Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

[JDMKING13]

Maybe I'm not seeing so well but it seems to me that the challenger in the screenshot where it's behind the camaro has projector headlights and the orange one has the old standard reflection headlights??

You are defiantly right Hmm wonder whats that about.

 

[kingcars]

Maybe I'm not seeing so well but it seems to me that the challenger in the screenshot where it's behind the camaro has projector headlights and the orange one has the old standard reflection headlights??

Looks the same as the closeup picture Challenger to me

 

[Scotracer]

I know of the faster ones - and yes very scary. We're lucky you're still with us. But we have no idea what the karts in GT5 will consist of, or what their use in the game will be (a total guess, but I'd be edging closer to them being used for learning racing basics in a driving school situation than high-power death-machine karts... no idea though).

But do you think GT5 will accurately represent the scariness of open-wheel driving? When translated into the game, my money is still on karts feeling simplistic/less interesting in comparison to cars with suspension, and the vulnerability/scariness of open-wheel racing will not be apparent, simply because it is a game.

Edit:
A lot of my assumptions are based on how much more involving the handling was, how much more enjoyable to drive the road cars were in past GT titles compared to the F1 cars. Despite the F1s being much faster. I'm worried karts in a Gran Turismo context might translate to a similar feeling, but just slower!

The things which make a particular car scary/adrenaline-fueled is the sense of speed and the sound. GT5 appears to have a good sense of speed but the series has never been renowned for good audio. You gotta hear a racing kart at 15,000rpm

That's what gets me in my kart, it's not just the kick in the back it's the fact you are on a small, tight circuit and the thing is screaming right next to your ear.

 

[AgusBmxArg]

I can't wait to see what DLC and add-ons will be available for this game.
EPIC game is EPIC.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I have actually been watching GT4 videos of late (really miss the game)and lets just say I don't care about standard cars anymore,all of them are awesome

 

[Tenacious D]

GT4 didn't know the meaning of physics. Whether or not they look the same, GT4 and 5 are totally different. I just can't wrap my head around people buying a game for graphics. Why not watch a movie? But of course, opinions are opinions.

The premium/standard thing has one very good aspect to it IMO though. Something that was missing from previous games. PD is not putting graphics at the top, it's clear now. I've been waiting for this since 1997. GT4 looked fine; port that to PS3 with no HD support and give me upgraded physics, and I'd have the best GT game of all time. I want to play it.

I have actually been watching GT4 videos of late (really miss the game)and lets just say I don't care about standard cars anymore.

I've been playing GT4, and even with primitive physics, it's still just amazing, through and through. So many cars, so many tracks, so many events...

And GT5 will be even bigger.

You guys can stick your noses in the air if you wish, but if you restrict yourselves to playing 20% of GT5, or less, you'll be missing out on some awesome stuff. I can just about guarantee it.

By the way, someone mentioned contacting PD about this. But what's the real problem?

SONY forced Polyphony to quit work in the very middle of GT5 production to work on GT PSP.

SONY only funded Polyphony enough to hire an additional few dozen employees.

What we need to do is contact SONY, and get them to pony up the funds to staff Polyphony with enough talented people to properly do the job. And then not poke their idiot noses in on them until they do what they set out to accomplish.

 

[Tornado]

SONY forced Polyphony to quit work in the very middle of GT5 production to work on GT PSP.

I've been thinking about this, and it makes less and less sense the more thought I put into it. I really doubt that Sony would force PD to do much of anything in the middle of making GT5, much less make a PSP game of all things. What I find more likely is that Sony probably planned on farming development out to some third party for GTPSP, and Kaz stepped in and said that they would rather work on it themselves than have someone else do so. That simply makes more sense, as it is much more consistent with how Sony has handled all of the other first party PSP games of PS2/PS3 franchises.


Which, if true, is admirable on Kaz's part, but still pretty short-sighted.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

As for 'interior view'; it's a silly way to say it. Why not just call it the dashboard or the cockpit? (talking to PD/Sony).. ...

The interior can easily refer to the stitches, leather seating, center console, speakers, console buttons (emergency flashers, AC/heat, etc) while the cockpit is simply the cockpit; a steering wheel, windshield, gearbox and that's about it. The premiums are rendered down to the last stitch, to the buttons on the console to the different shades of interior lining; the standards aren't. This leads me to believe that interior=/=cockpit which leads me to believe they'll all have a cockpit. Follow me?

Why the heck would a dev as smart as PD not include 800 "decent" interiors? If they don't, so be it. But let us give them the benefit of the doubt for now. No?

 

[gtracedriver]

As for 'interior view'; it's a silly way to say it. Why not just call it the dashboard or the cockpit? (talking to PD/Sony).. ...

The interior can easily refer to the stitches, leather seating, center console, speakers, console buttons (emergency flashers, AC/heat, etc) while the cockpit is simply the cockpit; a steering wheel, windshield, gearbox and that's about it. The premiums are rendered down to the last stitch, to the buttons on the console to the different shades of interior lining; the standards aren't. This leads me to believe that interior=/=cockpit which leads me to believe they'll all have a cockpit. Follow me?

Why the heck would a dev as smart as PD not include 800 "decent" interiors? If they don't, so be it. But let us give them the benefit of the doubt for now. No?

Yeah, I think you are absolutely right.

I just want to see how good the standard models will be

 

[alonsof1fan91]

I know what you mean. Once owning a 74 vette the thing I loved the most about that car was looking through the windshield over the top of those big sexy fenders. Nothing can come close to driving a old vette. I cannot wait until that is recreated on my 52" HDTV.

Yeah, I know what you mean, eventhough im from europe and not the biggest fan of muscle cars.
Atleast some guys get the cars they want
Looking at those pictures, Im 100% sure that it`ll be awesome to take those things around Daytona.

But, it still makes me sad that we haven`t seen a classic Ferrari/Lamborghini/Maserati yet


Oh, I don`t give a crap about this standart/premium thing anymore... Just imagine PD delivering only 200 cars... I still prefer 200 GT5 cars + 800 upscaled GT4 cars.
The only thing that makes me abit upset is, that cars like the Suzuki Swift, Cappucinco (damn, I can`t spell it) or Mini are premium and the Countach isn`t...

 

[JDMKING13]

As for 'interior view'; it's a silly way to say it. Why not just call it the dashboard or the cockpit? (talking to PD/Sony).. ...

The interior can easily refer to the stitches, leather seating, center console, speakers, console buttons (emergency flashers, AC/heat, etc) while the cockpit is simply the cockpit; a steering wheel, windshield, gearbox and that's about it. The premiums are rendered down to the last stitch, to the buttons on the console to the different shades of interior lining; the standards aren't. This leads me to believe that interior=/=cockpit which leads me to believe they'll all have a cockpit. Follow me?

Why the heck would a dev as smart as PD not include 800 "decent" interiors? If they don't, so be it. But let us give them the benefit of the doubt for now. No?

What brings me to ease besides these sources saying we have cockpit view is on the GT official page. When you look at the premium model section is say nothing about cockpit racing view. It just describes how authentic the exterior and interior are to their real life counterpart. The only reason we know the premium cars have cockpit racing views is because we have saw them and played with them in GT5P. The standard section also says nothing about cockpit but says the interior will not be as detail as the premiums. In the End cockpit racing view is a huge issue, and just as they explained the difference between the the damage model between the premium and standard and the difference between the lights on the stand and premium cars, cockpit being a huge issue i think they would of clearly said Standard cars have no cockpit racing view on their web page.

👍

 

[AERO_HDT]

Cockpits are for aeroplanes.

 

[Rodpunisher]

Do you guys think that in this pic there are both standard and premium cars??

http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-rome-1.jpg

 

[Piotrov]

Do you guys think that in this pic there are both standard and premium cars??

http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-rome-1.jpg

it would seem so. As that Vett stingray was in the standard trailer.

 

[dzidza]

have you noticed how only first row of spectators is 3d, but others are cardboards :-). good way to increase performance :-)

 

[yogaflame]

there is still no official confirmation if all cars will have inside view. That email is not official

 

[speedfreak69]

Old camaro and challenger look standard(dark windscreen)...

 

[Spagetti69]

have you noticed how only first row of spectators is 3d, but others are cardboards :-). good way to increase performance :-)

Standard and premium spectators. What ever next.

 

[paulpg87]

in the image are all premium cars, no standards in the demo. Stingray is just the same colour of the standard video but it's the cuope version that is premium.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Do you guys think that in this pic there are both standard and premium cars??

http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-rome-1.jpg

These are all Premium.

 

[Piotrov]

It seems odd to me that in the Master Car list there are 140 cars marked as premium.. Thats roughly 75% of the premium cars... That sounds like a big number to reveal before the game has even come out. There have to be some standard cars mixed in there.

In my Oppinion PD maybe made it seem like the standard cars are worse then they actually are. It would just complicate things too much in Career mode to have a very big difference between the two if they were like night and day.

Even if the windows are blacked out or just shaded on the standar cars I believe that they will look very similar to the premiums.

But dont shoot me if im wrong

 

[BLACK86]

These are all Premium.

theres no way they are all premiums, either someone has photoshopped that pic or they really are standard cars.

edit i guess im wrong, just realised the pic are from the news page

 

[Zembla]

To be fair... I don't really care much about premium vs standard cars.

From what I gather, standard cars might just have interiors as well, just modelled a lot less detailedly than the interiors of the premium cars.

In essence, the "premium" cars are exactly that "premium" cars. You shouldn't consider the standard cars as being less than premium cars, rather, the premiums being more than standard.

I'm sure, with PD/KY's eye for detail, the standard cars will be absolutely amazing too.

\Drives with bumpercam usually, so won't be too much bothered by premium vs standard, so long as they both have pro physics.

PS. If someone could tell me where the heck it has been stated exactly which car model is a standard one, and which one is a premium model that would be greatly appreciated. I read replies in this thread from people who claim to have seen the difference between premium and standard... but I've been on top of the GT5 news, and haven't really seen any clear indications to which models one can consider standard and which can be considered premium?

-Z

 

[Earth]

\Drives with bumpercam usually, so won't be too much bothered by premium vs standard, so long as they both have pro physics.

This is the only problem I have. Ever since the release of GT5P I had made a promise to myself only to race from the cockpit view. Before that in GT1-4 I raced from chase cam or roof cam. I never could get comfortable in bumper cam. I really dont want to have to go back to roof cam for GT5. It feels like a step back.

I dont care that much about graphics. The standard cars will benefit tremendously from a 1080p upscale treatment and GT5's lifelike lighting system. However it will be like upscaling a DVD to 1080p. It will look better then your average DVD run at 480p, but of course it will never touch a true 30mbps 1080p blu-ray movie aka premium car

PS. If someone could tell me where the heck it has been stated exactly which car model is a standard one, and which one is a premium model that would be greatly appreciated. I read replies in this thread from people who claim to have seen the difference between premium and standard... but I've been on top of the GT5 news, and haven't really seen any clear indications to which models one can consider standard and which can be considered premium?

-Z

Dont know if you've seen this yet or not, but here is the difference between premium and standard from PD's mouth

http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247.html
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247p4.html

• Premium cars are far more detailed inside and out

• Premium cars have high and low beams, standard cars just have normal lights

• All cars, even standard cars have scratches, dents, dirt accumulation and can flip over, but only premium cars have dislodging and deformation of parts. Damage affects the performance of all cars

 

[bullie77]

You shouldn't consider the standard cars as being less than premium cars, rather, the premiums being more than standard.

What? So if the Standards aren't less than the Premiums, but the Premiums are more than the Standards, what would that make the Standards compare to the Premiums?!... "equalyless"

 

[Strittan]

What? So if the Standards aren't less than the Premiums, but the Premiums are more than the Standards, what would that make the Standards compare to the Premiums?!... "equalyless"

+1

I mean, WTF?

 

[Zembla]

What? So if the Standards aren't less than the Premiums, but the Premiums are more than the Standards, what would that make the Standards compare to the Premiums?!... "equalyless"

I said "think of". I didn't say they weren't. It's just a matter of perception. To put it differently, a lot people seem to think Premium should in fact be Standard. Meaning, in their mind there are 800 "El crappo" cars and 200 "Standard" cars. Whereas in reality there are 200 Premium cars and 800 Standard cars.

Glass half full / glass half empty kind of thing.

@Earth:

Yeah, I've seen those. But there's no real indication is there? As in a before and after pic, or whatever. There's no image to show the differences in detail.

-Z

 

[Nero9]

Oh c'mon if you guys keep on complaining they'll just use GT2 models!

 

[kingcars]

PS. If someone could tell me where the heck it has been stated exactly which car model is a standard one, and which one is a premium model that would be greatly appreciated. I read replies in this thread from people who claim to have seen the difference between premium and standard... but I've been on top of the GT5 news, and haven't really seen any clear indications to which models one can consider standard and which can be considered premium?

-Z

The difference is very easy to spot.

Premium:

Standard:

The windows being the biggest indicator, but also look at the big difference in detail in the headlights. And just the overall model quality is noticeably different.

 

[RedSuinit]

The difference is very easy to spot.

Premium:

Standard:

The windows being the biggest indicator, but also look at the big difference in detail in the headlights. And just the overall model quality is noticeably different.

HAHAHAHA!

What a terrible comparison. An official screen-shot that was taken in 18 MEGA-PIXELS, compared to a crappy screen cap from a bad video.