Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

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What would you have rather had PD do about "premium" vs. "standard" cars

  • Keep everthing the same

    Votes: 324 19.1%
  • Release the game later with all the cars "premium"

    Votes: 213 12.6%
  • Not do "premium" cars at all but focus on other features i.e. dynamic weather

    Votes: 134 7.9%
  • DLC packs after the release

    Votes: 844 49.8%
  • Wished PD didn't get are hopes up, lol

    Votes: 180 10.6%

  • Total voters
    1,695
I like what you're trying to do there so I'll say this then. Some of what PD has left out of this release will cost them market share to T10 that they'll likely never get back.

In this market of next generation consoles, gamers want customization. With this release of GT we have taken an already low point in GT and now gone backwards by removing it all together. It truly is as if PD live in a bubble, they must to miss on what the Forza community is up to. First of all T10 directly interacts with their base on at least a weekly basis. They have a striving community of members on their official forum, post blogs, and share real life photos. Members share screenshots, compete in competitions, and have successfully turned an official game site into an actual online community. I won't even get into how T10 has captured the casual gamers.. In the end market is being given up to T10 with every release they get out before PD. Even with a misstep like FM3, the base got a new title.. A simple update or not it still gave new life to the series.. Funny enough when I was writing FM3 off as an update here we are and GT5 is starting to look like a 5yr in the making update.

You do know the premiums can be customize right?
 
You do know how little variety there is in premium cars right?

Now your arguing another point, who cares there is 200 + cars. Most people will probably drive around 60 cars. They are the best cars any console has to offer. Before making your final judgment on how PD messed up i think you should at least play the game, or watch a video with customization with a premium car.
 
Now your arguing another point, who cares there is 200 + cars. Most people will probably drive around 60 cars. They are the best cars any console has to offer. Before making your final judgment on how PD messed up i think you should at least play the game, or watch a video with customization with a premium car.

I think GT5's premium list is pretty good, it is lacking in some quantity and some very popular contemporary cars (MC12, Koenigseggs, Gumperts, Porsches).
 
I truly hate M$ and have a dislike for T10 as I think they're money hungry vultures BUT they have their finger on what the majority of console gamers wants IMO.. I look at the amount of interaction they have with their community and I'm envious.. The weekly blogs.. rl photos from car shows.. etc etc.. It's really great. They're taking casual gamers and giving them a taste of SIM racing...
You might take another look at this "relationship." ;)

The fans grouse about the numerous problems with Forza, some of which never get addressed or fixed, the mods become increasingly heavy-handed in closing threads and swinging the ban hammer, people get defensive, stop "interacting" or leave...

Just look at how many posters here give everyone fits, not just the mods. Imagine if someone from Polyphony was here - or heck, even SCEA. They would feel like lightning rods in a hurricane! They would get harassed every day. Jordan would have to hire more mods just to read posts. And keep in mind that a few boards will only allow posts to go up after a mod reads them over, and even then, some are unpleasant. You couldn't pay me enough to deal with some of these members. Well... you could, but my price would be high. ;)

It may make Polyphony seem aloof and disconnected, but everyone who's been here any time at all knows that they're well aware of the many views we have. They know what we like, what we want, and what we don't. As long as there is a connection of sorts, an avenue where our desires and ideas can be read, it shouldn't really matter whether they're here to be the punching bags of thousands of brats.
 
Definitely. And after a few tries I would stick to the same 10-15 cars, maximum.

Exactly i know I prob will have around 50 cars, I really think people just like to moan, when I played the GT5 demo I did not car about anything but driving it was so addictive.
 
60?? I couldn't even reach 30. I would stick to the same 10-15 cars.
Yes and we can actually listed them:

1.- Ferrari Enzo
2.- Ferrari F12007/F10
3.- Ferrari 458 Italia
4.- Mercedes SLS
5.- Mercedes C 63 AMG
6.- Lamborghini Gallardo
7.- Lamborghini Diablo
8.- Red Bull X1 Proto
9.- Jeff Gordon NASCAR
10.- Nissan GT-R
11.- Lexus LF-A
12.- Chevrolet Camaro
13.- Subaru Impreza WRC
14.- Audi R8
15.- Their real car or any variation of their real car (SEAT ibiza cupra in my case)

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Imagine what a game this would be with 200 million dollars, 500 3D modelers, all cars premium, all tracks with weather and time. too much to handle you guys, so you see we should be glad we have standard cars and tracks because if this were true too many people would have committed suicide every time it got delayed. Be grateful you guys..
 
I like everyone keeps forgetting to put the numbers up..
Oh sorry. About 220 = more than enough to keep even you happy.

Everything from Ferrari's and Lamborghini's to Chevy's and Ford's, from NASCAR cars and rally cars to Go-Karts and Super GT race cars, from classics to brand new, from Honda's and Toyota's to BMW's and Mercedes's, from the McLaren F1 to the Suzuki Cappuccino and the list goes on and on. Not enough variety in my ***.
 
Now your arguing another point, who cares there is 200 + cars. Most people will probably drive around 60 cars. They are the best cars any console has to offer. Before making your final judgment on how PD messed up i think you should at least play the game, or watch a video with customization with a premium car.

While that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, kindly allow me mine. Personally most of the premium cars at launch don't interest me.. We can all agree everyone likes super cars but my heroes are missing.. even normal cars I enjoy are missing.. Further, DLC isn't going to be our savior. PD resources will be put towards GT6 and premium vehicles were taking 6 months each. Who knows how long it will take with limited resources.. I'd rather not even think of what would happen if PD tried to charge for DLC cars already on disc.

I'm personally unfortunately more drawn to the T10 lineup of cars in FM3.. I'm not going to pass on GT5 but I did downgrade me CE to an SE copy.


You might take another look at this "relationship." ;)

I've taken a very good look at it and I know what it takes to run an official gaming forum. T10 is doing great at it, while all those things you listed are true.. it's about the big picture. Console racing fans are very picky and opinionated and I think T10 has found a balance when it comes to interaction in comparison to PD.
 
Oh sorry. About 220 = more than enough to keep even you happy.

Everything from Ferrari's and Lamborghini's to Chevy's and Ford's, from NASCAR cars and rally cars to Go-Karts and Super GT race cars, from classics to brand new, from Honda's and Toyota's to BMW's and Mercedes's, from the McLaren F1 to the Suzuki Cappuccino and the list goes on and on. Not enough variety in my ***.
Not enough! They all want the Audi S5:sly: because it iz fast3rrr
 
Oh sorry. About 220 = more than enough to keep even you happy.

Everything from Ferrari's and Lamborghini's to Chevy's and Ford's, from NASCAR cars and rally cars to Go-Karts and Super GT race cars, from classics to brand new, from Honda's and Toyota's to BMW's and Mercedes's, from the McLaren F1 to the Suzuki Cappuccino and the list goes on and on. Not enough variety in my ***.

And from that Variety I just complain about not Daihatsu Midget as premium (I am not kidding, I really was looking forward for drive that car in the cockpit view :indiff:)
 
Not enough! They all want the Audi S5:sly: because it iz fast3rrr

lol when audi comes out and says it is the most beautiful car they've created, then you should maybe consider putting it in. Instead of lets say I donno a VW bus.

Either way none of our bitching and moaning is gonna change anything. Lets just hope the rest of the cars are fun to drive and we wont get bored fast just because the cars we were looking forward to driving in the game didnt make it
 
Classic kids debate. "Mine is bigger gne gne gne"

Oh by the way.....you drove and regularly used all of them, right?

Well spoken I can see.. It's about casting a large net, not specifics. I'm not speaking for myself, I'm speaking for the big picture.

Oh sorry. About 220 = more than enough to keep even you happy.

Everything from Ferrari's and Lamborghini's to Chevy's and Ford's, from NASCAR cars and rally cars to Go-Karts and Super GT race cars, from classics to brand new, from Honda's and Toyota's to BMW's and Mercedes's, from the McLaren F1 to the Suzuki Cappuccino and the list goes on and on. Not enough variety in my ***.

Real numbers not marketing.. No dupes please. Regardless it comes down to personal opinion.. The real question is how many of these cars does one persona even have interest in. PD is casting a smaller net, hence then will please fewer people. You can't play both sides and quote large numbers then ask about utilizing them all. :dunce:

I'll save my comment on the marketing as general speaking is too easily deconstructed.
 
lol when audi comes out and says it is the most beautiful car they've created, then you should maybe consider putting it in. Instead of lets say I donno a VW bus.

Either way none of our bitching and moaning is gonna change anything. Lets just hope the rest of the cars are fun to drive and we wont get bored fast just because the cars we were looking forward to driving in the game didnt make it

Wel You know, maybe the VW Bus (or "combi " hos it was called here in Mexico) is an historic and iconic car, is a car than is part of the world automotive history, Yes is not faster as the Audi S5, but is the kind of car than you enjoy driving (even in real life) because bring you feelings and memories, the VW Bus is far away from any mode, every person in the world recognize, and thats something than the S5 hasn't reached yet ;)
 
Classic kids debate. "Mine is bigger gne gne gne"

Oh by the way.....you drove and regularly used all of them, right?

This argument of "you'll only drive xx of them" is rather moot since you'll only drive the cars you have access to, are limited to. So from the current line up I might like 15 cars but a different line up might have 30 cars I want to drive regularly. So seeing 60 cars you'll drive doesn't mean others see the same number. You're content, others aren't.
 
You might take another look at this "relationship." ;)

The fans grouse about the numerous problems with Forza, some of which never get addressed or fixed, the mods become increasingly heavy-handed in closing threads and swinging the ban hammer, people get defensive, stop "interacting" or leave...

Umm, so? Its an official forum, I haven't been on too many official forums where you can slag off at the product in question and not have it deleted. Its better than not having an official forum at all.

There's heaps of things in almost every game that has flaws and bugs and problems which the devs dont fix. Welcome to the real world. At least the official forum commonly frequented by the dev team shows that if you have a problem, the devs have read about it. Whether or not they fix it is another matter, there's heaps of games with heaps of problems that the devs know about and haven't fixed. If you then start slagging off at the game because of it, expect it to be locked and deleted, why would the official site want that sort of stuff said about their game on their forum.
 
Wel You know, maybe the VW Bus (or "combi " hos it was called here in Mexico) is an historic and iconic car, is a car than is part of the world automotive history, Yes is not faster as the Audi S5, but is the kind of car than you enjoy driving (even in real life) because bring you feelings and memories, the VW Bus is far away from any mode, every person in the world recognize, and thats something than the S5 hasn't reached yet ;)

Ya but is a VW bus something you would want to race in a video game? I feel like it does all those things in real life, but in a video game its just useless. Majority of people will drive it a few times and never touch it again. An S5 on the other hand. oh boy
 
Ya but is a VW bus something you would want to race in a video game? I feel like it does all those things in real life, but in a video game its just useless. Majority of people will drive it a few times and never touch it again. An S5 on the other hand. oh boy

Ya, I mean sure you might have a few hardcore car nuts who fall in love with the bus, but 99% of the people would hate the idea of driving one.
 
This argument of "you'll only drive xx of them" is rather moot since you'll only drive the cars you have access to, are limited to. So from the current line up I might like 15 cars but a different line up might have 30 cars I want to drive regularly. So seeing 60 cars you'll drive doesn't mean others see the same number. You're content, others aren't.

Exactly, well said. 👍 I think some forum users think they can actually force their will on others..


Well I guess they just have to keep their money for something else.

This is an example of big picture https://www.gtplanet.net/gt5-sales-increase-1300-on-amazon-after-release-date-announcement/

You're clearly not going to get it.
 
Ya but is a VW bus something you would want to race in a video game? I feel like it does all those things in real life, but in a video game its just useless. Majority of people will drive it a few times and never touch it again. An S5 on the other hand. oh boy

HELL YEAH! Imagine setting up a 16 player race on one of the shorter tracks, and just going at it! I think it would be great fun to just have a fun run race with those puppies. Or the Schwessorwagons (or however it's spelled).
 
HELL YEAH! Imagine setting up a 16 player race on one of the shorter tracks, and just going at it! I think it would be great fun to just have a fun run race with those puppies. Or the Schwessorwagons (or however it's spelled).
Or the Fiat 500 on Tokyo with 11 opponents and possible rollover. Better watch out :D
 
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