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Too late. Back to work. Hopefully good tomorrow.
GTP_WRS-Online : Academy/D-League Racing - Suspended Until GT7
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We're going to split up the academy group a bit for the instruction hour to make it less confusing with "voice traffic".
Mohit (gtp_gooners_17) and Bart (GTP_PASM) are going to set up the "B" lounge (GTP_3D3_B) and all D2/D3 drivers who wish to receive instruction should report to the "B" lounge between 18:00 GMT and 18:30 GMT.
Kevin (GTP_EDK) and Sjaak (GTP_SJaak) are going to provide instruction to D4/D5 drivers in the main lounge (GTP_3D3Racing). I will be hosting, but may be AFK (away from keyboard) due to some "family duties", but if I have a chance I'll also instruct in the main lounge.
In both lounges the instruction will primarily consist of 3-4 lap one-on-one drive alongs with each driver. The instructor/student ratio is pretty good this week so every driver who desires instruction should get at least a few laps. And you can also watch from the lobby as other drivers receive their instruction. Also, if you are not participating in a drive along you are welcome to stay on track and continue lapping/practicing.
All drivers will gather together in the main lounge by 18:45 GMT for final race preparation including a simulated formation lap and rolling start. Then rookie qualification will begin at 19:00 GMT followed by the feature race.
If you do not wish to receive instruction or can't make the instruction hour, but want to take part in the race please arrive in the main lounge by 18:45 GMT if possible so you can take part in the simulated start.
Good luck!
Mohit (gtp_gooners_17) and Bart (GTP_PASM) are going to set up the "B" lounge (GTP_3D3_B) and all D2/D3 drivers who wish to receive instruction should report to the "B" lounge between 18:00 GMT and 18:30 GMT.
Kevin (GTP_EDK) and Sjaak (GTP_SJaak) are going to provide instruction to D4/D5 drivers in the main lounge (GTP_3D3Racing). I will be hosting, but may be AFK (away from keyboard) due to some "family duties", but if I have a chance I'll also instruct in the main lounge.
In both lounges the instruction will primarily consist of 3-4 lap one-on-one drive alongs with each driver. The instructor/student ratio is pretty good this week so every driver who desires instruction should get at least a few laps. And you can also watch from the lobby as other drivers receive their instruction. Also, if you are not participating in a drive along you are welcome to stay on track and continue lapping/practicing.
All drivers will gather together in the main lounge by 18:45 GMT for final race preparation including a simulated formation lap and rolling start. Then rookie qualification will begin at 19:00 GMT followed by the feature race.
If you do not wish to receive instruction or can't make the instruction hour, but want to take part in the race please arrive in the main lounge by 18:45 GMT if possible so you can take part in the simulated start.
Good luck!
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Same here, bit late, but on my way 
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Here are the unofficial results from the rookie feature race today:
A couple things needs to happen for these to become official...
First, I didn't save the replay (
) so I need someone to give me Patrick's formation lap time so I can deduct that from his race time.
Second, I took a picture of the timing screen just before Patrick passed the start/finish to complete his race so I"m not 100% sure these best laps are correct as they don't include the last lap for anyone... the game switches you out of the timing screen when the first guy passes the line. If anyone has access to the replay, can you fast forward to the end and check those fast laps for me.
Finally, we have to review any reported incidents. We haven't gotten any and I don't know if there were any, but standard rules give all drivers 24 hours to report any incident. Send a PM to me or another OLR admin and we'll review the replay (or Sjaak will since he has the replay.
)
Thanks. See you next week. 👍
PS> I believe a few of the vets who watched the race are going to post notes and suggestions later so be sure to watch for that.
A couple things needs to happen for these to become official...
First, I didn't save the replay (
) so I need someone to give me Patrick's formation lap time so I can deduct that from his race time.Second, I took a picture of the timing screen just before Patrick passed the start/finish to complete his race so I"m not 100% sure these best laps are correct as they don't include the last lap for anyone... the game switches you out of the timing screen when the first guy passes the line. If anyone has access to the replay, can you fast forward to the end and check those fast laps for me.
Finally, we have to review any reported incidents. We haven't gotten any and I don't know if there were any, but standard rules give all drivers 24 hours to report any incident. Send a PM to me or another OLR admin and we'll review the replay (or Sjaak will since he has the replay.
)Thanks. See you next week. 👍
PS> I believe a few of the vets who watched the race are going to post notes and suggestions later so be sure to watch for that.
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Valid point, I did ask for permission, as I never ran in an online event. I wanted to get familiar with the rules, formation laps, and other things I knew nothing about. I thought this would be a good place to learn, instead of me wrecking a weekly WRS event with my ignorance. Was just trying to figure things out, before I enter an official race.
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- GTP_DDiamond
No offense, Patrick. Was just curious. I missed the post of Tim's.
The posted videos of race protocol and the rookie instruction hour, along with practicing with your fellow D1 and D2'ers is another great place to learn.
BTW, congrats on qualifying for D2!! Welcome to WRS!!!
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Development Racing League
Presents...
Mount Maserati
An Online Race based on GT5 Week 52 Time Trial
February 15, 2012
Maserati Gran Turismo S '08 @ Trial Mountain Circuit
Course & Car Settings
- Track: Trial Mountain Circuit
- Car: Maserati Gran Turismo S '08 (Recommended Garage)
- Tires: Sports Soft (S3's)[/COLOR]
- In Event Tuning Settings: R/A functions only
- Example Tunes: N/A
Event Settings
- Game Mode: Normal Race
- Laps: 14 (+1 formation lap)
- Start Type: Rolling Staggered Start
- Grid Order: Fastest First
- Boost: No
- Slipstream strength: Weak
- Penalty: Off
- Automatic Race Start Cycle: Disabled
- Race Finish Delay: Set to the Max 180 Seconds
- Grip Reduction: Low
- Mechanical Damage: Light
- Visible Damage: Off
- Tire Wear / Fuel Consumption: Off
Regulation Settings
- Car Restriction: See above
- Performance Points: NA
- Power: 433 HP (Stock)
- Weight: 1780 kg (Stock)
- Tire Restrictions: See above
- Skid Recovery Force Aid | Active Steering | ASM: Disabled
- ABS | TCS | Driving Line: Optional
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Tim, I'm just now getting around to reviewing my replay and the first thing that pops out is the pace is way too fast for the formation round....could be just me?.....positions are not slowing for positions behind that need to be ahead of them....I finally was able to get to my position very near the start line. The pace seemed over 62mph!???? I could be exact, lol.
EDIT: What incidents are you looking for....I'm a novice, lol.
EDIT: What incidents are you looking for....I'm a novice, lol.
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- GTP_b00gee60
Overall I think that was a fun race. I take time to remember this is the "rookie" league and mistakes will happen. All of us will get used to it. I raced WRS for some time and know most of the rules now. This is a process so I would encourage all to stay with it. It will get better.
Thanks to the instructors for doing this. I learn more EVERY time I participate. 👍
Thanks to the instructors for doing this. I learn more EVERY time I participate. 👍
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Yes, the pace lap was a little too fast, especially near the end. It's OK to go about 20% faster through the first sectors, but when in the last sector and especially approaching the last corner the speed needs to be 100 kph / 62 mph... sometime the last corner is tricky and with a big grid you need to slow a bit before and after the final grid to let everyone get back in their proper positions... there's a natural accordion effect around sharp corners. Then once the field has closed accelerate to the speed limit and try to be there and at a stable speed a good bit before the start/finish. There have been several D1 drivers that have messed up starts... it just takes some getting used to.
As far as incidents... we're not "looking for" any. All our races, including these academy races, follow the GTP OLR Rules. It's a good idea to read and review those rules.
The first commandment is "Contacts and collisions must be avoided at all costs.". But we're all human and make mistakes, so if a driver initiates contact and causes an incident he must make "contact concessions" which basically means waiting for the affected driver to get back on track and to give back any positions gained. If a driver does this (self-penalizes) they will not be penalized after the race, however if they do not the admins will apply a penalty or even DQ after the race if the incident is reports.
Of course, if a driver is continually smashing into people and waiting that will be addressed separately whether or not they self penalize... we're talking about random mistakes not a systematic habit of driving out of control which will not be tolerated regardless. We didn't see any of that by the way.
So if someone rams into you causing you to go wide and just keeps going as if nothing happened that's an incident you should report. We need to not only penalize the driver, but let them know that type of driving will not be tolerated in our races.
In the end we value good race craft and good sportsmanship over results. We're here for fun so if in doubt take a more conservative approach and allow yourself a margin of error when you are close to someone on track. Avoid contact and if you make a mistake make sure you don't benefit from your mistake. If you are unsure, error on the side of good sportsmanship and give back a position. You'll be well respected for doing so if it turns out it wasn't your fault.
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As I wrote on GT5, I had been taking some notes during the feature race of some of the rookies. I followed each for more than a lap. The following may be based on that particular lap, but can be constructive in improving more. In random order:
- GTP_GDS: There is room for improvement on your braking. Every braking zone you weren't using the full potential of the brakes. The big stops on this track, like for example the banked hairpin after the long back straight, starting to brake at 100% brake pressure. You should be able to brake a little later and gain time. Once you are starting to turn in, simultaniously feed out the brake pressure until you have the correct speed to make the corner.
- GTP_DDiamond: Exactly the same story as GTP_GDS
- GTP_StraffeStef: Looked very smooth and drove good lines. Nice throttle control as well. But as for the braking, the same story here as GTP_GDS.
- GTP_Tombstoneplt: I noticed that you weren't using the full width on the track, especially on the exit of the corner. Either you are braking too much and you arrive at the apex with not enough speed, or you are turning in too late. Try a more rounded arc around the corner. That allowes you to carry more speed through the corner and will potentially gain a lot of lap time for you
- GTP_Crozzlow: I noticed you were struggling with oversteer. It's not a bad thing to encounter, because you will learn how to catch it. But in race situations, smooth is fast. That is why you could work on throttle control. At the moment it seems more like an on/off switch (or are you on controller?). Stepping on the gas all at once can really disturb the balance of the car. Once you exceed rear grip, the car will immediatly step out on you and will be hard to catch. Try feeding it in, let it have some time to settle in when going from 0 to 100% pedal position.
- GTP_b00gee60: Similarly to Tombstoneplt, the full width of the track wasn't used on all corners, but this time on the entry of the corner. Also worth noting is that the last corner onto the back straight is very important in terms of lap time, so in the series of corners leading up to the corner into the back straight you need to aim to place your car the furthest to the right before turning in. That means that you may have to sacrifice some speed through the corner before to get there.
- All the other drivers I either didn't have enough time to give a good assessment or were already driving very respectably 👍
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I spoke to him about it in 3D3_B. He is a DS3 user.
Crozzlow, do you use X and square or R2 and L2? The second option is much better because you can modulate the brake and accelerator. I too started with a DS3, and with X and square. The switch takes a few days to get used to but you come out the other side a lot faster. The hardest part is making the decision to switch, but well worth it.
Also use analog for directions, not the D-pad buttons.
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The OP, registration post and details post have been updated for the next event: March 9 : Fuji(Nissan) GT(-R). Registration is now open for rookies, vets, instructors.
Also note that we've added two week day practice time slots (optional of course) in the details post:
The main lounge will be reserved for the academy during these times for 90 minutes (parity racing practice will follow at 21:00 GMT -- if there is a parity event on the following weekend). Whether the lounge is actually populated or not is up to you! Rookies are welcome to set up the rooms during these times -- not just admins or vets. Of course you're welcome to set up the lounge anytime if it's not already being used, but we've designated these "official" times to help spur activity.
If vets are available and willing we can include some instruction during these time slots, but the main goal will be to gather in the lounge for free run laps and a few short test races in the days before the official race. Vets can also use this time to work out the proper handicap on their cars for the sprint races.
Note that rookies are also welcome to the Tuesday "veteran" practice sessions, but note that the lounge during those sessions will be set up according to the Wednesday race specs (tire wear / fuel consumption on, real grip reduction, etc). We'll generally be using the same car/track combo so it's really not that different and all practice helps.
Also note that we've added two week day practice time slots (optional of course) in the details post:
The main lounge will be reserved for the academy during these times for 90 minutes (parity racing practice will follow at 21:00 GMT -- if there is a parity event on the following weekend). Whether the lounge is actually populated or not is up to you! Rookies are welcome to set up the rooms during these times -- not just admins or vets. Of course you're welcome to set up the lounge anytime if it's not already being used, but we've designated these "official" times to help spur activity.
If vets are available and willing we can include some instruction during these time slots, but the main goal will be to gather in the lounge for free run laps and a few short test races in the days before the official race. Vets can also use this time to work out the proper handicap on their cars for the sprint races.
Note that rookies are also welcome to the Tuesday "veteran" practice sessions, but note that the lounge during those sessions will be set up according to the Wednesday race specs (tire wear / fuel consumption on, real grip reduction, etc). We'll generally be using the same car/track combo so it's really not that different and all practice helps.
