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That's a different year NSX isn't it? The decals on the door are in different places on the game cars.
Yeah. Even the HQ video they had on the RB site was maybe 480 lines at best.
Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"
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Yeah. Even the HQ video they had on the RB site was maybe 480 lines at best.
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Thanks for that Griffith; yeah, it was never a very high-quality video, but those stills show the smoothness of the wheel well curve, and the side mirrors, and even the modelled panel gap on the roof. Definitely a Premium.
It's unfortunate that "dark windshield" has become the common identifier for Standards, since SuperGT cars all seem to have fairly tinted windows.
If we really can have karts on track (we haven't witnessed it yet), there'd be no reason to not allow 32 Standards on track at once either, since they're probably still made of less polygons than a kart (and don't have to show as much of the driver model and it's associated animations). As long as the system can juggle the physics calculations necessary for that size grid, I wouldn't see why not...
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I think PD simply didnt have the time or resources to make all the cars premium.
What PD should do is hire enough staff after the release to work on GT6 and make all the cars premium.
What PD should do is hire enough staff after the release to work on GT6 and make all the cars premium.
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I'm not sure what year it is in-game, but it does look slightly different, yes. The real one's supposedly a 2008, but the '07 is very similar, just with a different front apron. I'm no expert on these cars, but I posted the pics merely as representatives of what the real things look like approximately. Notice the green on the Takata is miles off in-game (blame the lighting, I dunno), for example, and the headlights look different on the ADVAN GTR.
The video is 960 x 540, so it's better than YouTube (given they're both H.264, hence the graininess), except those that were upscaled to 720p from this source first (if that eventually happened.)
Yeah, the actual car (well, as close as I could find) has a dark interior - that was the picture that was missing in my previous post.
It's in context (and hopefully visible...) here.
32 Standards would be fantastic, Physics / AI / Sound permitting
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This is the one in the video it's a 2006 Model, click for enlarged sizes.
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Yeah, that looks about right. I guess this means the Woodone GTR is from 2008, and is actually a "Kondo Racing" machine?
Notice the '08 Dome Takata NSX, too. PD are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...
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personally, i am looking forward to the standard cars. for me, gameplay>graphics, and since i dont use cockpit view anyways, more power to me
Yeah, I maybe used 20-30% of all racing in cockpit view in Prologue.. Later I rather use roof or bumper view, I hope GT5 has hood view also.
GT4 had CLK55 AMG just like my brother has ! and I am really excited for testing it out with new physics engine and Sounds and compare it to real life! Of course in real life we dont drive like in GT games but some things should be noticeable.
I cant wait!
And I super agree! Gameplay > Graphics
People comeplain now about standard cars, but once they feel they have same physics engine as Premium cars, they will not care about it anymore!
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Yeah, that looks about right. I guess this means the Woodone GTR is from 2008, and is actually a "Kondo Racing" machine?
Notice the '08 Dome Takata NSX, too. PD are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...
You mentioned you have the mp4 of the video? Is this the video which was taken down and is no longer available?
If so, how might I acquire it?
Oh and I hope we can have that SuperGT Lamborghini Gallardo that was in your post, that looks amazing.
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Again this is just preaching to the converted by both sides of this argument, and I guess when you refer to people complaining will simply don't care anymore about the lack of cockpit view when they experience the new physics engine you just easily assume everybody feels or should feel the same as you do ( or adress it to people who actually do feel the same way you do, like I made clear in the first sentence ).
This whole debate isn't about physics, and to me it isn't even about graphics, it's the lack of gameplay features like cockpit view ( and visual damage differences, etc. although that to me isn't as relevant ).
I never prioritize different game elements over the other ( unless they're relatively trivial like 2D trees, etc. ) as for me it's the complete package and how it all works together.
It's a question of perception whether you'd argue cockpit view is just a graphical element ( which literally and technically it is ofcourse, like most of the visual info processed in any game is ) or a gameplay feature ( which to me it is as the experience when driving, more realistic or not, is different from any other view and that's what constitutes a gameplay element to me ).
Perception is also dependant on whether you use it all the time, sometimes or not at all and whether you think it adds something significant to the experience or just another option which you could do without.
And ofcourse personal preference, whether you actually like it or not.
GT5 will offer a lot which makes it a first day buy for me and it will keep me entertained for a long long time.
I really hope the new physics engine will impress the hell out of me ( as it previously always did ) but even how good and enjoyable the new physics are they simply won't be a substitute for cockpit view ( as the same physics can be experienced in cockpit view on Premium cars ).
But as said before, just preaching to the converted, because if you already aren't convinced or appreciate cockpit view when playing Prologue I won't convince you or others who don't care for it.
But don't assume we're all the same and think the same or even having the same priorities.
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You mentioned you have the mp4 of the video? Is this the video which was taken down and is no longer available?
If so, how might I acquire it?
Oh and I hope we can have that SuperGT Lamborghini Gallardo that was in your post, that looks amazing.
This is the post where I got it from. It still seems to work, but is a bit slow! You need a rtmp client to get it; I used rtmpdump, but it's a command-line job.
saidur-ali then uploaded the file to YouTube after upscaling to 720p, so there is minimal loss of detail, but it's since been deleted.
Somebody else posted a direct download link a while ago, for one that had been re-uploaded to a http site. Anybody remember?
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I was specifically talking about the difference in gameplay features ( and lack thereof ) within the two-tier system in GT5, not in relation to another game nor was I referring to the gameplay features not related to this two-tier system in GT5 itself ( which indeed are more than most or any other racing game currently offers ).
Read before commenting please and don't edit things so it's completely out of context.
Like this, which makes no sense other than being an obvious statement, see?
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That's the badger! Thanks 👍
It works with the KLite codec pack, too, with Media Player Classic.
In fact, it'll work with anything that'll play H.264 videos.
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Me either. Like I said in a previous post we are in the dark on most of the game imo.
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I can't believe thats a question. Of course they can.
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Source?
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are karts counted as premium? i hope not because that takes up a spot at the 200 premiums number
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I think you mean this post:
Not sure what you mean by cars not projecting their headlights, but none of the LMP prototypes shown in that trailer are standards.
Not sure what you mean by low quality headlights either. As far as I remember, PD mentioned standards will have low beams only, while premiums will have both high and low beams.
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