Wreckfest - General Discussion

[Johnnn]

30fps on a console can actually be very acceptable, as it normally has a very, very stable rate of frame-timing, often making it look still quite smooth.

If somebody has it this way, it's pretty good. I always use more than 60 before I came to consoles 15 years ago. Then I played with 30 some games and it was always problem to me. Last years on consoles I played 60 FPS games only and finally we have 120 on current-gen. 30 is just hardly playable to me but it was always the same. If games won't have 120 mode on current-gen, I will probably move to PC only. Wreckfest is crazy good in 120 and the game deserves it.

Chasing cam could help with moves but I don't use it.

Smooth gaming is another factor. I don't think it's necessary but 120 is not much smooth as higher FPS. I like some comfort while playing.

 

[kikie]

Has anyone tried this?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1424629764

 

[Johnnn]

30fps on a console can actually be very acceptable, as it normally has a very, very stable rate of frame-timing, often making it look still quite smooth.

I found a time for the video. I agree with TV features. TV is great but I have never played on TV because I care about input lag and don't need big screen. So TV could help with image quality but increase input lag a bit at least. Another good point is optimization and that's very true. But today, I can have lock to 120 with VRR and have very smooth experience. That's how current-gen works but it's the same on PC. Maybe today engines are better but current games are very good at holding steady frame rates. Some games are still bad for sure. If you need constant 30 FPS, it's much easier to do than constant 120. For instance, I have some problems at on place at Oulton park in PC2/AMS2 on PC. I am not sure if it's on consoles but still it's about optimization.

If somebody is able to play on 30, it's his advantage. My eyes are very sad after some time My brain can accommodate for sure but it's not good for gaming to me.

 

[Scaff]

I found a time for the video. I agree with TV features. TV is great but I have never played on TV because I care about input lag and don't need big screen. So TV could help with image quality but increase input lag a bit at least. Another good point is optimization and that's very true. But today, I can have lock to 120 with VRR and have very smooth experience. That's how current-gen works but it's the same on PC. Maybe today engines are better but current games are very good at holding steady frame rates. Some games are still bad for sure. If you need constant 30 FPS, it's much easier to do than constant 120. For instance, I have some problems at on place at Oulton park in PC2/AMS2 on PC. I am not sure if it's on consoles but still it's about optimization.

If somebody is able to play on 30, it's his advantage. My eyes are very sad after some time My brain can accommodate for sure but it's not good for gaming to me.

Indeed it is still a lot to do with the individual, but interesting how different the experience can be across different platforms.

 

[Johnnn]

Indeed it is still a lot to do with the individual, but interesting how different the experience can be across different platforms.

That's true and reason why I like forums. So many different views and opinions. It's a mix of everything. In console world I saw much more than not 30 FPS is fine and smooth. OK, probably some people see it this way. Strange is the same people are now very happy how 60 is better on PS5/XSX so I am not sure how it is for them.

 

[PletdeKoe]

Well I have never been interested in the whole 30 vs 60 frames discussion. But, seeing it now in 4k resolution on my big screen, I can’t help but having to adjust a bit when it is 30 frames.

4k 60 frames just looks so fine. Best example for me is Ghost of Tsushima. Or even Dirt 2.0 for that matter.

And then; you realize you started of with a game boy and thought that looked fantastic....

 

[Johnnn]

I always preferred frame rate before graphics. My friends are usually opposite which is sad to me. Old games are still good to me because graphics is great for many years already.

Yesterday coincidentally I played on 120 and the game started to stutter after few hours. I thought it could be temperatures but probably it was the game I switch to 60 to test it but it was so bad after immediate switch. Curbs were blurry, cornering was much worse. I knew FPS games are completely different level but racing games should be fine. And no, they are not. It's interesting. That's the reason I sometimes join 30 vs. 60 debates because it's very strange to talk about in 2020+. I played on 60 20 years ago and was happy. But I need more now. Technology is on another level too.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

The cows are back.

 

[davidt33]

The cows are back.

LOL.

 

[MrCrynox]

I always preferred frame rate before graphics. My friends are usually opposite which is sad to me. Old games are still good to me because graphics is great for many years already.

Yesterday coincidentally I played on 120 and the game started to stutter after few hours. I thought it could be temperatures but probably it was the game I switch to 60 to test it but it was so bad after immediate switch. Curbs were blurry, cornering was much worse. I knew FPS games are completely different level but racing games should be fine. And no, they are not. It's interesting. That's the reason I sometimes join 30 vs. 60 debates because it's very strange to talk about in 2020+. I played on 60 20 years ago and was happy. But I need more now. Technology is on another level too.

Last night I played Dirt 5 @ 120fps on an Xbox Series X. I could feel the difference, it felt really smooth, but I must say I'm one of those who doesnt care wether its 30, 60 or 120fps. I can feel the difference sure, but as long as it's not up & down, I like it & can play it, I don't really care. Just adding my opinion to the debate

 

[Johnnn]

Last night I played Dirt 5 @ 120fps on an Xbox Series X. I could feel the difference, it felt really smooth, but I must say I'm one of those who doesnt care wether its 30, 60 or 120fps. I can feel the difference sure, but as long as it's not up & down, I like it & can play it, I don't really care. Just adding my opinion to the debate

That's how it is. 60 is minimum to me but it's possible to play with it. 60 is rather fine but it's not cool for 20 years. On PC I play 120 only and older games in 240. It's not necessary but it's visible and you should have lower input lag. It's just better for gaming but not necessary.

At least new-gen brings 120. THPS with 120 patch is on the way which is great. I hope every other racing game will be the same but who knows.

 

[kikie]

Isn't it more important to play games at an fps that matches half of the monitor's Hz?

If you have a 60Hz monitor, you need to play games at least at 30fps. This is I believe said many times on youtube channels covering everything you need to know about computers and games.

 

[Johnnn]

Isn't it more important to play games at an fps that matches half of the monitor's Hz?

If you have a 60Hz monitor, you need to play games at least at 30fps. This is I believe said many times on youtube channels covering everything you need to know about computers and games.

It's probably nonsense. You need as much FPS as possible but you are limited by your monitor. If you don't care about tearing and need low input lag, you can have 150 FPS on you 60 Hz monitor with bad quality but low input lag. Every frequency is fine but monitors don't offer many frequencies. VRR solves it so you can have what you want and fixed. Don't trust YT too much, it's usually complete garbage

 

[MrCrynox]

I think it's best to match your monitors Hz to game FPS, so if playing on XB1X/PS4Pro you need a monitor that is no more than 60Hz, I think this is the best match.

 

[Johnnn]

I think it's best to match your monitors Hz to game FPS, so if playing on XB1X/PS4Pro you need a monitor that is no more than 60Hz, I think this is the best match.

It depends, I read many times about not using vsync which is very strange to me but that's how people play sometimes. Console games on previous-gen used 60 Hz mode usually with FPS lock which is not much flexible. Current gen is much better.

 

[lbpomg95]

In short some of us are fine with 30fps, others aren't. In other news the Step Van is friggin' hilarious in a deathmatch against Supervans.

 

[Wolfe]

My take -- related to @Scaff's post, there is a significant difference between solid locked 30fps and a target of 30fps. There's also a meaningful difference between a game that opted for 30fps to accommodate complex CPU calculations that enhance the experience, or a game that opted for 30fps for a "filmic" look and flashy cinematic fluff.

Wreckfest for consoles is definitely choice A on the latter.

 

[Populuxe]

I played Wreckfest for the first time in weeks. Since we got the last batch of new cars, in fact. I did all the races in the tournament. The Wrecknado is stupid easy to gold. You only need 20k points but I wracked up almost a quarter of a million just driving around. I then went online. I tried the Bulldog (Volvo Amazon) with the ridiculous A709 tune at Fire Rock. Even at half throttle it produced lurid uncontrollable fishtails. I puttered around at quarter throttle and still got a fifth. Then I drove the hearse at Bonebreaker Valley. It’s been so long since I’ve played, I had forgotten about the hearse. It was fun even though I finished mid-pack. I raced the Gorbie at Wrecknado, Raiden RS at Drytown and Hillstreet, Boomer at Eagles Peak, and the Buggy at Pinehills. I tried a lot of different combinations. My best finish was a second in the Raiden at Hillstreet. I managed to stay out of trouble with both the rammers and the intersection at the bottom of the track. I guess I just needed to be reminded of how much fun this game is. I love the variety of cars and tracks. I’m not feeling the need for a Wreckfest 2 yet. There’s still plenty to do here, especially if they keep adding cars and tracks.

 

[Populuxe]

These trailers for Monster Jam: Steel Titans 2 look like Wreckfest for monster trucks. The trucks and gameplay look like fun. Anyone play it yet?

 

[MagpieRacer]

The FPS debate is just a preference thing. Unless there's a significant performance impact elsewhere.

What matters more to me is whether the physics systems have the same refresh. 60fps/60hz play with a 30hz physics engine is pointless.

 

[Johnnn]

The FPS debate is just a preference thing. Unless there's a significant performance impact elsewhere.

What matters more to me is whether the physics systems have the same refresh. 60fps/60hz play with a 30hz physics engine is pointless.

Input lag is measurable.

Normal physics refresh is in hundreds. Forza should have 360 and it's not a serious sim.

 

[MrCrynox]

4k 60fps patch for Xbox Series X !
On their community page.

 

[Nacho Libre]

So I downloaded Wreckfest through Gamepass to give it a go... It's very accessible from the start and I picked up the handling (with some assists) in no time but the 30 fps really are noticeable. Today the game updated and it seems it will still run on the Series S at 30 fps, but at 4K... I find this decision baffling and I would gladly trade resolution for framerates. C'mon 1080p @ 60 fps!

 

[lbpomg95]

The Hammerhead RS has been added to the store. As a Volvo 240 owner, I approve of this. Very much.

 

[Populuxe]

 

[Wolfe]

The Hammerhead RS has been added to the store. As a Volvo 240 owner, I approve of this. Very much.

I like driving the Hammerhead as an analog to my first Subaru, which I now affectionately refer to as the Rustwagon.

 

[Populuxe]

On the Woodland Dash time attack at Clayridge Circuit, I’m at 37.775 seconds. 37 seconds exactly are needed for gold. You would think a fraction over ¾ of a second would be easy to pick up, but my every lap that was not 37.775 seconds seems to argue against that.

I’m enjoying the Hammerhead RS, but I’d also like to see new bundles and paint schemes, too. New cars are great and I’ll never complain about that, but for me, those bundles and paint schemes are that touch of spice that keeps the game fun.

 

[RYAN]

I wish it was quicker to get Tournament points. As someone who hasn't played constantly from the start there is a lot I am yet to get in the Tournament store. I'm 2000 away from getting my Rocket RX but i'm still to get the Starbeast SS, Corvette thing, Doom rig and now the Hammerhead RS... Have no cool bundles neither. Be nice if you could repeat dailys but maybe only get half of the tournament points after you've done it for the first time maybe?

 

[Spacegoat]

From what little I've played of the update so far. I'm really liking the new rally circuit layout of the Pinehills track. Can already tell that is one that I'm going to be using a lot. Also, love that the Hammerhead RS has a livery option that resembles the old BTCC 850 wagon. Definitely using this on mine.

(Image stolen from Reddit)

 

[Shaun]

4k 60fps patch for Xbox Series X !
On their community page.

Nice,

I have the disc that I had previously installed on my son's Xbox One.

Does anyone know for me to get the benefit of the patch for my Series X do I need to install the whole lot via download or can I use the disc also to save on downloading some of it and essentially only downloading the patch?