Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

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What would you have rather had PD do about "premium" vs. "standard" cars

  • Keep everthing the same

    Votes: 324 19.1%

  • Release the game later with all the cars "premium"

    Votes: 213 12.6%

  • Not do "premium" cars at all but focus on other features i.e. dynamic weather

    Votes: 134 7.9%

  • DLC packs after the release

    Votes: 844 49.8%

  • Wished PD didn't get are hopes up, lol

    Votes: 180 10.6%
  • Total voters
    1,695
I think it's a different video. It's the one that people were complaining about the way the cars were lit at night. Maybe the Red Bull trailer. There were several shots where you could see 6-8 cars from a distance at night. The first three or four had very bright headlights, clearly illuminating the road in front of them (like in that weather vid). The cars in the back of the pack, however, had very weak, almost cats-eye type of headlights that illuminated nothing more than a foot or two in front of the car. Hence, standards. Unless you can think of some other reason why some cars have functional headlights and others don't.

Besides, do you really think they're going to go out of their way to program the game so that it only accepts certain cars in certain races? That you'll be able to sneak your way through a difficult race by using a standard car, thus preventing the computer from using any premium cars for your opponents? Common sense, people.

On the subject of GT4 models, does anyone have any photos showing the difference between gameplay models and Photo Mode models? Since that's most likely what we're going to get, are the Photo Mode models.
 
Jedi2016
I think it's a different video. It's the one that people were complaining about the way the cars were lit at night. Maybe the Red Bull trailer. There were several shots where you could see 6-8 cars from a distance at night. The first three or four had very bright headlights, clearly illuminating the road in front of them (like in that weather vid). The cars in the back of the pack, however, had very weak, almost cats-eye type of headlights that illuminated nothing more than a foot or two in front of the car.
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I think this could be related to draw distance. Like when a building or mountain pop in from very far away. Or how cars don't look that great in the rearview mirror like in prologue.
 
Jedi2016
I think it's a different video. It's the one that people were complaining about the way the cars were lit at night. Maybe the Red Bull trailer. There were several shots where you could see 6-8 cars from a distance at night. The first three or four had very bright headlights, clearly illuminating the road in front of them (like in that weather vid). The cars in the back of the pack, however, had very weak, almost cats-eye type of headlights that illuminated nothing more than a foot or two in front of the car. Hence, standards. Unless you can think of some other reason why some cars have functional headlights and others don't.

Besides, do you really think they're going to go out of their way to program the game so that it only accepts certain cars in certain races? That you'll be able to sneak your way through a difficult race by using a standard car, thus preventing the computer from using any premium cars for your opponents? Common sense, people.

On the subject of GT4 models, does anyone have any photos showing the difference between gameplay models and Photo Mode models? Since that's most likely what we're going to get, are the Photo Mode models.
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https://www.gtplanet.net/stunning-gt5-gameplay-video-night-racing-at-la-sarthe/

There's a video of night racing, the last one. It looks like all the cars have their low beams on. Since you have to hold the R2 button to keep high beams on, I'm going to assume that all the trailers also have low beams on, not high beams.
 
Draw distance wouldn't do that.

You folks can argue it all day, it's not going to change it. Standards and Premiums WILL be on the track at the same time. I'm calling it. We'll talk again on Nov 2nd. Cheers.
 
Jedi2016
Draw distance wouldn't do that.

You folks can argue it all day, it's not going to change it. Standards and Premiums WILL be on the track at the same time. I'm calling it. We'll talk again on Nov 2nd. Cheers.
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I called it 4 months ago. So what? Fact is you have no proof and whatever proof you thought was there, just made your case even weaker since it doesn't seem to be exist. You can't go around announcing something as fact if you can't back it up.
 
You can't back up that they won't be together. If we haven't seen any in trailers it's obviously because PD is showcasing the best they have to offer. I would too.
 
Oh, I agree; there's no proof that the two tiers won't be able to run together.

In either case, a lack of proof for one side doesn't mean the other side is automatically true. You can argue the "I'm calling it" crap all you want, and that's fine. But it makes your particular guess right. Nothing has been confirmed, which is the entire point.

Seriously, how old are some of you?
 
SlipZtrEm
Oh, I agree; there's no proof that the two tiers won't be able to run together.

In either case, a lack of proof for one side doesn't mean the other side is automatically true. You can argue the "I'm calling it" crap all you want, and that's fine. But it makes your particular guess right. Nothing has been confirmed, which is the entire point.

Seriously, how old are some of you?
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Word.
FlourescentBlak
You can't back up that they won't be together. If we haven't seen any in trailers it's obviously because PD is showcasing the best they have to offer. I would too.
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Kind of, as I said, he would need proof of them on the same track. So far, there haven't been any photos or videos of the car tiers intermixed.
 
I hope that are on track at once... shutup you perfectionist.. I don't want to sight a standard when I play my premium..


Yes they will be there and they are all cars for goodness sake. I will rpobably play with premiums and only standards if I like that car. They aren't going to be greatly noticeable when your driving so it doesn't matter.


Yes it would be gerat to ahve 1000 premiums but I like most would prefer 1000 cars, 200 premium 800 standard over just 200 premium and never ever getting to play 800 cars.


We probably wont see them together much as PD want to show the best. We basicallyhaven't seen anything to do with standard at all anyway.



As for intermixing them, PD want to show the best, yes, like every other game, so they show one car doing something or maybe overtaking another car. Why would you show your two not the best cars when you can show the two best looking most interesting cars. Haven't you noticed the cars that they showcase are always supercars or imprezas or evo's... cars that we all recognise and want to see. And when I say we I mean most, who don't follow the game development religiously like us.

THey are going to show a Honda Jazz (Fit for USA folk) passing a toyota corolla... that would just be boring.... they aren't fast, they are interesting, they don't feature in any major series.

We may see a couple of vids with them before hand but thats all, they will show the best. Just as they always show specacular crashes to showcase the crash model rather than a guy driving like a hack into an invisible barrier in a rally stage and going backward and foward and keep ramming it.

It just looks bad, so it wont be done. Everything that goes out, is put through PR, and everything must show GT5 is a brilliant light... bad driving, standard cars, faults with the physics model, etc.. wont EVER be focused upon if they can help it.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
Unsurprisingly, 750 is exactly the number of cars available in GT4. It can't be a coincidence in my opinion. Since GTPSP introduced some new cars, and several standard ones from GT4 have been upgraded to Premium, I don't think that the list there shows the standard cars that will be available in GT5.
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I saw the improvement on standards. They will have damage features and scratches. and better textures
 
The two tiers of damage would mean that a standard car could bash a premium car about for a lot longer before it becomes undrivable, so that's a good reason why I think they might be kept separate. Certainly would raise issues online.
 
GT5 Sceptic
The two tiers of damage would mean that a standard car could bash a premium car about for a lot longer before it becomes undrivable, so that's a good reason why I think they might be kept separate. Certainly would raise issues online.
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This is not true. The fact that that standard cars look less damaged doesn't say anything about how the game calculates damage.
As far as I know it was stated that the two tiers of damage only represented the visual damage and not the 'internal' damage.


On Topic: As DLC doesn't seem to be on the agenda I think I'll settle for: "Happy with whatever we'll get."
 
FlourescentBlak
Would you like to bet?
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No. Of course not. I too think standards and premiums will be drivable together. But that's the thing, think. I've never seen proof for either side, yet somehow you affirmed that they can, so you must have some kind of proof I overlooked.

Or so I thought.

SHIRAKAWA Akira
Please show an example of better textures on standard cars in GT5.
Last time I checked, textures were exactly the same.
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This was discussed here back in the day. We've seen an old corvette, can't remember the exact model unfortunately, that have considerably better textures.

I can't search for it right now but it shouldn't be hard to find.
 

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