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I'm sorry but I won't be able to join todays event , it's a bit to late cause I have to get up way to early tomorrow !
I hope you all have some great races today :gtpflag:
 
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Well, that was quite a night...
1st race, it was a bit dark, because of the overcast weather (I promise it would have looked nice if we had a nice blue sky!) so sorry for those with tired eyes.
And the 3rd race was full of drama, some of which is due to me, and I'm not proud of it. :grumpy::nervous:

So let me explain why the results are as shown for race 3 (as Sparkz finished 2nd ahead of Cjr and I finished 5th ahead of John).

In lap 1, the 1st corner, Captain Disaster was quite right to be "mildly annoyed". Sparkz clipped him (which may happen!) but completely forgot to wait for him. I checked the replay and it was impossible to miss that as you were looking at his left door... I also checked if you had been pushed by someone else towards Captain Disaster but you weren't. And then you bumped quite badly in Cjr in the next corner, because he took the corner a lot slower than you (which was his right), but at least it didn't appear to cause him too much trouble.
In the end, it's the fact that you didn't try to make amend that gave you that 'DQF'. Without having calculated anything in advance, it turns out quite fair as it allows Captain Disaster to finish the night 1 point ahead of you. :cheers:
No hard feelings, though, please, as these things happen and next week we will all have forgotten about it... or most of us... :rolleyes:

At the end of lap 1, there was some banging between Cjr and Jake but I believe that was due to some lagging, from what I could observe from the replay. So nothing to report here.

Then in lap 3, I was coming in quite fast behind Ade in the 1st corner. I tried to squeeze in the inside, somehow hoping that Ade would keep more on the outside but that was a very bad decision as he followed his line (which was his right) and we ended up on the same bit of road at the same time. I got pretty much the same view of Ade's car that Sparkz had of Captain Disaster's car and was going :banghead:... I waited for him, and waited... :ill: and then realised he rage quit found something else to do... :odd:
Never mind, to show the others that I'm willing to be punished when I deserve it, I decided to push myself behind the other 2 non-penalised finishers, even though I had fought my way back past them. After all, I had been far too careless trying to get past Ade in that spot and I ruined the race for both of us. Apologies, sir.

Weescotman also rage quit, evidently, so he won't be getting any points either... :ouch:
By the way, thanks Captain, for carrying on despite the 1st lap drama.

I am hoping to be fair in this, and I'm also hoping not to have to punish anyone (including myself) too often. :rolleyes:

I still hope you enjoyed your races (overall...) and that you'll come back. :)
This car is really fun to drive and I'm hoping to choose good cars for the events to come!
... And well done to those who didn't get involved in any accidents... :D
 
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Was a bit annoyed. Great 1st race, really enjoyed it with a super battle with Capt_D. Second race, kinda got wrestled a bit and spun. Third race, got clipped by Warrius and spun. I liked the car, proved that in race 1, but it was a bit too argy bargy for me tonight. Also it was my daughters birthday, so for me to race tonight I had to jump through some family hoops. Cost me a Chinese takeaway. After the race 3 incident, I decided to retire. Im no rage quitter, but felt that it fell away a bit after race 1. I wont be available for the next race, as Sunday Cup starts next week, so maybe catch you all in a few weeks.
 
Rome was a bit claustrophobic. :eek: It was kind of scary when all the cars were bunched up heading to the entrance to the corridor chicane. :scared: I think that stretch between T1 & the corridor many accidents happened on the cobblestone. :ill: Early in the race, I was boxed in, and found it very difficult to be cautious with so many cars between the walls slipping around. :lol: I apologize if I was smoking the tires & getting loose, it was kind of tense. :nervous: :guilty:


That said, cjr3559 had a fabulously close race with no incidents on High Speed Ring. It was exciting. :cheers:
I was able to hold him off several laps, but then I made a mistake :ouch: and I was never able to gain the position again. That's the breaks! Well done cj!

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And can't forget.. me & John had a good race on Nurb gpd. 👍
It was difficult to try and make up for getting off the grid w/ the penalty.
:dunce:
For some reason I got totally confused. I was holding down the horn. :boggled:
 
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So let me explain why the results are as shown for race 3 (as Sparkz finished 2nd ahead of Cjr and I finished 5th ahead of John).

And then you bumped quite badly in Cjr in the next corner, because he took the corner a lot slower than you (which was his right), but at least it didn't appear to cause him too much trouble.

At the end of lap 1, there was some banging between Cjr and Jake but I believe that was due to some lagging, from what I could observe from the replay. So nothing to report here.
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Just when I thought I won race 3! :indiff:

Not seeing the other drivers is disturbing though. I think there hasn't been a time where I've seen the entire field.

Nevertheless, I had a good battle with Watermelon in race three thinking we were going for the win. :cool:
 
I think we were battling for 3rd in the race... at least at first. (Bit confused about the whole thing myself, but doesn't matter.)

Anyhow so your race was more exciting than mine! :lol:

Anyway, I know that in one race - can't remember which - but Sparkz & somebody else (maybe you cj) couldn't see each other, and twice I saw the cars pass through each other :eek: and a big poof of smoke the 2nd time!
It distracted me so much to look up to the left watching this... that I didn't realize that someone was on the right side of me alongside... and then they had to beep because I nearly moved into them! (I don't remember who that was either.)


That also happened in the VCRC race on Sunday to me.... I was being hotly stalked by 2 drivers that I KNEW could not see each other... because in my rear view, they were smooshed into each other side-by-side... the cars nearly melded. :odd:
And then I had one in front of me & the other behind... and I knew that they each thought they were battling just me... but I was dealing with both of them - and in the dark and wet!! :eek:
 
TBH... the way Spark overtook me in the first race was a bit dirty... but i don't want him to get penalised for it, as he has very good pace, speed, but he has to work on being cleaner on overtakes... for ex: i would have gotten past warrius much quicker than i did if id just took a normal racing line and forced my way, but that's not sportsmanship... I make mistakes and hit people too sometimes in races, i just have to pay the consequences i.e. wait...
ROME:
  • When i hit warrius in the final 2 corners getting him sideways, had to slow down for him to regain speed
  • Then he pulled an AI cornering technique in the chicane (mid corner braking) haha
  • Loved the defending from warrius, had a nice overall clean fight with him
  • Had a bit of a dive into the wall at the chicane as somebody pushed me wide :( maybe they didn't see me
HS RING:
  • Was on the inside of sparks and he went to pass from outside and we touched mid corner, at the time wasn't sure if it was my fault (still not sure tbh), so i waited for him to catch up again.
N RING:
  • Here Sparkz had great pace and i was able to match it, but he got through the field quickly (even passed me with that bump grrrr and saw him bump someone else as well not sure who) Spent the whole race pushing to the edge gaining 1-3 tenths a lap from the 3 sec gap there was, at the last lap it was les than one second when i made a mistake and overcooked a corner spinning out, thankfully not losing 2nd place as i was quick to recover ntm we had built a gap over the others
  • Also had a good start off the start line, but slowing down as i tought warrius was going to stop the race as he was dead slow at the start... dunno what happened there.... think i wasn't the only one that wasn't sure there
Please make the effort Sparkz, as we are in this league to have fun, and there is no fun in overly aggressive driving (careless) just to get to the front quickly, that's why the races are 10+ laps... so the race has a chance to pan out, not being just a sprint.
And for the others, please don't rage quit, you learn nothing from rage quitting, whereas if you keep on going you might learn better racing lines or techniques whilst pushing harder to get back to where u deserve to be :)
 
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@watermelonpunch

Sorry if we came together at High Speed Ring in the corner before the bridge. I was being overly cautious not to interfere with the leaders, took the corner wide and may have pinched you off a little. Sometimes collisions occur even when you're being careful. :guilty:

I really like the Dino, just wish I had more time to practice with it. I admit I've been busy with the NSX Seasonal at Ascari. :)
 
I don't even remember this.
I'm always cautious in the corner before the bridge :nervous: on HSR so I wouldn't blame you for being so.
I try to just concentrate on staying in one lane on this track, when in a group of cars, and not spinning out or causing a scene. :lol: :odd:
I had the most trouble with the turns between the bridge & tunnel.
But HSR seemed MUCH easier after Nurb GPD & Rome. :lol:
 
OK, I'll try to answer as many questions and comments as I can...

First, I may have to review race 2, then, since Ade says he's had some trouble in there as well and others confirmed afterwards.

That was the best race for me, having a perfect start and keeping out of trouble. I guess I got lucky that I never went through the chicane with more than one more car around me.
And Jake, indeed I was slow in that chicane but that's the best I could come up with, any faster and I was feeling the back end was going to make a pass on me... I was fairly happy, tho, because I still had some good pace everywhere else so I could manage good lap times. And don't worry about the bumps, they were inevitable and I knew it was because of me. I wasn't going that defensive, I was doing my best. :D
And when I went to the left and beeped my horn, I actually meant 'go on, then, you should be in front by now'. And then you beeped yours to say 'sorry' so I thought 'ok, then, let's carry on and fight it to the next corner...'. 👍

I did notice your really fair and patient driving and you alone reminded me of a forgotten feature of the first Zero Cup season: the "sportsmanship bonus", which was a 5 points bonus for remarkable sportsmanship behaviour, given to one person per race at most (but it would not always be given out). I probably will reintroduce it.
I really like the spirit behind this sentence: "i would have gotten past warrius much quicker than i did if id just took a normal racing line and forced my way, but that's not sportsmanship".
And I had forgotten about the bump in the final 2 corners so indeed, thanks for waiting because it evidently makes me forget about the whole incident... :cheers:
And yes, the Zero Cup is about battling it with the driver in front of you or behind you. It does not really matter where you end up. I prefer a close race fighting for 2nd to last rather than running away with the win, 10 seconds in front. For that there is the A-Spec...

At the Nurb, indeed I had a really bad start. I somehow managed to start in 3rd gear... :ouch: I was trying to send a message but then realised I was NEVER going to have time for that. Sorry for the confusion it caused (I didn't think of it). Expect this kind of thing to happen, though, because there will be times when people will do a jump start. Or mistake the horn for the brakes :D. Or start in 3rd gear... :lol: (yep @watermelonpunch, I don't know which is worse! :P)

And I was having a LOT of trouble trying to keep @weescotman and @drandiiski behind me. And sorry for the bump in the chicane, Weescotman, but you moved to the right, at the braking point, leaving me no room and I couldn't avoid rubbing metal. At least I was the one ending up in a spin...

And I'm sorry that so many people could still not see each other again. I knew about Sparkz who couldn't see Cjr (but found out too late) and guessed about Jake not being able to see Cjr but I assumed everyone else was fine as you guys said nothing. I forgot about it from race 2. Next time, before we start, I'll make sure you see each other and I'll ask people to leave and come back.

Cjr, am I remembering right? Was that you who said you were using a wifi connection and were going to switch? Have you done so? I'm not putting you on the spot but it seems you're usually involved when it comes to ghosts... :boggled: If I'm remembering wrong, forget about it...

Talking about Cjr, it looks like you and Watermelon had a lot of fun together.. And indeed you were fighting for 3rd place at High Speed Ring.

Watermelon, it was me beeping my horn at HSR! :) I saw you drifting slowly to the right and I was running out of track. But you made room for me and it was one of the good bits in that race. 👍


Overall, the Dino is a difficult car to race with when there are other people on the track... Mind you, I was struggling enough taming it with no one else on track (I kept spinning in practice so I was quite surprised to really spin it out of control once in the whole evening). Which is why I'm probably going to change the tires for next week.
 
Good racing last night, first time Id driven Dino online. Used offline though, was tricky at first, then got use to it.

What cars are you racing next Tuesday Warrius.
 
Aw man it sounded like you guys had great fun. I wish my ps3 didn't crap out at the moment because it sounds like I would've really enjoyed myself.
 

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