just not as cool.
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Old new old and evora.
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Oh, I see why you think that now. You're a bit like Mr.Slash, old fashioned and can't stand the technology. I get it. I still have to disagree with you though. I understand the fun of the older cars, but the new ones are still awesome. They can corner better, accelerate easier, and you're right about them being like sports cars. That's the idea and I love it!
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Yeah. That's my opinion, and I'm in the huge minority, but when I think of muscle cars, I think of raw, unrefined, monster engines that move like a bat out of hell.
The modern ones are too stable and refined to be on the same level for me. Still cool cars, and I over exaggerated by saying they suck, but in comparison to their glory days, they do in my eyes.
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Oh god! XD
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I suppose. Ecxept I actually like modern supercars
. But seriously. They're good sports cars, but they're not muscle cars anymore. Some of them aren't even sports cars, like the Impala and Dart.
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The Impala never was a sports car, and the Dart wasn't (except for the Demon and Swinger).I suppose. Ecxept I actually like modern supercars
But seriously. They're good sports cars, but they're not muscle cars anymore. Some of them aren't even sports cars, like the Impala and Dart.
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Both of those were muscle. What I'm saying is, they even missed the sports car mark in today's time. Now, the Impala is a crappy family sedan (as opposed to a nice one, back in the 60's,with lots of power, awesome looks... It was a car that a family man and a guy looking for a muscle car could buy) and the Dart is a... Thing.
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(I'm posting mainly to try out the +quote feature but also to make a point)
+1 @GranTurismo916
The Impala has always been an average family sedan with a high-performance variant once in a blue moon. It's the same with the Dart. The Impala was a very normal looking car when they were new and they always have been.
It truly boggles my mind at the number of muscle car enthusiasts that just cannot understand this.
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Yeah? Classes are funny, what with the 458 being a sports car. Oh, and the Veyron, and the Hennessy Venom.
All that stuff is so amazingly subjectional, it's not even funny. The Impala is enough like a muscle car. Had muscle car parts in it. The engines were in Camaros, not sure on transmission...
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Toyota makes sports cars you know...
If the new Mustang, Camaro, or Charger can be called a muscle car, then the vintage Impala more than qualifies.
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Well, two little debates in one week, I'm on fire . Here's a new comparision. Country vs country 2.0: Supercar Style!
From America, we have the 2006 Ford GT (Assume 0 miles on it, brand new).
Specs and review here:
http://www.edmunds.com/ford/gt/2006/
From Germany: The Audi R8.
(needed a bigger pic, but...)
http://www.caranddriver.com/audi/r8
Italy brings us the new California.
(Not really a supercar by definition, but I figured it could hang in there).
http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-buying/ferrari/california/specifications/
And Japan has... The Lexus LFA.
http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/lfa/2012/features-specs.html
. Here's a new comparision. Country vs country 2.0: Supercar Style! From America, we have the 2006 Ford GT (Assume 0 miles on it, brand new).
Specs and review here:
http://www.edmunds.com/ford/gt/2006/
From Germany: The Audi R8.
(needed a bigger pic, but...)
http://www.caranddriver.com/audi/r8
Italy brings us the new California.
(Not really a supercar by definition, but I figured it could hang in there).
http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-buying/ferrari/california/specifications/
And Japan has... The Lexus LFA.
http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/lfa/2012/features-specs.html
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I can understand the Impala but I have to disagree on the Dart. It only came with 8 V8 options...
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