Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"
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- thomas81
You believe? Be a sceptic based on confirmed facts please.
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- CroGamer14
And why do you think twins think alike?
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- motorforum
Aww, did you not like hearing the truth that standard cars will likely look less impressive than cars in games you'll happily slate all day long?
The premium cars are night and day better than any other game, so I don't see why people are on the defensive about standard cars being inferior compared to modern graphical standards.
The premium cars are night and day better than any other game, so I don't see why people are on the defensive about standard cars being inferior compared to modern graphical standards.
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- thomas81
I love the truth, but you weren`t writing the truth, you just wrote down some speculations you made on your own. Unless you are Kazunoris assistant, and you got all the inside facts about GT5, if that`s the case, I do apologize.
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It's not speculation that there was a LOD system in GT4. The car models in Photo Mode were rendered to the maximum amount of detail the PS2 could provide, and in-game they were toned down because of the console's limitations.
Therefore, it's a very reasonable assumption to make that the PS3, a system exponentially more powerful than its predecessor, would take advantage of GT4's Photo Mode LOD for standard cars in GT5.
No, this isn't confirmed. But just because something isn't confirmed does not mean that, if there's enough evidence to support it, people shouldn't speculate.
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- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
Please tell me this isn't a serious point. Games advance in time, and standards change. The first racing game I played was an F1 game that was in blocky, pixelated 2D. If a game fitting that description came out now, I wouldn't consider it competitive. Cockpit views shouldn't be some magical happy bonus in 2010.
Its not that Go-Karts are a bad inclusion, its great,
The point is (assuming Kaz wasn't bull****ing again) that the karts were being worked on for GT6,
Why when there was/is so much needing attention/completion in GT5(ala standard/premium fiasco/ livery editor) are they working on GT6,
So many people are backing up Kaz and PD saying they only had 140 or so staff working for them, then some of them go off working on GT6,
I'm sorry but thats just insane, and seems Kaz went off (with some of his team) on a tangent.
Saying a person who criticises the games faults shouldn't buy the game is a childish, basic response,
Just becasue we are criticising the game dosnt mean we are not fans, I suspect in some case many of the "whingers, moaners and nit-pickers" are much bigger fans then the "lets just accept it, Kaz wills it" brigade.
And what the hell is gonna happen when we try to bring a standard car into photo travel, or will that be another aspect of the game with 'but' attached to it
All in all, 👍
Karts are a fringe feature. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be entertaining, but more of a mini-game in my eyes than anything else. And there's been an outpouring of support for the Track Creator, while it really is little more than a random course creator a la Enthusia. The user gets a handful of toggles to change what it maps out, but really, we're not the ones creating anything. Don't get me wrong; I'm going to enjoy it a lot, and use it a lot too, for just unwinding and casually driving a favourite car down a road whenever I feel, knowing it (should be) different each time (depending on exactly how many variations are possible given this system).
As for Standards in Photo Mode... it should be interesting, PD has avoided showing us that so far. Considering it the size of the images it outputs, I'm seriously curious. Maybe Standards will be limited to being output in GT4's size? Or at least, something smaller than the 18mp shots we've seen so far. Giving us an image that is many times larger than even the biggest texture resolutions on Standards is going to highlight the differences between tiers.
And here, we see the one unapproachable defense that will hence-forth always be used by fanboys: "They're working on it for the next game."
No, just GT4.
Considering the heavy tie-in with TG, I expect that there will be a suitably biased review of the game upon release. Would it work any other way?
And of course, we have a ton of evidence to support this theory, going on what PD themselves have shown us of Standards so far. You're just forgetting that evidence is pointless around here if it highlights anything remotely negative
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And once again, the cycle begins anew.
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- spagetti69
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Fair point, although I was ofcourse speaking hypothetically of him being a fan of the GT-franchise and discovering this whole issue.
Can't concieve of him speaking in very diplomatic terms if he was a regular "objective" journo as opposed to the current tie-in which is probably dealt with by only showing Premiums or not talking about it at all.
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- spagetti69
Well if GT4 cars are future proofed, why are we having all this hassle now.
GT5 cars are being future proofed, are we gonna go through this again on PS4.
GT5 cars are being future proofed, are we gonna go through this again on PS4.
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- GTP_Nismo
They were designed for a future that never happened.
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- SmoothHerb
Why do so many people say that the premium cars are PS4 cars?
You know this is the PS3 with PS3 GT and PS3 Tracks and PS3 Cars! This is what a PS3 can do, not a PS4!
This is not an xbox, its a PS3! And GT5 is the first game that push the PS3 to the Limit. And all the nice and beautiful screenshots we saw(most of them)were from the Photomode not in-game. But thats not the point, it only confuses me how so many can say:
wow look PS4 cars on the PS3! And when they look greater than reality, it still would be PS3 cars on the PS3!
Sorry, had to say this.
You know this is the PS3 with PS3 GT and PS3 Tracks and PS3 Cars! This is what a PS3 can do, not a PS4!
This is not an xbox, its a PS3! And GT5 is the first game that push the PS3 to the Limit. And all the nice and beautiful screenshots we saw(most of them)were from the Photomode not in-game. But thats not the point, it only confuses me how so many can say:
wow look PS4 cars on the PS3! And when they look greater than reality, it still would be PS3 cars on the PS3!
Sorry, had to say this.
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- GTP_Nismo
Ask Kaz, he started it.
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dave_sz
Do you know Sarah Conner.
Oh kaz said PS4.
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- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
Fair point, although I was ofcourse speaking hypothetically of him being a fan of the GT-franchise and discovering this whole issue.
Can't concieve of him speaking in very diplomatic terms if he was a regular "objective" journo as opposed to the current tie-in which is probably dealt with by only showing Premiums or not talking about it at all.
Oh, I knew the tone you meant... it just got me thinking about what will happen on the show itself. Considering that a lot of people here have some incredibly high views of the show, I can only imagine their fair and balanced review will be held as essentially gospel
.I am wondering how "touched up" these publicity photos we've so far seen are. What I mean is, if the Jag and Ferrari and Ford all sport identical models when we're racing, or if it's sorta like GT4 again when we're in Photomode. We can't really tell for sure so far since we're going by off-screen recordings from Gamescom. Not that I'm terribly concerned, because from those videos it looks plenty good to me. Just curious, mostly.
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- Dravonic
PS4 cars is PR bullcrap. Sure, they are far, far better than anything else on the PS3, even better than anything on the PC, but they are still PS3 cars. Instead of saying the have the best looking cars this generation they went with the catchy "PS4 cars" phrase.
Either that or they actually believe what they say...
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- GTP_Nismo
Oh, I knew the tone you meant... it just got me thinking about what will happen on the show itself. Considering that a lot of people here have some incredibly high views of the show, I can only imagine their fair and balanced review will be held as essentially gospel
I am wondering how "touched up" these publicity photos we've so far seen are. What I mean is, if the Jag and Ferrari and Ford all sport identical models when we're racing, or if it's sorta like GT4 again when we're in Photomode. We can't really tell for sure so far since we're going by off-screen recordings from Gamescom. Not that I'm terribly concerned, because from those videos it looks plenty good to me. Just curious, mostly.
Hey now. I love the show and I actually think it's the best show on TV anywhere. But, I know not to take most of it seriously.
I think it's fair to say that the same thing we had in GT4 with the on track cars and the photomode cars will happen again in GT5. We already saw the jag going around LaSarthe with the engine bay not looking anywhere near as good as the on from the other, close up, production shots.
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Oh, I knew the tone you meant... it just got me thinking about what will happen on the show itself. Considering that a lot of people here have some incredibly high views of the show, I can only imagine their fair and balanced review will be held as essentially gospel
The best promo would simply be letting The Stig play the game with Clarkson supplying dry commentary and all the teenage boys going berserk that the game they play has also been played by The Stig.
About being unbiased, before the current tie-in I remember a BBC show presented by James May about the history of toys in general where he did play GT4 and he wasn't impressed by it to put it mildly.
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He probably couldn't do it...
I feel like its the lack of the cockpit view
Peter
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And since we are starting this crap again, I will simply ask how stupid do you think PD are if you think that they have a bunch much-better-looking-than-GT4 cars to use for the Standard models and decided to not show them in the one piece of PR that shows the Standard cars.
No. They appear to have better textures (and only better textures), except apparently the C5R.
Wait a second, rage on hold. Im a little confused now from some other forums, does interior view even mean cockpit view? Or is interior view something like the photo mode were your able to explore they whole interior of the car and is it that only 200 cars will have this feature while all 1000 cars have a cockpit view with only 200 being perfect to the actual car? Or does interior view mean cockpit view?
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