Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

[Killinator]

You were complaining that if just the cars from GT4 were brought over you would be miffed , my point is if there was just 170 standard cars you would have a good reason to be miffed.

Ya but you could it that case say if only 1 car was brought over I'd be miffed, it stands to reason, theres always a worser case scenario.

Anyway seen as your in the same country as myself, I can argue with an Irish person anytime, the internets is for arguing with people from other countries

 

[steve30x]

Ya but you could it that case say if only 1 car was brought over I'd be miffed, it stands to reason, theres always a worser case scenario.

Anyway seen as your in the same country as myself, I can argue with an Irish person anytime, the internets is for arguing with people from other countries

Your not far away from me either. Im in dungarvan co. waterford.

 

[Killinator]

Your not far away from me either. Im in dungarvan co. waterford.

Sure your never far away from anyone in this country
Do you reckon we'll be pushed back to the 26th(a Friday), judging by the general discussion thread its likely.

 

[steve30x]

Sure your never far away from anyone in this country
Do you reckon we'll be pushed back to the 26th(a Friday), judging by the general discussion thread its likely.

I doubt it. I know somebody working in gamestop, Im hoping if I bribe him he might give me my game early lol.

 

[Killinator]

I doubt it. I know somebody working in gamestop, Im hoping if I bribe him he might give me my game early lol.

I work in HMV and our date hasn't changed from the 24th, but given the last release date changed to match the nearest friday and Germany and FSweeden appear to be going to the 26th we may have to wait a whole 2 days extra.................in which case PD can stuff it........or not.

On topic: I really hope that at least the standards drive with the new physics engine, I just have a horrible(unfounded) feeling they wont be as realistic to drive as the premiums.

 

[JDMKING13]

RDK says he does not have the final version of GT5, this can be a big reason why damage is not fully seen yet. 👍

 

[steve30x]

I work in HMV and our date hasn't changed from the 24th, but given the last release date changed to match the nearest friday and Germany and FSweeden appear to be going to the 26th we may have to wait a whole 2 days extra.................in which case PD can stuff it........or not.

On topic: I really hope that at least the standards drive with the new physics engine, I just have a horrible(unfounded) feeling they wont be as realistic to drive as the premiums.

Ill kiss your *** if you give me a copy of the game early lol. I know the games shops get the games at least a few days earlier than the release date.

 

[Rdp616]

RDK says he does not have the final version of GT5, this can be a big reason why damage is not fully seen yet. 👍

Maybe this has alot to do with some other features too. Does ANYONE have the FULL game?

 

[Rdp616]

Ill kiss your *** if you give me a copy of the game early lol. I know the games shops get the games at least a few days earlier than the release date.

I know here in America, well where i live anyway. Gamestop get's the games the day of the release, not a day sooner. I've gotten to know the guy's who work at mine, and when F1 2010 came out i asked if it was possible to get it any earlier. They said no, they get a truck the morning a game comes out.

 

[JDMKING13]

I know here in America, well where i live anyway. Gamestop get's the games the day of the release, not a day sooner. I've gotten to know the guy's who work at mine, and when F1 2010 came out i asked if it was possible to get it any earlier. They said no, they get a truck the morning a game comes out.

So can you explain to me why i am getting the game at 12 am?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I know here in America, well where i live anyway. Gamestop get's the games the day of the release, not a day sooner. I've gotten to know the guy's who work at mine, and when F1 2010 came out i asked if it was possible to get it any earlier. They said no, they get a truck the morning a game comes out.

Generally true; I know that was the case for GT3 for my town (the truck actually didn't arrive until about 1pm). For games that are going to be having a midnight release though, like JDM mentioned, sort of have to arrive earlier .

 

[Foxiol]

I think that the game when we put it inside our PS3,the game will be updated with some things that not has.It happens with a lot of games. And then of course we have to wait the installation of the 10 Gb...3 hours later...haha...for sure.

 

[Rdp616]

So can you explain to me why i am getting the game at 12 am?

Im hoping they have a midnight for GT5. i was just talking about games like F1 2010 that aren't as popular. Tho they'll probably get it that afternoon.

 

[Tornado]

No, SONY pushed it on them.

That's a silly assumption to make.
There have been at least half-a-dozen entries from big name Sony 1st/2nd party franchises on the PSP since the Tourist Trophy came out. Out of those 6 or so games, 0% of them were developed by the normal developers of entries in those franchises. Ready at Dawn made the PSP God of War games and one of the Jak and Daxter games. High Impact Games made the PSP Ratchet and Clank games and the other Jak and Daxter game. The only exception is Killzone Liberation, which was under development at a time when Guerilla Games probably weren't actually working on anything else anyways.

Now, explain to me why Sony would force PD to drop development of a game they had sunk $60 million into to go work on a decontented port of GT4. And further explain to me why they would only decide to make such a decision with one game on the system, compared to all of the other properties they owned where they instead farmed out development to unknown-but-talented indie studios.



What is far more likely is that Sony wanted a Gran Turismo game ready in time for the PSP Go launch, and Kaz absolutely refused to allow anyone but PD to work on it. In fact, he basically said exactly that in an interview around the time the game came out. That doesn't mean Sony is blameless, of course, but Sony sure as hell didn't "force" PD to do anything at all in regards to GTPSP. In fact, they probably very much actively wanted Kaz to stay away from it and work on GT5 instead.

 

[Killinator]

Ill kiss your *** if you give me a copy of the game early lol. I know the games shops get the games at least a few days earlier than the release date.

I wish, I can't even get an early copy,
The store sticks to a very strict release day policy regardless of other retailers do, but we do get them into the store about a week early(for big games anyway).

 

[Luminis]

What is far more likely is that Sony wanted a Gran Turismo game ready in time for the PSP Go launch, and Kaz absolutely refused to allow anyone but PD to work on it. In fact, he basically said exactly that in an interview around the time the game came out. That doesn't mean Sony is blameless, of course, but Sony sure as hell didn't "force" PD to do anything at all in regards to GTPSP. In fact, they probably very much actively wanted Kaz to stay away from it and work on GT5 instead.

Now this sounds interesting. If that's true, the whole 'OMG, Kaz fell prey to SONY' argument would be utterly meaningless... But then again, he is the vice president of SONY anyways, seems kinda hard for SONY to force something on its vice president.

 

[steve30x]

I wish, I can't even get an early copy,
The store sticks to a very strict release day policy regardless of other retailers do, but we do get them into the store about a week early(for big games anyway).

I know games shops get some games a week early. The guy I know he first worked in Xtravision but he now works in gamestop. He told me a lot of games are in storage a week before release. He also told me how bad Xtravision is with broken consoles (how they just leave them sit in the store for months before returning them)

 

[Owen.C93]

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RDK says he does not have the final version of GT5, this can be a big reason why damage is not fully seen yet. 👍[/QUOTE]

He said he [B][U]thinks[/U][/B] it might not be final because of that message.

 

[toMsonsLLC]

He said he thinks it might not be final because of that message.

Don't put your hope into that, you might be hugely disappointed.

 

[MaruchanSoup]

Seeing the damage of the best buy demos, compared to the damage of the "full game"

there is still hope!

 

[eSZee]

RDK says he does not have the final version of GT5, this can be a big reason why damage is not fully seen yet. 👍

Where does he say those words?

 

[JDMKING13]

Im sorry he said he might not have the final version.

 

[CarreraGT]

There needs to be an option 6) delete 75% of the standard cars and give us 400 premiums that people will actually want to drive

 

[TheROADKRAKEN]

With a game as expansive as GT5, I think just 200 cars would suffice if they were properly varied.

 

[Misterious-G]

look at an other race game, they have around 150 cars (or a bit more) in a game (Midnight Club, NFS, Forza), GT5 has 200 premiums, still more then the other games and next that, they have like 800+ more cars in it, how you still can complain about this. im glad they did this.

 

[radiofrog]

look at an other race game, they have around 150 cars (or a bit more)

Forza was released with over 400 and now has over 500, that's more than "a bit more."
However, I agree that 200 can suffice in the short term if well varied, and the premium list looks pretty good. Sure, it has some holes, but I'm kinda counting on DLC to fill them eventually.

 

[Peter]

Like I said, there is now way we're all gonna drive all 1000 of the cars in GT5. Some of us won't even go over 100. So people saying scrap standards which they probably won't drive ,for more premiums which, they probably won't drive either.

 

[Misterious-G]

Forza was released with over 400 and now has over 500, that's more than "a bit more."
However, I agree that 200 can suffice in the short term if well varied, and the premium list looks pretty good. Sure, it has some holes, but I'm kinda counting on DLC to fill them eventually.

ooh, i take the Forza thing back

 

[analog]

Like I said, there is now way we're all gonna drive all 1000 of the cars in GT5. Some of us won't even go over 100. So people saying scrap standards which they probably won't drive ,for more premiums which, they probably won't drive either.

That's not the point, I actually drove and owned at least one example of each car in GT4 and yes I drove most of the ones which weren't duplicates regularly (some ofcourse far more than others) as I appreciated and made use of the variety on offer depending on which "phase" I was going through, ofcourse not using several hundred cars in one day but over a long period of time.
And even when people only use, say a 100 cars, it would be nice to select them purely on the basis of the actual car, not whether they are Premium or not which is a criteria I know I'm going to use as I love cockpit view.

I know that if GT5 hypothetically consisted of a 1000 Premium cars only, I would collect all of them, and drive all of them at least several times depending on my preference and would treat them like I did in GT4 (whereby I didn't have to worry about lack of features as all cars were modelled the same).
My priority now lies with collecting and driving the Premium cars first and the pre-defined selection of cars it consists of (as for me these are the true GT5 cars).

Thing is, some of my favourite cars in GT4 like for example the Lotus Carlton and Elan, Jensen Interceptor, Lancia Stratos, most Ruf cars and the Alpine-Renaults (and the list goes on and on) aren't going to be driven as much (or at all) as Premium cars offer a new gameplay element (cockpit view) which they don't.
Still love those cars (as in their real life counterparts) but they don't cut the mustard anymore since they lack features I grew accustomed to playing Prologue.
Even if I were limiting myself to only a 100 cars I drove regularly, I'd rather select them based on my personal preference, not on whether they posses or lack certain key features.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I have been trying so hard to be optimistic about this standard vs premium but its really killing me. The standard models are just way too standard. They are basically GT4 cars but worse. At least in GT4 we could change wheels. So now in GT5 we cant change the wheels and we dont even get a cockpit view in those standard cars. Which means you cant change wheels, or have an interior cockpit view, or damage on 80% of the cars. I got hooked on the inside driving view in other games and now I cant even use it on 80% of the cars in GT5. 👎

For those that dont realize, there are only about 220 cars that are premium. So if your favorite cars are not premium, you cant change wheels, no inside cockpit view, and no damage. So there are pretty high chances that none of your favorite cars are premium at all.