Your Assetto Corsa Reviews.
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Well Luke Reiley is wrong isn't he. I only touched TT yesterday to get the trophy. As tired Tyres said, one make races are brilliant. if I lower the field to 6 or lower AI it feels like im racing my mates online. plus lets not pretend online doesn't work just because it has no private lobbies. Of course some people dont like online, but it works and that dispels the myth that it is only good for TT. Especially as there is in fact plenty of good racing to be had in race weekend. For me i just enjoy the racing, I don't care where I finish. Give it a try, one make cars, same class less AI. See what you think.
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- GTP_Orido
The online is region locked right ? That may only worked well when your country has quite good sales on the game ( PS4 or Xbox ), and the only way to get into other lobbies is by invitation. Private lobbies is a good thing to have, but online should never be region locked, most of PS3 online games have no region lock, why AC is employing region lock on the online portion of the game ? Could somebody point out the reason why ?
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I believe it is region locked but haven't noticed myself. Strange decisions especially if you didn't expect to sell millions world wide. When/if private lobbies come I hope they keep these rooms too as I like just clicking on a server and it's all set for me, no wasting time pondering over what combo to race. Anyone with few players in their region should join a ps4 community for now.
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- Johnnypenso
If it is actually true (I don't know that anyone has confirmed that yet) I can't imagine it's done for no reason at all. My guess would be online stability and ensuring as few connection/lag issues as possible. I don't know how much of an issue it is in other racing games, but in Gran Turismo you had the most problems when racing with people from another continent and you were almost always sure to get some kind of carnage related to lag or connection issues.
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The region lock needs to go IMO, the beauty of online is to meet new people and build a diverse community. This is easier with no lock and private lobbies that can be easily regulated by host, make a track day/race lobby weekly, sort the bad drivers from good ( block them ), send friend request on the good ones, much easier for them to join the room later.
I have seen reviewer mentioned it, it's locked and one of the Aussie player here confirmed it too, he told me about invitation work around.
The stability reason for locking is non sense IMO, many other games ( racing, fighting and shooting ) which are also demanding never have such region lock even on PS3. 505 Games Sniper Elite 3 which I have on PS3 also have no region lock, so it's unlikely 505 Games did the lock, more like Kunos decision ?
With private lobbies ( if implemented ), locking make no sense either if the lobbies have good options like in GT6, things like club ( which can be limited to certain region for membership ) I can limit certain region only when picking rooms ( closer to my location ) - there's option to limit to HK/Asian region on GT6 lobby.
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Agree region lock has to go, or simply give options. I've not had any problems so far so maybe stability does have something to do with it. In gt I couldn't even see half the field.
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- GTP_Orido
Invisible cars can happen regardless of the location of the player relative to other players, it's all in the connection quality of each players in the room. I have played with players from nearby countries and my own, some of them still can be invisible, although lag is less.
Another game I still play online on PS3, MGS V, it's solid as rock, I can play with people from far end of the earth with mic/voice chat, and still okay, minimal lag and doing headshots are no harder than when offline. Sniper Elite 3 and GTA V ( driving/shooting ) also great online on PS3, I played with 8-10 people.
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- Johnnypenso
While this is true, it's not the whole story is it. A bit like saying I can crash at 20 km/h and at 180 km/h so why not do 180 km/h down a city street? It's about probabiities and likelihoods and I don't think there's any denying that playing in fields with players that, on average, have lower pings/latency because they are physically closer to you, makes for a better experience. Otherwise you get more of this:
Different game, different requirements. While it may be true from your perspective, the only way you can know whether the experience is different in those games is to have played them region locked and region unlocked, otherwise you have no basis to say that the game is just fine in a quantitative sense when it's not region locked.
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I shall share my experience on this. Last time our group organize few race event and some player from HK joined us for racing. It was hell. Their cars are just like "teleporting" round the track. In which i think region lock should be unlock yes for sure. just for the sake of players who want to join other country players to play. Example GT6 lobby region choosing option is ok.
One thing came in to my mind, do you guys remembered how GTS national and manufacturer final are like ? Its limited within their nations only, i think the sole purpose is to ensure fluidity of the race. If not why don't do internantiona manufacturer final ?
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- Mauler_77
Getting hammered by the AI on Easy in the Lotus Exos 125. Did a practice session at Mugello and was pushing and pushing and they still ended up about 1.5s quicker than my 1:32.3xx and I was driving close to the limit at that point. Madness!
Difficulty in the road cars seems good at Hard level, although same-class racing seems poorly balanced, but those open-wheel AI cars are stupidly quick even on Easy.
Someone please set up an Easy race at Mugello against these cars and see how they fair, even in just the practice session; I need to know if I'm rubbish!
Difficulty in the road cars seems good at Hard level, although same-class racing seems poorly balanced, but those open-wheel AI cars are stupidly quick even on Easy.
Someone please set up an Easy race at Mugello against these cars and see how they fair, even in just the practice session; I need to know if I'm rubbish!
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- Johnnypenso
They've obviously borked this somehow. The best laptime on the RSR boards with 25 entries is 1:30.5 so I would think that on the hardest setting should be an AI best laptime of no lower than 1:32-1:33 with Easy coming in significantly slower than that. Hopefully the next update catches it.Getting hammered by the AI on Easy in the Lotus Exos 125. Did a practice session at Mugello and was pushing and pushing and they still ended up about 1.5s quicker than my 1:32.3xx and I was driving close to the limit at that point. Madness!
Difficulty in the road cars seems good at Hard level, although same-class racing seems poorly balanced, but those open-wheel AI cars are stupidly quick even on Easy.
Someone please set up an Easy race at Mugello against these cars and see how they fair, even in just the practice session; I need to know if I'm rubbish!
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- Mauler_77
Reading Marco's Facebook post gives me great hope. I copied it into the other thread 👍
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- Johnnypenso
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And I wouldn't've bothered posting my original one if I'd known he was going to post on FB eitherI swear I didn't know about that FB post when I typed my response above
DR_SID
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The game is a disaster when it comes to online/social play in my option and Luke Reily at ign nailed it on his review if you ask me.
"if I lower the field to 6 or lower AI it feels like im racing my mates online" if we're going to make excuses like that for Asetto Corsa then GT should also get the same treatment don't you think or parity is not up for discussion. I'll stick with my opinion that Asetto Corsa on console is a great time simulator and nothing more at this moment.
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No, ign didn't get it right, if they did then I would think it's nothing more than a time trial simulator right? As would every single person. Also lower to 6 AI is not an excuse for anything, it's what I do. So explain how 6 AI cars, or even a full grid equals nothing more than a time trial simulator? Also how is online a disaster? It works and it works well. Obviously they haven't set it up the way it should be, but a disaster would be if it didn't work. And what does it have to do with Gt? Lower gt to 6 ai and take them on the first corner. How does that even compare anyway? You may only get TT out of AC but that doesn't make it a fact that's all it is good for because it simply isn't unless I've been dreaming that I've been racing every night for the last 2 weeks.
Brend
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Played for an hour and a half so far. You guys were right, the physics in this game are mind blowingly good. The Abarth 500 handles like a dream. However, from a game design perspective the game is a total mess and lacks any form of polish. Pixilated race icons, barely legible stat screen at end of races, graphics are pretty PS3 tier and a lot more. I'll create a larger post when I'm off my mobile but so far it's exactly as expected.
Tired Tyres
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Subjective: existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject-rather than to the object of thought
Objective: something that one's efforts or actions are intended to attain or accomplish; purpose; goal; target
Online lobbies are quite barren if you ask me.
Racing games are not games of old like the 90's/00's.
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dopedog
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It is slightly unfair to slag off GT's "3 laps to win" and bang on about liking the racing and not caring where you finish in AC when AC also has a "3-4 laps to win to move on". Surely in GT you can organise longer races out of career no?
Both AC and GT have a similar career structure, you can ignore AC's then you can ignore GT's (and forza's) also no?
I can't believe i used to slag off PCars career structure for not having random weather! Its actually the best out there.
Both AC and GT have a similar career structure, you can ignore AC's then you can ignore GT's (and forza's) also no?
I can't believe i used to slag off PCars career structure for not having random weather! Its actually the best out there.
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The concept of GT is you have to earn cars or pay for them to unlock. For progression of single player that is fun for a lot of people (including me). What pCARS and AC have is everything is unlocked from the start. - GT gets around this a bit with the Arcade mode if I remember correctly..
I agree though with your point about starting in back and having 3-4 laps to win (in career) it is kinda the same. Not sure further into the career if you qualify or not.
As for weather - I am that guy, I don't like it. I want perfect racing conditions. I have "raced" at night and in the rain on tracks in real cars and it is not fun to me.
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There's no denying they are quite barren on the whole.
But are they the same people slagging GT off for that? And yes in GT you can organise longer races but what would be the point when you can pass all AI within the first lap? There's no racing to be had and personally whilst I find GT physics ok if im racing online I don't find them very engaging on their own. If I could win every race in AC on the first lap then I wouldn't find the racing fun there either. I like racing and having cars around me, in fact I dont even like being first until the last lap. I like chasing cars down, I feel lost when I'm out in front unless I have cars right on my tail.
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dopedog
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I agree about the weather, I hate racing at night in games also. Oddly I started playing a bit of the AC career and i sort of got into it, got to the Lotus bit at Silverstone so only the beginning but it was good fun.
Scaff
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Nice try, but the wrong definitions.
Subjective - as in personal opinion or preference, by its nature it can't be wrong. For example "I like mint choc chip ice cream" is subjective as its my personal preference and can't be 'wrong;.
Objective - A statement of fact that can be proven to be correct or incorrect. For example "Mint Choc Chip ice cream exist", is objective as it can be proven to be true or not.
Subjectively you find AC to be nothing more than a tool for Time Trials, objectively that is not true.
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- Johnnypenso
I don't see any evidence that it's the same people, no. And selective comparisons about isolated elements of their respective careers is just that, selective, and ignores the careers and the racing in their entirety in order to advance a narrative. The comparison is moot to begin with because there is no racing in GT with equal cars for all but the slowest of the slow and, with no standing starts it's a series of TT's with moving pylons because the cars are so far off pace in like equipment. The only way to equalize your car vs. the AI is to seriously nerf your power and/or your tires, to the point where your cornering and/or straightaway speeds are so different from the AI, again, you aren't racing, you are just dodging multiple pylons. Any objective comparisons between the careers should really end right there because the basic elements of racing, equally prepared cars at the same speed as you, doesn't exist in GT.
A comparison with Project Cars would be much more valid and in that case, Project Cars would probably win hands down with most people familiar with both games.
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Got those from dictionary.com lol
Oh boy, time to leave this thread before the baitingWay to get the point
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Scaff
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Yes, and you didn't bother looking past the first definition for each:
Which was fine for Subjective:
"existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective)."
You then however used the Noun definition for Objective rather that the adjective definition (as you did with the definition of Subjective)
Objective:
not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased:
and
of or relating to something that can be known, or to something that is an object or a part of an object; existing independent of thought or an observer as part of reality.
and
being the object of perception or thought; belonging to the object of thought rather than to the thinking subject (opposed to subjective).
So as I said "Subjectively you find AC to be nothing more than a tool for Time Trials, objectively that is not true."
